AR-15

[Gun Manufacturers]

Yes it is. Gun registration is the first step towards gun confiscation.

Actually, gun manufacture is the first step towards gun confiscation.

Lolwut?

[Blazedtown]

That's why the death penalty should be applied to every premeditated murder.

*rubs forehead*

I'm not even going to try and reason with you now. You're one of those people who don't seem to understand the implications of creating a guaranteed death penalty for any crime.

You made a ridiculous statement about convicted murders and assault rifles, so I gave you a ridiculous statement right back. Convicted criminals should not be able to own firearms. They lose that right, along with the right to vote in most states.

[Neo Arcad]

How else to ensure that people are keeping and reading proper government approved literature than to hold them to account by some licensing or registration authority?

That's got to be the worst comparison I've seen in quite some time. Guns are very dangerous, and used improperly can easily kill or maim. Reading books isn't going to put any holes in people.

But hey, whatever, pretend I'm an evil priest of the Church of Statan if it makes you feel better about making poor arguments.

*slow clap*
That was a fairly well-executed dodge there. You almost got away with it.

[Mad Monarch]

*rubs forehead*

I'm not even going to try and reason with you now. You're one of those people who don't seem to understand the implications of creating a guaranteed death penalty for any crime.

You made a ridiculous statement about convicted murders and assault rifles. Convicted criminals should not be able to own firearms. They lose that right, along with the right to vote in most states.

Which is the main point of gun licensing. To stop convicted felons and the severely mentally ill from getting weapons.

And like I said, some states have taken it to the extremes. We need a more happy medium between Massachusetts and Florida's systems.

[Blazedtown]

How else to ensure that people are keeping and reading proper government approved literature than to hold them to account by some licensing or registration authority?

That's got to be the worst comparison I've seen in quite some time. Guns are very dangerous, and used improperly can easily kill or maim. Reading books isn't going to put any holes in people.

But hey, whatever, pretend I'm an evil priest of the Church of Statan if it makes you feel better about making poor arguments.

The point I was making was that the 2nd Amendment is just as important as the 1st.

[Ifreann]

Actually, gun manufacture is the first step towards gun confiscation.

Lolwut?

You have to build them before anyone can confiscate them.

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That's got to be the worst comparison I've seen in quite some time. Guns are very dangerous, and used improperly can easily kill or maim. Reading books isn't going to put any holes in people.

But hey, whatever, pretend I'm an evil priest of the Church of Statan if it makes you feel better about making poor arguments.

*slow clap*
That was a fairly well-executed dodge there. You almost got away with it.

I'm sorry, dodge? What dodge?

[Asyrica]

Cool! You're pretty lucky, lol. I haven't got any military-grade rifles. The only gun I really own is a break-action single-shot hunting rifle; but it's in .223 Remi nonetheless. My father, however, has something of a collection of firearms, one of which is his Cold War M16A2. I've shot the M16 in the past, and it's quite a nice gun.

My best friend recently bought an SKS; he already had a Moisin-Nagant, but it was somewhat big and unwieldy in his opinion (he's pretty short) and he wanted something that could fire the 7.62x39mm round. I haven't got a chance to see the SKS, but the Nagant is pretty sweet. Both of those guns are Curio and Relic firearms, so it's easier to have them since it requires less constitutionally-questionable bureaucracy and red tape. I'm something of a gun enthusiast, and I like to go shooting, but my single-shot rifle isn't the best for that, even though I can mount a scope on it. So I've been thinking about purchasing something along the lines of an SKS or something. Anyone have any suggestions?

SKS for pure fun and cheapness, though it's by no means an incredibly superb gun for much else. If you want to hunt, or target shoot seirously, get a bolt action, as you can get better accuracy on average. And SKS wise, don't bother with a scope unless you find one on the side of the road. You will 1. Spend more money for the optic than the gun, and 2. Find that the gun isn't that inherintly accurate to begin with.

If you've shot your dad's 16, you'll know that semi-auto is alot more fun, but you'll definately spend more money if you want something high-quality than for a compartive BA.

[Blazedtown]

You made a ridiculous statement about convicted murders and assault rifles. Convicted criminals should not be able to own firearms. They lose that right, along with the right to vote in most states.

Which is the main point of gun licensing. To stop convicted felons and the severely mentally ill from getting weapons.

And like I said, some states have taken it to the extremes. We need a more happy medium between Massachusetts and Florida's systems.

The checks we have in place work just fine.

[Mosasauria]

I'd like to remind everyone what this thread is about.
It's about this.
Of course, from that, we can talk about all the derivatives of it, both military and civilian, but that's what this thread's mainly about.

[Wikipedia and Universe]

...Obama tries to make them illegal again (since he is against gun ownership).

I don't know who fed you that bullshit, but that's exactly what it is. Sure, he wants to reinstate the FAWB, and that's one of my main few points of contention with him, but he is not against all gun ownership, and one man certainly can't just wave his hand and outlaw it. To be honest, you sound like one of those arsehurt Obamaphobes from 2008 and early 2009. I would know, I used to be one.

[Mad Monarch]

Which is the main point of gun licensing. To stop convicted felons and the severely mentally ill from getting weapons.

And like I said, some states have taken it to the extremes. We need a more happy medium between Massachusetts and Florida's systems.

The checks we have in place work just fine.

Ergo, gun licensing. Glad to know we are on the same page.

[Blazedtown]

The checks we have in place work just fine.

Ergo, gun licensing. Glad to know we are on the same page.

I'm talking about the background check you get when you buy a gun. Not licensing.

[Mad Monarch]

Ergo, gun licensing. Glad to know we are on the same page.

I'm talking about the background check you get when you buy a gun. Not licensing.

The current system requires a license so you don't end up emptying a clip by accident as well as the background checks.

[Ifreann]

That's got to be the worst comparison I've seen in quite some time. Guns are very dangerous, and used improperly can easily kill or maim. Reading books isn't going to put any holes in people.

But hey, whatever, pretend I'm an evil priest of the Church of Statan if it makes you feel better about making poor arguments.

The point I was making was that the 2nd Amendment is just as important as the 1st.

I see.

You might well think that, but those two things both being in your constitution is no argument that they are, in fact, equally important. Well, outside the context of US law, obviously the entire constitution has equal weight in that sense.

[SD_Film Artists]

People use AR-15's around here all the time Deer hunting / Coyote Hunting

Ohh and forgot to mention its a Semi Automatic since you need a license for a AR-16 Full Automatic

Aright then.

Semi-Automatic is fine with me.

Indeed, semi-auto is much more practical.

Not that I can get one, as I'm British...

[Blazedtown]

I'm talking about the background check you get when you buy a gun. Not licensing.

The current system requires a license so you don't end up emptying a clip by accident as well as the background checks.

That's one thing I can't stand. People calling a magazine a clip. Shows a total ignorance of firearms.

[Gun Manufacturers]

I wouldn't mind having one, but I'd much prefer some other rifle. Mostly because AR-15 pattern rifles are far too mainstream, and I'm too hip for one.
I'd much prefer an FN FS2000.

You could get an AR57 upper for an AR15 lower. Up to 50 rounds of 5.7x28mm ammo, with FN P90 magazines (and spent shells ejecting out of the magwell of the lower).

[Blazedtown]

The point I was making was that the 2nd Amendment is just as important as the 1st.

I see.

You might well think that, but those two things both being in your constitution is no argument that they are, in fact, equally important. Well, outside the context of US law, obviously the entire constitution has equal weight in that sense.

All human rights are equal.

[Mad Monarch]

The current system requires a license so you don't end up emptying a clip by accident as well as the background checks.

That's one thing I can't stand. People calling a magazine a clip. Shows a total ignorance of firearms.

Never took a class in my life. I'm liking archery myself.

But that actually reinforces my point. People are ignorant of guns. That's why they must prove their knowledge (or, in the case of Florida, fill out the answers that are being dictated to you) before being trusted with owning a gun.

[Mosasauria]

I wouldn't mind having one, but I'd much prefer some other rifle. Mostly because AR-15 pattern rifles are far too mainstream, and I'm too hip for one.
I'd much prefer an FN FS2000.

You could get an AR57 upper for an AR15 lower. Up to 50 rounds of 5.7x28mm ammo, with FN P90 magazines (and spent shells ejecting out of the magwell of the lower).

Meh. I'm not exactly partial to the P90 or 5.7mm.

[Asyrica]

That's one thing I can't stand. People calling a magazine a clip. Shows a total ignorance of firearms.

Never took a class in my life. I'm liking archery myself.

But that actually reinforces my point. People are ignorant of guns. That's why they must prove their knowledge (or, in the case of Florida, fill out the answers that are being dictated to you) before being trusted with owning a gun.

In an effort to get this thread off the topic of gun politics, and back onto the topic of projectile weapons and how cool they are:

Can you explain to me how rail systems work with bows? Wikipedia specifically mentions picatinny rails are sometimes bow-mounted, and I don't know enough about archery to see how that works.

[Mad Monarch]

Never took a class in my life. I'm liking archery myself.

But that actually reinforces my point. People are ignorant of guns. That's why they must prove their knowledge (or, in the case of Florida, fill out the answers that are being dictated to you) before being trusted with owning a gun.

In an effort to get this thread off the topic of gun politics, and back onto the topic of projectile weapons and how cool they are:

Can you explain to me how rail systems work with bows? Wikipedia specifically mentions picatinny rails are sometimes bow-mounted, and I don't know enough about archery to see how that works.

bow mounted? I think you are thinking crossbows. All I've ever seen is a dot sight (basically a range finder) and peep sights (a ring put into your string that you line up with your dot sight when aiming).

Crossbows tend to have the more high tech sights like scopes and laser dot sights.

[The Realm of God]

Just bought myself a AR-15 yesterday love it

Was wondering if anyone else has one or is getting one?? Ohh and i bought mine before dumbass obama tries to make them illegal again (since he is against gun ownership)

Also wondering what guns everyone owns as well

Meh. Your Choice.

I like AKs better there is a reason there the planets most popular weapon.

[Mosasauria]

Just bought myself a AR-15 yesterday love it

Was wondering if anyone else has one or is getting one?? Ohh and i bought mine before dumbass obama tries to make them illegal again (since he is against gun ownership)

Also wondering what guns everyone owns as well

Meh. Your Choice.

I like AKs better there is a reason there the planets most popular weapon.

I'm tempted to be an AK-Nazi here...
The only reason they're used so much is due to how cheap they are.

[Asyrica]

In an effort to get this thread off the topic of gun politics, and back onto the topic of projectile weapons and how cool they are:

Can you explain to me how rail systems work with bows? Wikipedia specifically mentions picatinny rails are sometimes bow-mounted, and I don't know enough about archery to see how that works.

bow mounted? I think you are thinking crossbows. All I've ever seen is a dot sight (basically a range finder) and peep sights (a ring put into your string that you line up with your dot sight when aiming).

Crossbows tend to have the more high tech sights like scopes and laser dot sights.

Ah, that makes alot more sense. I'd forgotten about crossbows. I'd had this image of an old-style yew longbow with an AGOG mounted on it in my head, and it just didn't seem quite right to me.