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Should books ever be censored/banned?

yes
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no
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sometimes
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:11 pm

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Greater Tezdrian wrote:Censored? No. Banned? Yes.

Sarkasmus?

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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:21 pm

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Greater Tezdrian wrote:Censored? No. Banned? Yes.

Sarkasmus?

Hmm?
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:59 pm

Tekania wrote:
Shadowlandistan wrote:No, but the only books that should be banned are books that teach one how to make weapons. Even then, it's hard to enforce.


So, ban chemistry and physics textbooks?


This is true. I've got an old Chemistry textbook lying around somewhere that goes into quite a lot of detail into the processes of producing Cyanide and Chloroform.
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Postby Proloteriat » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:04 pm

Don't ever ban books.
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Postby Katganistan » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:06 pm

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Clean it every so often or it'll start to make people avoid you?

Everyone has one, and it usually stinks. ;)

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Postby Katganistan » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:08 pm

Revolutopia wrote:I do find interesting that so much people think they are being clever by mentioning they would censor Twilight or acting like it is some heinous book.



It's fluff which basically transmits the message that one should give up one's future to a much older stalking pedophile.

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Postby Katganistan » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:11 pm

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Indeed.

My wife went to a showing of one of the twilights. Don't remember which but she said it was disturbing as the audience was a mix of tweenies and 40+ year old women.

She never went to another movie after that.....


I started reading the book, you know, trying to see what the hype was about. I found it to be lackluster and vapid. Before that, I watched the first movie with my mother at her house. I still want that hour or so from my life back.

I can, to a certain point, understand something about the saga. It made teen girls read. But that's not enough. If you're to try and cause a teenager to read, maybe it would be best that the writing piece is worthwhile, that it actually helps the teen develop (something other than an obsession with Edward Cullen or the other lad) mentally. Something that, IMO, the Twilight saga is not.

I read all four to see what my students were on about. Some of the guys liked it as much as the girls too.
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Postby Caninope » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:13 pm

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Katganistan wrote:Yes.

The first one to go should be Fahrenheit 451.


How...ironic...451 handled censorship...how ironic.

Bradbury was more taking a shot at TV than censorship though.
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Postby Katganistan » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:14 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:I believe some books should be banned, such as Mein Kampf, The Breivik manuscript, and the socalled Satanic Bible, just to mention a few.

I think by banning them you just get people MORE interested in reading them to see what's so bad about them.

Besides, Mein Kampf is valuable insofar as it gives you a clear idea of what Hitler was thinking.

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Postby Caninope » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:17 pm

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Etharnor wrote:i personally think that books should never be censored/banned, no matter what language they use or what their subject matter is.

the reason I am asking is because my language teacher is forcing us to buy the censored version of huckleberry finn, and it really annoys me that we are forced to read a watered down version of one of the greatest books of all time.


what are your thoughts, NS?


No, books should never be censored or banned. If one is uncomfortable with some reading material, rather than appeal for its censoring or banning, the best thing to do is not read it and allow others to read it if they so wish to.

What if it's libel?
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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Postby Katganistan » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:18 pm

Tekania wrote:I don't believe in censoring/banning books. If you don't like the content feel free to simply not read it, just don't make the determination that no one else can either.


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Postby Katganistan » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:21 pm

Caninope wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:
How...ironic...451 handled censorship...how ironic.

Bradbury was more taking a shot at TV than censorship though.

Except the whole thing about burning books, and burning down the houses of people who read books, and keeping records on and following suspected book readers... and explicitly saying the only acceptable reading material were porn magazines, comics, and fluffy "true romance" magazines....

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Postby Morrdh » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:21 pm

Krala Sau wrote:I voted sometimes. Why?
Because Twilight.


Think thats covered by 'To Be Burned'.
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Postby Caninope » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:26 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Caninope wrote:Bradbury was more taking a shot at TV than censorship though.

Except the whole thing about burning books, and burning down the houses of people who read books, and keeping records on and following suspected book readers... and explicitly saying the only acceptable reading material were porn magazines, comics, and fluffy "true romance" magazines....

I've read the book, and one of the biggest points he makes is the mindlessness of Montag's wife, who is constantly watching TV. It's about people rejecting books, not about censorship. It also helps that he's specifically said this.
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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Postby Celephais » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:27 pm

Katganistan wrote:the only acceptable reading material were porn magazines, comics


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Japan.html

Way round the censorship SORTED!
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Postby Keronians » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:28 pm

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You must have been the one who voted "sometimes".

Actually doing them is a crime, reading it and owning it is not but it could be used as evidence if you're suspected of terrorism.


Which is going to do fuck all if you have a nuke.

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Postby Person012345 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:34 pm

Should books every be censored/banned?

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Postby Celephais » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:35 pm

^ HAR HAR SO ORIGINAL

you're not being clever, you know that right
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Postby Keronians » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:37 pm

Celephais wrote:^ HAR HAR SO ORIGINAL

you're not being clever, you know that right


This post is useless, you know that, right?

That book must be burned immediately. :evil:
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:46 pm

No.

Although, it's up to the school which books they own and which ones they let kids read on school grounds.
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Postby Bottle » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:51 pm

Maybe it's a generational thing, but I honestly don't see what point there would be in banning books today. With internet access and all.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:53 pm

Bottle wrote:Maybe it's a generational thing, but I honestly don't see what point there would be in banning books today. With internet access and all.


Pfft, the Internet. No one uses that.
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Postby Celephais » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:30 pm

Bottle wrote:Maybe it's a generational thing, but I honestly don't see what point there would be in banning books today. With internet access and all.


Well, it is a lot harder to read books on a screen. I can think of several books I have found it impossible to get a hold of and would have to ship from the States, even though I "could" read them online. It's just not something people really do.
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Postby Ovisterra » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:30 pm

No. Nevery every. :P
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Postby Ovisterra » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:32 pm

Celephais wrote:
Bottle wrote:Maybe it's a generational thing, but I honestly don't see what point there would be in banning books today. With internet access and all.


Well, it is a lot harder to read books on a screen. I can think of several books I have found it impossible to get a hold of and would have to ship from the States, even though I "could" read them online. It's just not something people really do.


*cough* I'm almost finished a book (longer than War and Peace) that I read completely on the internet *cough cough*

Also, kindles.
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