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Should unmarried people have the same rights as married ppl?

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Should inheritance tax rights be extended to unmarried people?

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No
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Should unmarried people have the same rights as married ppl?

Postby Antebellum South » Fri May 29, 2009 1:21 pm

Heterosexual married couples enjoy certain financial benefits such as exemptions from the inheritance tax. This is one of the rights and benefits of marriage in the US fought for by homosexual couples. However, unmarried people are unable to transmit their assets to other individuals without gigantic inheritance tax penalties. Do you believe inheritance tax cuts should be extended to unmarried people? Do you believe it is right to use government legislation to create economic pressure against the single and/or unmarried life?

Sorry for the abbreviation in the thread title.. space limitations.
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Re: Should unmarried people have the same rights as married ppl?

Postby Galloism » Fri May 29, 2009 1:22 pm

Antebellum South wrote:Heterosexual married couples enjoy certain financial benefits such as exemption from the inheritance tax.


:blink:

No they don't. They do get certain bonuses and exemptions, but that one ain't one of em.
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Postby Antebellum South » Fri May 29, 2009 1:27 pm

Fixed.

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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Fri May 29, 2009 1:28 pm

Galloism wrote:
Antebellum South wrote:Heterosexual married couples enjoy certain financial benefits such as exemption from the inheritance tax.


:blink:

No they don't. They do get certain bonuses and exemptions, but that one ain't one of em.
I don't think anyone gets exempted from that tax. :blink:

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Postby Galloism » Fri May 29, 2009 1:28 pm

Antebellum South wrote:Fixed.


Poll lacks a "Wtf?" option.
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Postby Galloism » Fri May 29, 2009 1:29 pm

Gauntleted Fist wrote:I don't think anyone gets exempted from that tax. :blink:


Under current law, $3.5 million this year. Any estate worth less than that doesn't even have to fill out the form.
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Fri May 29, 2009 1:30 pm

Galloism wrote:Under current law, $3.5 million this year. Any estate worth less than that doesn't even have to fill out the form.
My statement could have been worded better, yes.

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Postby Galloism » Fri May 29, 2009 1:31 pm

Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Galloism wrote:Under current law, $3.5 million this year. Any estate worth less than that doesn't even have to fill out the form.
My statement could have been worded better, yes.


Well, I just factually correct things out of habit.

By the way, that doesn't change regardless of marital status of the deceased or the recipient, so I have no idea what this thread is about.
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New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Farnhamia Redux » Fri May 29, 2009 1:34 pm

Galloism wrote:
Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Galloism wrote:Under current law, $3.5 million this year. Any estate worth less than that doesn't even have to fill out the form.
My statement could have been worded better, yes.


Well, I just factually correct things out of habit.

By the way, that doesn't change regardless of marital status of the deceased or the recipient, so I have no idea what this thread is about.

Good point. When you inherit something from your spouse, you are - not even technically - single.
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Postby Galloism » Fri May 29, 2009 1:38 pm

Farnhamia Redux wrote:Good point. When you inherit something from your spouse, you are - not even technically - single.


Technically, you're married until the end of the year in which your spouse died.

WTF thing of the day:

If your spouse dies in the middle of the year, you can consider yourself married to your spouse for the whole year, and file a joint tax return. You must write "Deceased" in the signature line.

If your spouse dies and you get remarried before the end of the year, you are considered married to your new spouse for filing purposes, but your dead spouse is still considered married to you. Therefore, you should file married filing joint with your new spouse, while the dead one has to file married filing separately - not single.

This is the only case where one spouse can itemize deductions without affecting the tax return of the other spouse. If you itemize, then your dead spouse must also itemize. However, if your dead spouse itemizes, you do not have to itemize.

Ah, I love discussing tax law in the morning.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Cameroi » Fri May 29, 2009 1:42 pm

pretty much, and i think they mostly do. depends on which rights in what context we're talking about.
this is one of those places where what rights are right is massively context dependent.

rights to name beneficiaries, rights to have sex between consenting adults, rights to share living arrangements. sure. visitation rights under unusual conditions; well sometimes there's a real extreme need for some sort of filtering.

i guess it depends on what part of what world we're talking about too.

in some mundane world places rights ARE almost exactly the same, and in others they are extremely different.
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Postby Dolbri » Fri May 29, 2009 1:43 pm

Galloism wrote:
Farnhamia Redux wrote:Good point. When you inherit something from your spouse, you are - not even technically - single.


Technically, you're married until the end of the year in which your spouse died.

WTF thing of the day:

If your spouse dies in the middle of the year, you can consider yourself married to your spouse for the whole year, and file a joint tax return. You must write "Deceased" in the signature line.

If your spouse dies and you get remarried before the end of the year, you are considered married to your new spouse for filing purposes, but your dead spouse is still considered married to you. Therefore, you should file married filing joint with your new spouse, while the dead one has to file married filing separately - not single.

This is the only case where one spouse can itemize deductions without affecting the tax return of the other spouse. If you itemize, then your dead spouse must also itemize. However, if your dead spouse itemizes, you do not have to itemize.

Ah, I love discussing tax law in the morning.

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Postby Galloism » Fri May 29, 2009 1:56 pm

Dolbri wrote:After reading this, I think I prefer the smell of napalm.


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Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby South East Europe » Fri May 29, 2009 1:59 pm

We really don't need another thread when there is already an active thread on this forum discussing the same exact issue.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri May 29, 2009 2:07 pm

South East Europe wrote:We really don't need another thread when there is already an active thread on this forum discussing the same exact issue.

There is? Where?
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