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by The-_Sicarii » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:42 pm

by Person012345 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:42 pm
Isolated China wrote:Imsogone wrote:
Again, as reprehensible as I would find such trash, it. should. not. be. censored. The only things that should be actionable are slander and libel.
Such as what type of slander and libel?
And why should books encouraging people to murder, say, their neighbors, be allowed to be sold freely on the market and possibly make a few insane people kill their neighbors?

by Biop » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:43 pm

by Laissez-Faire » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:44 pm
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Imsogone wrote:
Again, as reprehensible as I would find such trash, it. should. not. be. censored. The only things that should be actionable are slander and libel.
What if my book explicitly tells the reader to commit an illicit act? Would you extend the same protection to other forms of speech?
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by Lackadaisical2 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:45 pm
Imsogone wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:What if my book explicitly tells the reader to commit an illicit act? Would you extend the same protection to other forms of speech?
Whether or not the reader commits the act is his or her choice. It's like blaming Grand Theft Auto for crimes committed by people who play the game.
Really, we've gotten so stupidly ignorant in this culture that we can blame books, games, movies and TV shows for our actions and get away with it. Nothing like making a book responsible for our actions, is there. Hell, maybe most of us don't deserve freedom, but I'll be damned if I'm going allow my freedom to restricted because someone else can't handle - at least not without a fight.
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by Lackadaisical2 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:48 pm
Laissez-Faire wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:What if my book explicitly tells the reader to commit an illicit act? Would you extend the same protection to other forms of speech?
Who is going to judge what's explicit or not?
You can't blame the forum for the media nor can you blame the media for the resulting actions of the viewer.

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by The-_Sicarii » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:49 pm
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Imsogone wrote:Whether or not the reader commits the act is his or her choice. It's like blaming Grand Theft Auto for crimes committed by people who play the game.
Thats a bit different, GTA didn't necessarily advocate crime.Really, we've gotten so stupidly ignorant in this culture that we can blame books, games, movies and TV shows for our actions and get away with it. Nothing like making a book responsible for our actions, is there. Hell, maybe most of us don't deserve freedom, but I'll be damned if I'm going allow my freedom to restricted because someone else can't handle - at least not without a fight.
Mmm. So what about someone at a rally, and he tells everyone to go kill(not just suggests they should die, actually requests that a crime be committed) *insert person*?

by Euronion » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:51 pm
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by Lackadaisical2 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:58 pm
The-_Sicarii wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:Thats a bit different, GTA didn't necessarily advocate crime.
Mmm. So what about someone at a rally, and he tells everyone to go kill(not just suggests they should die, actually requests that a crime be committed) *insert person*?
That is called Sedition to Murder and is (I believe) a federal offence. It doesn't have much to do with violent video games or books.
I agree, we should punish the people who can't handle freedom instead of those who provide it.
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by Lackadaisical2 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:58 pm
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by Katganistan » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:04 pm
Euronion wrote:unless the book is overly saucy, never

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by The Corparation » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:12 pm
New Heathera wrote:I think the only exception I would make to my "no book censorship" policy would be demonic summoning ritual books and similar "supernaturally dangerous" material.
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