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Postby New Conglomerate » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:47 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Nazis in Space wrote:The sexy, sexy uniforms.

But only the first picture is sexy.

The second one appears to be a child, so that may be intended.

Of course, this is the internet...
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Postby Nazis in Space » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:54 pm

New Conglomerate wrote:
Nazis in Space wrote:The sexy, sexy uniforms.

The Italians' uniforms were better.

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Postby Beringovia » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:57 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Greater Tezdrian wrote:I find it slightly pathetic that people cannot conceive of someone being genuinely attracted to National Socialist ideology based on it's own merits.

Yeah, well, that series of unfortunate incidents between 1933 and 1945 kind of soured people on it, don't you know.


Actually it turned out rather well if you were a member of the "Master Race." At least, that is, until the insane genicidal war of aggression that left your nation a smoldering ruin. Yeah, that kinda sucked.

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Postby Yootwopia » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:19 pm

Because people continue to have shit opinions.
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Postby Coccygia » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:21 pm

You are not too far from the truth. The reason Neo-Nazis exist is quite simple. People keep forgetting to flush.
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Postby Ravineworld » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:27 pm

Well, I first would like to say that I have a small (like 25%) amount of jewish heritage, so don't take this post for me defending Nazi's, because they are wrong on so many issues.
Nazi's exist because of economic factors. When races are truly and completely segregated, competition over jobs doesn't exist between the races. For instance, in a segregated society, a black man looking for a job in a factory isn't going to ever lose their job to a member of another race, because they will be working in a factory only for their race. So any competition between the races over jobs is gotten rid of. So, when a white "aryan" person loses their job to a person that is different from them, they are going to likely resent that person, and because they are different, begin to think badly of their race. Another reason is people are going to notice when they see on the news that the majority of people in prison are not white, and may stereotype non-whites as criminals, which would obviously mean that they think that the said race is dumber or not as good as them.
Another reason Neo-Nazis exist is because of nazi economic policy. Nazi economics is a kind of left keynesian (at least the way I see nazi economic policy) policy that attracts people who are looking for "better" education, healthcare, and all around conditions for members of their race.
I am not a believer in segregation, the "aryan" race, or other such Nazi BS, but I think that people shouldn't demonize somebody because they have views that are mainly caused by poor economic conditions.
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Postby Cullons » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:33 pm

i think there is also the small issue, and sorry if its already been mentioned,

the uneducated and weak minded are easily into manipulating. Add in a few insecurities and you have

a

Fanatic.

if you tick the boxes you can become a neo nazi. right religion, jihadist. and so on

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Postby Yootwopia » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:33 pm

Ravineworld wrote:When races are truly and completely segregated, competition over jobs doesn't exist between the races.

Of course it does, the comptetition then becomes an entire race against another in terms of who gets what on the pecking order.
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Postby Simon Cowell of the RR » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:35 pm

Ravineworld wrote:Well, I first would like to say that I have a small (like 25%) amount of jewish heritage, so don't take this post for me defending Nazi's, because they are wrong on so many issues.
Nazi's exist because of economic factors. When races are truly and completely segregated, competition over jobs doesn't exist between the races. For instance, in a segregated society, a black man looking for a job in a factory isn't going to ever lose their job to a member of another race, because they will be working in a factory only for their race. So any competition between the races over jobs is gotten rid of. So, when a white "aryan" person loses their job to a person that is different from them, they are going to likely resent that person, and because they are different, begin to think badly of their race. Another reason is people are going to notice when they see on the news that the majority of people in prison are not white, and may stereotype non-whites as criminals, which would obviously mean that they think that the said race is dumber or not as good as them.
Another reason Neo-Nazis exist is because of nazi economic policy. Nazi economics is a kind of left keynesian (at least the way I see nazi economic policy) policy that attracts people who are looking for "better" education, healthcare, and all around conditions for members of their race.
I am not a believer in segregation, the "aryan" race, or other such Nazi BS, but I think that people shouldn't demonize somebody because they have views that are mainly caused by poor economic conditions.

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Postby Ravineworld » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:35 pm

Yootwopia wrote:
Ravineworld wrote:When races are truly and completely segregated, competition over jobs doesn't exist between the races.

Of course it does, the comptetition then becomes an entire race against another in terms of who gets what on the pecking order.

I am not defending segregation, but Nazis believe that and their logic isn't that bad
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Postby Yootwopia » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:37 pm

Ravineworld wrote:
Yootwopia wrote:Of course it does, the comptetition then becomes an entire race against another in terms of who gets what on the pecking order.

I am not defending segregation, but Nazis believe that and their logic isn't that bad

It's stupid for a reason I put down pretty succinctly.
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Postby Ravineworld » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:38 pm

Simon Cowell of the RR wrote:
Ravineworld wrote:Well, I first would like to say that I have a small (like 25%) amount of jewish heritage, so don't take this post for me defending Nazi's, because they are wrong on so many issues.
Nazi's exist because of economic factors. When races are truly and completely segregated, competition over jobs doesn't exist between the races. For instance, in a segregated society, a black man looking for a job in a factory isn't going to ever lose their job to a member of another race, because they will be working in a factory only for their race. So any competition between the races over jobs is gotten rid of. So, when a white "aryan" person loses their job to a person that is different from them, they are going to likely resent that person, and because they are different, begin to think badly of their race. Another reason is people are going to notice when they see on the news that the majority of people in prison are not white, and may stereotype non-whites as criminals, which would obviously mean that they think that the said race is dumber or not as good as them.
Another reason Neo-Nazis exist is because of nazi economic policy. Nazi economics is a kind of left keynesian (at least the way I see nazi economic policy) policy that attracts people who are looking for "better" education, healthcare, and all around conditions for members of their race.
I am not a believer in segregation, the "aryan" race, or other such Nazi BS, but I think that people shouldn't demonize somebody because they have views that are mainly caused by poor economic conditions.

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The Nazis existed because there was a demand and they supplied it. But to reduce one of humanity's greatest atrocities to basic economics does a horrible disservice. And we are not fans of Nazi because they executed 12 million people for being different and caused a global war. While we must look to the reasons for this as a way to prepare for the future, the idea that we should forgive them because things were uncomfortable in Germany at the time is laughable.

I am talking about Neo-Nazis concerns and issues, not classical nazis. I don't believe that but I think people should at least be a able to understand that economic factors are what create nazism and racism
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Postby Ravineworld » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:41 pm

Yootwopia wrote:
Ravineworld wrote:I am not defending segregation, but Nazis believe that and their logic isn't that bad

It's stupid for a reason I put down pretty succinctly.

It is stupid, but the logic behind it is just simple logic. That doesn't mean it is the *right logic, but it is the logic they follow.
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Postby Yootwopia » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:42 pm

Ravineworld wrote:
Yootwopia wrote:It's stupid for a reason I put down pretty succinctly.

It is stupid, but the logic behind it is just simple logic.

Yeah, but it isn't, though.
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Postby Samuelistan » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:45 pm

Boo the Nazis

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Postby Ravineworld » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:46 pm

Yootwopia wrote:
Ravineworld wrote:It is stupid, but the logic behind it is just simple logic.

Yeah, but it isn't, though.

It is pretty simple. Simple is never good. Good logic has more than one or two layers.
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Postby Israslovakahzerbajan » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:48 pm

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:51 pm

Ravineworld wrote:It is pretty simple. Simple is never good. Good logic has more than one or two layers.

... What?
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Postby Ravineworld » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:52 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Ravineworld wrote:It is pretty simple. Simple is never good. Good logic has more than one or two layers.

... What?

Layers. That is how I interpret schools of thought, books, and logic.
Here's how it works: Take for instance the issue of gun rights. Basic logic would say that if guns are illegal, then there would be less guns, and therefore less gun-related violence. That is one layer of logic, the logic that is stripped to its basics. Then there is the next step up in thought, which believes that if everybody was armed, then nobody would be dumb enough to shoot each other. That is the second layer of logic, the logic that contradicts the most basic logic with other basic logic that is still not very complex, but is more complex than the original strain of logic. And that just keeps going on and on.
Sorry that that was a little off topic
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Postby Yootwopia » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:54 pm

Ravineworld wrote:
Yootwopia wrote:Yeah, but it isn't, though.

It is pretty simple.

It's a pretty wild extrapolation to be considered 'simple logic'.
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Postby Ursakov » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:54 pm

I have no idea. I've yet to understand why people believe strange and/or terrible things.
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Postby Demerium » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:58 pm

Because we believe that our country is only for us. Here in Moscow nearly 90% of rape is by a kavkaz muslim. We want them and foreigners out of our country to keep our land and Slavic blood pure, just like it was centuries ago. We want a clean Russia rid of muslim and jewish scum. Russia is for Russians. They come here from their lands and rape our women and sell krokodil to our children. Personally unlike other Neo-Nazis I don't fully agree with Hitler and Stalin and what they did. They killed slavs.
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Postby Peoples Republic of Old Russia » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:59 pm

Some people genuinely believe in Nazism.
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Postby Israslovakahzerbajan » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:05 pm

Demerium wrote:Because we believe that our country is only for us. Here in Moscow nearly 90% of rape is by a kavkaz muslim. We want them and foreigners out of our country to keep our land and Slavic blood pure, just like it was centuries ago. We want a clean Russia rid of muslim and jewish scum. Russia is for Russians. They come here from their lands and rape our women and sell krokodil to our children. Personally unlike other Neo-Nazis I don't fully agree with Hitler and Stalin and what they did. They killed slavs.


Man, talk about screwing the tourist industry...not that I'd pay to freeze my butt off anyways, not for me.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:05 pm

Ravineworld wrote:Layers. That is how I interpret schools of thought, books, and logic.
Here's how it works: Take for instance the issue of gun rights. Basic logic would say that if guns are illegal, then there would be less guns, and therefore less gun-related violence. That is one layer of logic, the logic that is stripped to its basics. Then there is the next step up in thought, which believes that if everybody was armed, then nobody would be dumb enough to shoot each other. That is the second layer of logic, the logic that contradicts the most basic logic with other basic logic that is still not very complex, but is more complex than the original strain of logic. And that just keeps going on and on.
Sorry that that was a little off topic

I feel I've lost a few IQ points after reading that.
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