Why do Neo-Nazis exist?

[Plantatia]

This is my attept to repost this nonsense as a proper thread, as I fell it will make for an interesting discussion.

The question is, of course, why do neo-nazi groups exist? Why are there people who seem to see the Third Riech as something to be emmulated or glorified?
As we all know, the Nazi regime was an authoritarian Facsist dictatorship involving racial nationalism, a personality cult, genocide on a massive and industrialized scale, and the standard dictatorial violence.

Personally, I think that people today are attracted to Nazism for the same reasons they were then: They feel somehow let down or betrayed by society and channel that into nationalist or racist fervor.

What sayeth thee, NationStates General?

[Wikkiwallana]

Because it's human nature to want to blame others for your problems.

[The USOT]

See I have plenty of theories, but they are admittedly entirely supported based of personal experience. A quick google doesnt really show that there has been much in the way of demographics however.

Regardless, historical ignorance is of course a fair part of this issue.

[Desperate Measures]

"Mom, why is there hate in the world?"

[Dragosovlkiav]

your theory is one i like. it makes sense.

[Greater Tezdrian]

Because they...agree with the ideology?

[Conserative Morality]

Because they...agree with the ideology?

Scary thought.

[The Congregationists]

To cause deliberate outrage. To say, basically "look at me. Look at how much shock value I generate."

[Greater Tezdrian]

Because they...agree with the ideology?

Scary thought.

Not really. I'm met some very nice National Socialists, both of the Hitlerian and Strasserist persuasions.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

This is my attept to repost this nonsense as a proper thread, as I fell it will make for an interesting discussion.

The question is, of course, why do neo-nazi groups exist? Why are there people who seem to see the Third Riech as something to be emmulated or glorified?
As we all know, the Nazi regime was an authoritarian Facsist dictatorship involving racial nationalism, a personality cult, genocide on a massive and industrialized scale, and the standard dictatorial violence.

Personally, I think that people today are attracted to Nazism for the same reasons they were then: They feel somehow let down or betrayed by society and channel that into nationalist or racist fervor.

What sayeth thee, NationStates General?

Because unlike most other authoritarian nutjob philosophies, the Nazis at least had a sense of style.

[Wisconsin7]

Because some people just... I mean, they want.... You know what, I have no idea. I don't think it really matters, anyone who wants to commit genocide is an asshole, plain and simple, and I don't care if I get a warning for saying it, someone had to.

[The Emerald Legion]

Because hitler now has a manga.

It must be trendy!

[Trotskylvania]

Because they...agree with the ideology?

But why do they agree.

In boring liberal democratic mall land, what drives a person to embrace a deeply hated, totalitarian racist ideology?

[Dragosovlkiav]

Because some people just... I mean, they want.... You know what, I have no idea. I don't think it really matters, anyone who wants to commit genocide is an asshole, plain and simple, and I don't care if I get a warning for saying it, someone had to.

well ive seen worse.

[Vici Minerva]

Honestly this thread is no better than the other (albeit it's probably in a more grammatically correct format). The question is not why Neo-Nazi groups exist, but why anyone could have admiration for the Nazis. Also the second half seems a little biased. You could type your own opinion into the debate, however the way you've presented it as fact rather than personal opinion.

[Lackadaisical2]

To cause deliberate outrage. To say, basically "look at me. Look at how much shock value I generate."

That may eb the case sometimes, but I'm with Tezdrian here, some people really agree with it, and of course the Nazi's did have great style, and Jews control the world, so theres that too.

Because some people just... I mean, they want.... You know what, I have no idea. I don't think it really matters, anyone who wants to commit genocide is an asshole, plain and simple, and I don't care if I get a warning for saying it, someone had to.

Genocide isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

[Trotskylvania]

Because they...agree with the ideology?

Scary thought.

[Trotskylvania]

Honestly this thread is no better than the other (albeit it's probably in a more grammatically correct format). The question is not why Neo-Nazi groups exist, but why anyone could have admiration for the Nazis. Also the second half seems a little biased. You could type your own opinion into the debate, however the way you've presented it as fact rather than personal opinion.

This is not a question one remains "unbiased" about.

[Conserative Morality]

Not really. I'm met some very nice National Socialists, both of the Hitlerian and Strasserist persuasions.

Not sure that that they're nice people makes the fact that they embrace an openly racist ideology at a time when racism is not only unacceptable but scientifically destroyed, follow an ideology that has little meaning beyond the open support of a cult of personality, and committed one of the worst genocides in human history in it's fifteen or so years of existence.

[The USOT]

Scary thought.

Not really. I'm met some very nice National Socialists, both of the Hitlerian and Strasserist persuasions.

That must be rare. That isnt a comment on their temperment (albeit that is of course questionable considering highschool level biology proves so many of the Nazi assumptions incorrect) but on their political standpoint. I find few Neo-Nazis actually understand the political and economic doctrines of both, and often seem to presume that the nazis hated muslims... A very innacurate statement.

[Wisconsin7]

To cause deliberate outrage. To say, basically "look at me. Look at how much shock value I generate."

That may eb the case sometimes, but I'm with Tezdrian here, some people really agree with it, and of course the Nazi's did have great style, and Jews control the world, so theres that too.

Because some people just... I mean, they want.... You know what, I have no idea. I don't think it really matters, anyone who wants to commit genocide is an asshole, plain and simple, and I don't care if I get a warning for saying it, someone had to.

Genocide isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

You do know that genocide is the systematic elimination of an ethnic group, right?

[Vici Minerva]

Honestly this thread is no better than the other (albeit it's probably in a more grammatically correct format). The question is not why Neo-Nazi groups exist, but why anyone could have admiration for the Nazis. Also the second half seems a little biased. You could type your own opinion into the debate, however the way you've presented it as fact rather than personal opinion.

This is not a question one remains "unbiased" about.

Well it's the way all questions should be. They should be handled like an ideal lawyer handles the law; without bias. Now a majority of people are clearly opposed to Nazism, but if we want to ask why anyone would like them, we need to examine it without our own personal ideas so that it can be viewed from a different perspective. It's not a "Nazis are good/bad" debate, it's just trying to understand the point of view that believes it's good.

[Beringovia]

I believe that some people, for whatever reason, feel alienated from society, and these people tend to gravitate towards causes/belief systems/subcultures which society dissaproves of.

[Conserative Morality]

Well it's the way all questions should be. They should be handled like an ideal lawyer handles the law; without bias. Now a majority of people are clearly opposed to Nazism, but if we want to ask why anyone would like them, we need to examine it without our own personal ideas so that it can be viewed from a different perspective. It's not a "Nazis are good/bad" debate, it's just trying to understand the point of view that believes it's good.

The only justification I can think of is out and out racism. There are other ideologies that present much better alternatives for both progressives and reactionaries. Nazism is a bad joke founded around a cult of personality.

[Wisconsin7]

I believe that some people, for whatever reason, feel alienated from society, and these people tend to gravitate towards causes/belief systems/subcultures which society dissaproves of.

I feel alienated from society too, but you don't see me advocating the murder of a large portion of the human race.