Why do Neo-Nazis exist?

[Ursakov]

But only the first picture is sexy.

The second one appears to be a child, so that may be intended.

Of course, this is the internet...

They're way hotter on men.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

The second one appears to be a child, so that may be intended.

Of course, this is the internet...

They're way hotter on men.

"I see German Soldiers dancing through France...played by chorus boys in really tight pants..."

[The Germania Alliance]

Nazism... Was a political party. Now the hatred that stems from Nazism -- that's an ideology.

While most Neo Nazis are racist and are often times violent, there are Neo Nazis who are also tolerant of other races and religions, and simply wish to identify with Neo Nazism peacefully. This is rare, however, and there are few popular groups that can truly claim to be tolerant.

There are more tolerant skinheads in general than Neo Nazis, however. Some people want to identify with Nazis, even peacefully, because let's face it; the Nazi party did great things when it wasn't committing genocide and invading innocent countries.

Regardless, even with the greatest of intents, labeling yourself a Neo Nazi isn't something to be proud of.

[Coccygia]

While most Neo Nazis are racist and are often times violent, there are Neo Nazis who are also tolerant of other races and religions, and simply wish to identify with Neo Nazism peacefully.

Some people want to identify with Nazis, even peacefully, because let's face it; the Nazi party did great things when it wasn't committing genocide and invading innocent countries.

[Baltenstein]

Nazism... Was a political party. Now the hatred that stems from Nazism -- that's an ideology.

While most Neo Nazis are racist and are often times violent, there are Neo Nazis who are also tolerant of other races and religions, and simply wish to identify with Neo Nazism peacefully.

Does that mean that they want to wipe out the subhuman vermin...on a verbal level only?

[The Realm of God]

Here in the UK we have a 'wonderful' bunch of Nazi racist dickheads called the BNP now the BNP spreads hate about anyone who isnt British or Christian or whatever. They regerly fight with a group founded to beat the living shite out of them called Unite Against Facism so must rallies end up on tv as the two groups duff each other up.

The BNP is supported by some more cretins called the English Defence League. Both of these groups evolved from radical conservatives who hate immigrants. Most of there members are borderline insane. There Leader Nick Griffin said he had been meeting with the non violent.wing of the Ku Klux Klan. Facism is not inherently evil just the practernersof the idology

[Power Jesus]

Because they recognise the inherent superiority of the Aryan race.

[The USOT]

Nazism... Was a political party. Now the hatred that stems from Nazism -- that's an ideology.

While most Neo Nazis are racist and are often times violent, there are Neo Nazis who are also tolerant of other races and religions, and simply wish to identify with Neo Nazism peacefully.

Does that mean that they want to wipe out the subhuman vermin...on a verbal level only?

Is it bad that I immediatly picture Hitler using dragon shouts?

[Vidin]

Because ignorance is, always has been, and always will be inevitable.

[The Germania Alliance]

Now this makes me wonder why when people hear 'Neo Nazi,' they instantly associate every Neo Nazi with hatred and murder. Yes, I understand Nazis were bad, and yes, I understand Neo Nazis have made a bad name for themselves.

The ideology behind Neo Nazism doesn't have to be racial or religious, not every time. While the majority of Neo Nazis are pretty violent and hateful, there ARE Neo Nazis who aren't a danger to anyone, and never will be.

While most Neo Nazis are racist and are often times violent, there are Neo Nazis who are also tolerant of other races and religions, and simply wish to identify with Neo Nazism peacefully.

Is that a surprise? I'm assuming you've never heard of a peaceful protest.

Some people want to identify with Nazis, even peacefully, because let's face it; the Nazi party did great things when it wasn't committing genocide and invading innocent countries.

The Nazis were never inherently bad. Germany was a damn fine country, up until Hitler decided to prosecute the Jews and invade his neighbors. Problem?

[New Sapienta]

Because people like scapegoats for their problems.

[Coccygia]

I think one reason there are Neo-Nazis is that Hitler was only in power for 12 years, so people can say, "The Third Reich just wasn't given a fair chance." (Unlike Soviet Communism, which was in power over 70 years.)

[New Sapienta]

I think one reason there are Neo-Nazis is that Hitler was only in power for 12 years, so people can say, "The Third Reich just wasn't given a fair chance." (Unlike Soviet Communism, which was in power over 70 years.)

Despite the fact they were the reason they didn't last long,

[Dragonia Re Xzua]

Neo-Nazis exist because they are bored and have nothing better to do, that's how I see it.

[Meldaria]

The same reason Neo-Stalinists, Neo-Maoists, and modern American "exceptionalists" exist. The US has committed atrocities far greater than those of Nazi Germany. Many atrocious misdeeds being strikingly similar and even occurring during the same period as Nazi Germany's reign. The victors in war write history, but during WW2 Japanese Americans were treated comparably by the Americans as the Jews were by the Germans. I don't think it's really fair to criticize someone for accepting one idea just because it's less popular than another when most Neo whatevers are equally atrocious. I mean if it no longer exists whatsoever obviously enough people found it an appalling concept to begin with.

[Coccygia]

I think one reason there are Neo-Nazis is that Hitler was only in power for 12 years, so people can say, "The Third Reich just wasn't given a fair chance." (Unlike Soviet Communism, which was in power over 70 years.)

Despite the fact they were the reason they didn't last long,

No use trying to confuse Neo-Nazis with facts.

[Sidhae]

Well, people do make their mistakes... What the modern world really has learned from the failure of Nazis is that history rewards patience and subtlety. Nazis obviously wanted things done now and here and were none too subtle about them. Which is why they failed.

As for modern Neo-Nazis, there's basically two kinds of them. One, which is unfortunately the popular image of a typical Neo-Nazi, is the violent thug bashing lone darkies on the street. These folks are generally disgruntled young men from the lower classes who need someone to vent their frustration on. They would do it on just about anyone for any reason, ideology merely provides them with a reasonable excuse and convenient victims. Obviously, this kind of Nazis don't really do much for the cause other than eventually getting banged up for inciting racial violence and giving National Socialism a bad name. As a National Socialist myself, I strongly disdain these people, if only because their actions do nothing but help rival propaganda.

Then there is the other, more serious kind of National Socialists. You won't see them beating some unfortunate darkie on the street, chances are, you won't ever see them and recognize them as National Socialists. These are decent White (and not only White, mind it) men and women who spend their days at work, striving to improve the lives of themselves and those of their compatriots. They have no time to attend rallies, and no interest in violence. They are the ones who work their way into and around the system rather than antagonize it. What makes these people National Socialists is their shared belief in social equality and justice within the limits of their ethnic group. They believe it is wrong to put one's own interests before those of one's people - the group that one shares blood, history and culture with, and they do not feel morally or otherwise obliged to share the fruits of their work with those from outside their group. Which is why those other people have their own group in the first place.

It is this kind of people that really should be taken seriously by friends and enemies of National Socialism alike. After all, street thugs are only dangerous when they have a proper organization and funding behind them, and it is without exception this second kind of people that provide both.

[New Sapienta]

Well, people do make their mistakes... What the modern world really has learned from the failure of Nazis is that history rewards patience and subtlety. Nazis obviously wanted things done now and here and were none too subtle about them. Which is why they failed.

As for modern Neo-Nazis, there's basically two kinds of them. One, which is unfortunately the popular image of a typical Neo-Nazi, is the violent thug bashing lone darkies on the street. These folks are generally disgruntled young men from the lower classes who need someone to vent their frustration on. They would do it on just about anyone for any reason, ideology merely provides them with a reasonable excuse and convenient victims. Obviously, this kind of Nazis don't really do much for the cause other than eventually getting banged up for inciting racial violence and giving National Socialism a bad name. As a National Socialist myself, I strongly disdain these people, if only because their actions do nothing but help rival propaganda.

Then there is the other, more serious kind of National Socialists. You won't see them beating some unfortunate darkie on the street, chances are, you won't ever see them and recognize them as National Socialists. These are decent White (and not only White, mind it) men and women who spend their days at work, striving to improve the lives of themselves and those of their compatriots. They have no time to attend rallies, and no interest in violence. They are the ones who work their way into and around the system rather than antagonize it. What makes these people National Socialists is their shared belief in social equality and justice within the limits of their ethnic group. They believe it is wrong to put one's own interests before those of one's people - the group that one shares blood, history and culture with, and they do not feel morally or otherwise obliged to share the fruits of their work with those from outside their group. Which is why those other people have their own group in the first place.

It is this kind of people that really should be taken seriously by friends and enemies of National Socialism alike. After all, street thugs are only dangerous when they have a proper organization and funding behind them, and it is without exception this second kind of people that provide both.

Why exactly, do you owe any loyalty to your ethnic group? You were never a member of the previous culture or history and "blood" shouldn't come into it.

[Foguk]

Now now, Hitler wasn't all bad.

I'd be a Nazi to if Hitler didn't have 11 million kills under his belt.

[Borgyn]

a giant pile of flaming bullshit

BEEPBEEPBEEP. Oh, it seems my bullshit detector has gone off.

It is true that non-white Neo-Nazis exist. Like that kid whose name I forget who was a Native American and killed kids at his school. But, there are NOT fine, upstanding, intelligent Neo-Nazis. Because if they were fine, upstanding, and intelligent, they would have enough brains and common sense to join a party that ISN'T defined by a vicious hatred of everyone who isn't part of their small, ill-defined minority.

[Conserative Morality]

There are more tolerant skinheads in general than Neo Nazis, however. Some people want to identify with Nazis, even peacefully, because let's face it; the Nazi party did great things when it wasn't committing genocide and invading innocent countries.

Like destroying Germany's economy, tearing down the social structure of Germany, making a cult of personality around a single man of below average intelligence...?

[United Dependencies]

There are more tolerant skinheads in general than Neo Nazis, however. Some people want to identify with Nazis, even peacefully, because let's face it; the Nazi party did great things when it wasn't committing genocide and invading innocent countries.

Like destroying Germany's economy, tearing down the social structure of Germany, making a cult of personality around a single man of below average intelligence...?

They did have snappy uniforms and were good at marching.

[EnragedMaldivians]

a giant pile of flaming bullshit

BEEPBEEPBEEP. Oh, it seems my bullshit detector has gone off.

It is true that non-white Neo-Nazis exist. Like that kid whose name I forget who was a Native American and killed kids at his school. But, there are NOT fine, upstanding, intelligent Neo-Nazis. Because if they were fine, upstanding, and intelligent, they would have enough brains and common sense to join a party that ISN'T defined by a vicious hatred of everyone who isn't part of their small, ill-defined minority.

Nah - it's comforting to beleive that all people who follow ridiculous ideologies have some kind of intelligence defect, or are generally just uneducated. That's not even remotely true.

[The Germania Alliance]

There are more tolerant skinheads in general than Neo Nazis, however. Some people want to identify with Nazis, even peacefully, because let's face it; the Nazi party did great things when it wasn't committing genocide and invading innocent countries.

Like destroying Germany's economy, tearing down the social structure of Germany, making a cult of personality around a single man of below average intelligence...?

You're wrong about all of that, except for the cult part.

[Conserative Morality]

You're wrong about all of that, except for the cult part.

Oh, of course, I forgot that Nazi myths of economic superiority in a time when Germany's living standards dramatically decreased, even moreso than the rest of the developed world at that time were still in effect. I'm a little curious about what you think the secret police, widespread political violence and atmosphere of fear that were created by the Nazi party had on general society.