Communism.Was it really invented by Karl Marx

[Aethelstania]

Lately,communism has been getting alot of hate.Also,people say[even textbooks]that Karl Marx founded it.However,a thought has come to me:did he really found communism?Was it really Russia who was first to become communist?If you really think about it,anciet civilizations did the same.So my question is,was Russia really the first communist country,or has the idea been around since the beginning of civilization?

Well Communism that we know today was invented by Marx. Primitive society and hunter gatherers where communist in the sense that they shared out food and responsibilities and so, but where they communist in practice ? they where ruled over generally by a chief or king so where pretty despotic. Once we had settled and developed roads, towns and actually reached 'civilization' in a classical sense we had moved away from such ideals, many of us kept slaves. So yes Russia was the first 'communist' country or 'ulta socialist' as many communists have told me to call it.

[Neo-Sincostan]

The inventor of communism= Karl Marx

The communist to have the biggest effect on the world= Lenin

For the mother of god. Do you people even read the posts in the thread?

[The Canadian People]

Communism in name was established by Karl Marx, although I wouldn't doubt that similar concepts existed prior to its conception.

You are quite right. Even the Greeks had concepts similar to Communism. Plato, for instance, in his most famous work "The Republic" discusses ideas very similar to modern Communism.

[Aethelstania]

oh can I request this thread is locked moderators ... do we really need more threads of people not agreeing on what communism is ! vehement anti communists the cold war isn't on anymore appreciate intellectual types will speculate a dream of a truly just society from time to time, calm the fuck down and listen to what they say (they may say something you like) . Hard core communists can you all get together and define what communism is ... agree on that, then realize you really are a minority, then also realize the cold war is over ... and you are no longer oppressed / banned / hated you tend to be (unfairly perhaps) ignored. As people know communism really is just a bit silly

peace and love and freedom and tolerance Y'all !

[Greater Mackonia]

Marx did indeed create the basic theory but there had been ideas about wealth re-distribution centuries befor the manifesto and Das Kapital.

[Super Bwitain]

oh can I request this thread is locked moderators ... do we really need more threads of people not agreeing on what communism is ! vehement anti communists the cold war isn't on anymore appreciate intellectual types will speculate a dream of a truly just society from time to time, calm the fuck down and listen to what they say (they may say something you like) . Hard core communists can you all get together and define what communism is ... agree on that, then realize you really are a minority, then also realize the cold war is over ... and you are no longer oppressed / banned / hated you tend to be (unfairly perhaps) ignored. As people know communism really is just a bit silly

peace and love and freedom and tolerance Y'all !

If you want the thread locked, report it in Moderation.

[Socialist States Owen]

Didn't Engels work with Marx exstensively?

[Katganistan]

Well, let's take it from the horse's mouth itself, shall we:

"The theory of the Communism may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."

I support as much. If you're going to accordingly claim I'm not a (Marxist) Communist, then you're being fallacious, as Marx himself defined it accordingly.

You're an idiot.

Find another way to disagree. Name-calling isn't a valid one.

[Carabia]

You're an idiot.

Find another way to disagree. Name-calling isn't a valid one.

Maybe not to you.But to me,name-calling is adctually recommended

[Super Bwitain]

Find another way to disagree. Name-calling isn't a valid one.

Maybe not to you.But to me,name-calling is adctually recommended

Well, you'll probably have a short stay on the forums.

You do realise that Kat is a Moderator right?

[Mariana-Petria]

Communism has been around a lot longer than Karl Marx's theories. No, I won't back this up.

[Fedeledland]

Modern communism, yes. There were proto-communist civilisations before (Incas and Mazdakists come to mind)

[Keronians]

Him and Engels, yes.

[Socialdemokraterne]

Contrary to popular belief, communism was invented by Groucho Marx. Karl Marx, the 4th brother, was so desperate for attention that he stole the idea and claimed it to be his own. It wasn't until 2008, when Karl's own journal entries were discovered by historians, that this theory was proven.

Nonsense! Recent investigations of the writings of Harpo Marx indicate that he had conceived of the idea a full decade before Groucho.

[Trotskylvania]

Contrary to popular belief, communism was invented by Groucho Marx. Karl Marx, the 4th brother, was so desperate for attention that he stole the idea and claimed it to be his own. It wasn't until 2008, when Karl's own journal entries were discovered by historians, that this theory was proven.

Nonsense! Recent investigations of the writings of Harpo Marx indicate that he had conceived of the idea a full decade before Groucho.

Actually, guys, I invented it. You see, I'm an immortal, and I've masqueraded under various identities throughout human history. Back around 1840 I started growing a beard and didn't stop.

[Socialdemokraterne]

Nonsense! Recent investigations of the writings of Harpo Marx indicate that he had conceived of the idea a full decade before Groucho.

Actually, guys, I invented it. You see, I'm an immortal, and I've masqueraded under various identities throughout human history. Back around 1840 I started growing a beard and didn't stop.

So which member of ZZ Top are you again?

[Neo-Sincostan]

You're an idiot.

Find another way to disagree. Name-calling isn't a valid one.

Mods I ain't even mad. From whence do you derive your authority to define what is "valid" and what is not?
"Alas," they will cry "from the forum rules!"
"And from where does their authority spring then? Why, it would seem that the definition of validity may be as subjective as one so may please!"

Thus spoke Shizzle-mah-nizzlethustra.

[Trotskylvania]

Actually, guys, I invented it. You see, I'm an immortal, and I've masqueraded under various identities throughout human history. Back around 1840 I started growing a beard and didn't stop.

So which member of ZZ Top are you again?

Dusty Hill, cuz every girl crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man

[The Pretend Pub]

So which member of ZZ Top are you again?

Dusty Hill, cuz every girl crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man

Even the ones in that shack outside La Grange?

[Katganistan]

Find another way to disagree. Name-calling isn't a valid one.

Mods I ain't even mad. From whence do you derive your authority to define what is "valid" and what is not?

From the guy wot pays dah bills, knowhutImean?

[Neo-Sincostan]

Mods I ain't even mad. From whence do you derive your authority to define what is "valid" and what is not?

From the guy wot pays dah bills, knowhutImean?

Herpa derpa monies.
You missed out the rest of that post, it was better with that added ):
Besides that just proved my point. You're being paid to enforce a subjective opinion of what is "vaild" :3

[Natapoc]

Lately,communism has been getting alot of hate.Also,people say[even textbooks]that Karl Marx founded it.However,a thought has come to me:did he really found communism?Was it really Russia who was first to become communist?If you really think about it,anciet civilizations did the same.So my question is,was Russia really the first communist country,or has the idea been around since the beginning of civilization?

Well Communism that we know today was invented by Marx. Primitive society and hunter gatherers where communist in the sense that they shared out food and responsibilities and so, but where they communist in practice ? they where ruled over generally by a chief or king so where pretty despotic. Once we had settled and developed roads, towns and actually reached 'civilization' in a classical sense we had moved away from such ideals, many of us kept slaves. So yes Russia was the first 'communist' country or 'ulta socialist' as many communists have told me to call it.

No. They were not ruled over by chiefs or kings. That came later in chiefdom and other post tribal societies.

And no Russia was not communist and not even very socialist.

[Shazbotdom]

From the guy wot pays dah bills, knowhutImean?

Herpa derpa monies.
You missed out the rest of that post, it was better with that added ):
Besides that just proved my point. You're being paid to enforce a subjective opinion of what is "vaild" :3

The mods aren't paid. And the fact that you are baiting a mod doesn't look good for you.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

From the guy wot pays dah bills, knowhutImean?

Herpa derpa monies.
You missed out the rest of that post, it was better with that added ):
Besides that just proved my point. You're being paid to enforce a subjective opinion of what is "vaild" :3

Actually, we aren't being paid. And you aren't paying to make this site available. The site owner is. And what he says goes.

And speaking of going, for the continued threadjack, *** 1-day ban *** to reconsider your continued efforts here, and to perhaps brush up on those rules you seem to so flippantly want to disregard.

Back on topic please, folks. Thanks.

[Cavalstan]

Maybe not to you.But to me,name-calling is adctually recommended

Well, you'll probably have a short stay on the forums.

You do realise that Kat is a Moderator right?

Who's Kat?