Should books every be censored/banned?

[Celephais]

*cough* I'm almost finished a book (longer than War and Peace) that I read completely on the internet *cough cough*

Isn't that bad for the eyes? The strength of the Kindle is that it's not like continuously looking into a light, given its e-ink screen.

Most people, anyway, find it very difficult to do.

Also, kindles.

If you ban a book (ie it can't be legally sold) then it can't be legally sold to Kindles either.

[Living Freedom Land]

If you ban a book (ie it can't be legally sold) then it can't be legally sold to Kindles either.

But it can be illegally pirated to Kindles and other e-reading devices.

[Celephais]

Pirating to kindles? I thought you could only buy things for them on the store. Uh, I feel stupid now, because I own a Kindle.

[Salandriagado]

Pirating to kindles? I thought you could only buy things for them on the store. Uh, I feel stupid now, because I own a Kindle.

Kindles are locked (seriously, libraries can't even lend on them), but other similar devices aren't.

[Ovisterra]

*cough* I'm almost finished a book (longer than War and Peace) that I read completely on the internet *cough cough*

Isn't that bad for the eyes? The strength of the Kindle is that it's not like continuously looking into a light, given its e-ink screen.

Most people, anyway, find it very difficult to do.

Meh. My eyes have suffered no lasting damage (that I've noticed). I spend so much time on a compuper anyway it isn't all that different.

And as for those people, I feel sorry for them, as they are missing out on pony fanfic.

Also, kindles.

If you ban a book (ie it can't be legally sold) then it can't be legally sold to Kindles either.

Legally? It can't be legally read on the net either, but hey, sometimes we have to make sacrifices to get around stupid authoritarian rules.

[Suidwes-Afrika]

Yes, I believe that any book which is deemed within reason to pose a threat to say, national security, should be censored. Any book which has no other purpose than to mindlessly promote something which is a very serious crime in any country, or mocks the nation's people/religion/ethnicity in a territory where the population feels very strongly about such matters, ought to be censored.

[Celephais]

Yes, I believe that any book which is deemed within reason to pose a threat to say, national security, should be censored.

That's covered under security and sensitive information laws.

Any book which has no other purpose than to mindlessly promote something which is a very serious crime in any country, or mocks the nation's people/religion/ethnicity in a territory where the population feels very strongly about such matters, ought to be censored.

There are quite a number of different races and religions in my country. I am not allowed to print anything uncomplimentary about any of them? To hell with that. Who gives a damn about feelings? That means that the noisiest troublemakers and complainers get special treatment.

[Living Freedom Land]

Pirating to kindles? I thought you could only buy things for them on the store. Uh, I feel stupid now, because I own a Kindle.

I have a Kindle 3 and I put .mobi files I've downloaded off the internet from Project Gutenberg. I just plug my Kindle into the computer and drag and drop the files into the documents folder. While PG's books are all public domain, one could theoretically find pirated books on the internet in that format.

Theoretically.

[Libaries]

NOO!!! I love books! They take you to a whole new world! Even with cussing, they're AMAZING!!

[THE NEW NEWLY UNITED STATES]

No it would be fascism and violate freedom of speech.

The only reason a political ideology or a government would ban a book is because the book go against them.

[THE NEW NEWLY UNITED STATES]

NOO!!! I love books! They take you to a whole new world! Even with cussing, they're AMAZING!!

Books with cussing are some of the best.

[Ovisterra]

NOO!!! I love books! They take you to a whole new world! Even with cussing, they're AMAZING!!

I loves me some books.

[Celephais]

Haha tbh all I want to do is move some public domain books in text format, stuff that's ridiculous hard to find, onto it. I'll look up the interwebs and see how to do that.

Can't see pirating onto Kindles ever catching on… there's so much free stuff in the store.

[Biop]

No, but the only books that should be banned are books that teach one how to make weapons. Even then, it's hard to enforce.

Why?

[THE NEW NEWLY UNITED STATES]

Yes, I believe that any book which is deemed within reason to pose a threat to say, national security, should be censored. Any book which has no other purpose than to mindlessly promote something which is a very serious crime in any country, or mocks the nation's people/religion/ethnicity in a territory where the population feels very strongly about such matters, ought to be censored.

Even then it still would violate freedom of speech. Unless that nation doesn't give a fuck about freedom of speech then it can ban it even though it shouldn't.

[Suidwes-Afrika]

Yes, I believe that any book which is deemed within reason to pose a threat to say, national security, should be censored. Any book which has no other purpose than to mindlessly promote something which is a very serious crime in any country, or mocks the nation's people/religion/ethnicity in a territory where the population feels very strongly about such matters, ought to be censored.

Even then it still would violate freedom of speech. Unless that nation doesn't give a fuck about freedom of speech then it can ban it even though it shouldn't.

Eh, what about a theocracy, or an extremely religious state? Should they allow a book into their country whose only purpose is to put down the people's faith without any facts whatsoever, just slander?

[Plantatia]

No, but the only books that should be banned are books that teach one how to make weapons. Even then, it's hard to enforce.

I have at least ten of those. Like my completed weaponry, you'll have to pry them from my cold, dead hands.

[Plantatia]

Even then it still would violate freedom of speech. Unless that nation doesn't give a fuck about freedom of speech then it can ban it even though it shouldn't.

Eh, what about a theocracy, or an extremely religious state? Should they allow a book into their country whose only purpose is to put down the people's faith without any facts whatsoever, just slander?

If anyone fells that a book which is in print is slanderous, then they shold reserve the right to sue the author/publisher/whoever owns the copyright.

[The Rich Port]

No, but the only books that should be banned are books that teach one how to make weapons. Even then, it's hard to enforce.

... There's books for that?

You can learn how to do that easy.

You just sharpen shit to a point.

You don't even need a book for that.

[THE NEW NEWLY UNITED STATES]

Even then it still would violate freedom of speech. Unless that nation doesn't give a fuck about freedom of speech then it can ban it even though it shouldn't.

Eh, what about a theocracy, or an extremely religious state? Should they allow a book into their country whose only purpose is to put down the people's faith without any facts whatsoever, just slander?

Yes and if it does who will buy the book anyway if its that bad?

[The Rich Port]

Mein Kampf counts as a historical document; censoring it is censoring history. Don't we have enough of that?

Plus the Nazis had it censored in the United States to remove the more violent rhetoric, sueing the pants off those who made accurate translations.

OH, shit, now the Teabaggers who wanted to take slavery out of the history books sound amateurish!

NAZIS ARE BACK ON TOP AGAIN!

[Suidwes-Afrika]

If anyone fells that a book which is in print is slanderous, then they shold reserve the right to sue the author/publisher/whoever owns the copyright.

What about the country whose people aren't "reasonable" and "civilized" enough to bother with a lawsuit? What about the country where they simply burn down the publishing office and riot until their demands for the book's censorship are met? I can think of a few, especially in the Middle East and Central Asia.

[THE NEW NEWLY UNITED STATES]

No, but the only books that should be banned are books that teach one how to make weapons. Even then, it's hard to enforce.

... There's books for that?

You can learn how to do that easy.

You just sharpen shit to a point.

You don't even need a book for that.

What if they don't know how to sharpen shit

[Ovisterra]

... There's books for that?

You can learn how to do that easy.

You just sharpen shit to a point.

You don't even need a book for that.

What if they don't know how to sharpen shit

They don't deserve weapons.

[Caninope]

No it would be fascism and violate freedom of speech.

The only reason a political ideology or a government would ban a book is because the book go against them.

The government frequently orders injunctions against libel and slander.