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[Cannot think of a name]

Ya know, you could visit Ryadn and CToaN while you're at it.

Meh, those guys are jerks.

[Straughn]

Ya know, you could visit Ryadn and CToaN while you're at it.

Meh, those guys are jerks.

What are they ... geese, or something?

[Cannot think of a name]

Ya know, you could visit Ryadn and CToaN while you're at it.

Meh, those guys are jerks.

What are they ... geese, or something?

Quality

[Straughn]

Quality

I can't believe how much of the thread gotten eaten up last time that got brought up.

So how is it down there these days? Any good property, clubs, passtimes, that kinda thing, so we can get some more pix of y'all out on the town, as it were?

[Cannot think of a name]

Quality

I can't believe how much of the thread gotten eaten up last time that got brought up.

So how is it down there these days? Any good property, clubs, passtimes, that kinda thing, so we can get some more pix of y'all out on the town, as it were?

It's raining, which is weird but needed, properties in Oakland are extra cheap now but you have to live in bootsy Oakland, four people have been shot in the last couple days in Richmond, including a ticket booth agent on the Richmond bridge, a friend of mine was playing a pretty cool club last Sunday but I didn't find out until after I had seen a lackluster movie instead, I should be working on my San Francisco project I started eight months ago but I'm not, and pictures of me are forboden, but I did take a bunch of pictures of my bus, including one of tourists taking a picture standing next to her.

[Straughn]

It's raining, which is weird but needed, properties in Oakland are extra cheap now but you have to live in bootsy Oakland, four people have been shot in the last couple days in Richmond, including a ticket booth agent on the Richmond bridge, a friend of mine was playing a pretty cool club last Sunday but I didn't find out until after I had seen a lackluster movie instead, I should be working on my San Francisco project I started eight months ago but I'm not, and pictures of me are forboden, but I did take a bunch of pictures of my bus, including one of tourists taking a picture standing next to her.

Discovery Channel's made mention of Oakland of late (which oddly doesn't conflict with my previous understanding of the place, which is much to Ryadn's chagrin, iirc) ... what movie?
A good project would be a Tawny Kitaen-esque photo shoot with Ryadn, WYTYG, and your bus. *nods emphatically*
What SF project?

[Sarkhaan]

Ya know, you could visit Ryadn and CToaN while you're at it.

Hah...I just might stalk them down. They could be the west-coast Neo Art and Muravyets.

[Czardas]

A fairly well-respected school, someplace in the United Kingdom. I may get more specific at a later date if I feel like it, but I tend to be a little bit paranoid about sharing my personal details online.

Understood. Actually, I was only really interested in the country.

Aye. I'd pretty much have to go to an English-speaking country, since all of my attempts to learn other languages ended in "some reading knowledge only" at best.

[Barzan]

A fairly well-respected school, someplace in the United Kingdom. I may get more specific at a later date if I feel like it, but I tend to be a little bit paranoid about sharing my personal details online.

Understood. Actually, I was only really interested in the country.

Aye. I'd pretty much have to go to an English-speaking country, since all of my attempts to learn other languages ended in "some reading knowledge only" at best.

Aye, but you only really learn the language by being in the country that speaks the language. No one is a fluent speaker without being scared shit-lees by being dumped in the middle of it.

[Ryadn]

Quality

I can't believe how much of the thread gotten eaten up last time that got brought up.

So how is it down there these days? Any good property, clubs, passtimes, that kinda thing, so we can get some more pix of y'all out on the town, as it were?

Just got back from the bleachers of AT&T Park, hanging with friends and watching Lincecum wipe the field with the Rockies' lineup. Property prices are still downish, but picking back up, possibly, depending on who you ask. Preseason hockey game this Friday, then a gay club Saturday with my best friend, because we both need to get properly on the market again. Still broke. And now to Jane with the weather report---

[Ryadn]

Ya know, you could visit Ryadn and CToaN while you're at it.

Hah...I just might stalk them down. They could be the west-coast Neo Art and Muravyets.

Dude... don't put that kind of pressure on me!

[Straughn]

Quality

I can't believe how much of the thread gotten eaten up last time that got brought up.

So how is it down there these days? Any good property, clubs, passtimes, that kinda thing, so we can get some more pix of y'all out on the town, as it were?

Just got back from the bleachers of AT&T Park, hanging with friends and watching Lincecum wipe the field with the Rockies' lineup. Property prices are still downish, but picking back up, possibly, depending on who you ask. Preseason hockey game this Friday, then a gay club Saturday with my best friend, because we both need to get properly on the market again. Still broke. And now to Jane with the weather report---

...Jane, from "Coupling"?
Sounds like there's plenty to do. Are you up to touring Sarky around, if said situation presented itself?

[Sarkhaan]

Ya know, you could visit Ryadn and CToaN while you're at it.

Hah...I just might stalk them down. They could be the west-coast Neo Art and Muravyets.

Dude... don't put that kind of pressure on me!

haha...really, all you'd have to do is be smart and entertaining. And I'm easily amused.

Quality

I can't believe how much of the thread gotten eaten up last time that got brought up.

So how is it down there these days? Any good property, clubs, passtimes, that kinda thing, so we can get some more pix of y'all out on the town, as it were?

Just got back from the bleachers of AT&T Park, hanging with friends and watching Lincecum wipe the field with the Rockies' lineup. Property prices are still downish, but picking back up, possibly, depending on who you ask. Preseason hockey game this Friday, then a gay club Saturday with my best friend, because we both need to get properly on the market again. Still broke. And now to Jane with the weather report---

...Jane, from "Coupling"?
Sounds like there's plenty to do. Are you up to touring Sarky around, if said situation presented itself?

haha...again, as anyone should know, I'm easily amused. Give me a good trail to hike, and I'm golden for six months.

[Ryadn]

haha...really, all you'd have to do is be smart and entertaining. And I'm easily amused.

...I fail to be reassured.

haha...again, as anyone should know, I'm easily amused. Give me a good trail to hike, and I'm golden for six months.

I can show you some sea lions, buy you carnitas tacos and Berkeley-brewed Pilsner, and take you to a 100+ ft climbing tree?

I don't think you'll have any trouble finding trails to hike.

[Ryadn]

We have a Richmond too, and I only go there to get to the airport. (Some people think China may try to annex Richmond.) I've actually been to Richmond, California as well. It didn't seem to be anything special -- neither good nor bad.

Richmond, CA is notable for its homicide rate. In fact, homicide is the third leading cause of death of male residents of the city. In 2006 there were 42 murders in the city of 100,000 people.

My god! I don't think we have that many homicides in the entire country! Our Richmond is just a lame-ass suburban "city". (The new rail line should help to make it less of a suburban backwater now that it's open.)

What on earth is wrong with your Richmond that makes it so violent and dangerous?

Another shooting in Richmond--the homicide toll is now at 40 for the year, and it's only mid-September.

[Sarkhaan]

haha...really, all you'd have to do is be smart and entertaining. And I'm easily amused.

...I fail to be reassured.

haha...again, as anyone should know, I'm easily amused. Give me a good trail to hike, and I'm golden for six months.

I can show you some sea lions, buy you carnitas tacos and Berkeley-brewed Pilsner, and take you to a 100+ ft climbing tree?

I don't think you'll have any trouble finding trails to hike.

...tacos, beer, and a huge climbing tree?

You had me at hello.

[Barzan]

Okay Ryadn and Sarkhaan, what are the good neighbourhoods to live in in San Francisco and Boston? I'm looking for middle class, educated, but not yuppie, hipster, soccer dad/mum, or pretentious posturing rich douche-bag. Maybe a mix of older uni students, post-grad or co-op upper-level, young couples, educated yet modest non-hipster types, etc. Anywhere that you can live without a car is a must, and I'd like to be able to walk to pubs, restaurants, green grocers, supermarkets, branch banks, cinemas, coffee shops, "Cheers" type hangouts, bookstores, used bookstores, computer stores, etc. Also, access to a frequent transit network is important (i.e. the ability to catch a train or bus every 10 minutes or less within a 400-metre radius of my house). Basically, a neighbourhood like where I live now. Any suggestions? Oh yeah, a place where you can get a safe, clean, decent one-bedroom apartment for about 1200$ or less is important. I am assuming you two have lived some place like that.

[Czardas]

Quality

I can't believe how much of the thread gotten eaten up last time that got brought up.

So how is it down there these days? Any good property, clubs, passtimes, that kinda thing, so we can get some more pix of y'all out on the town, as it were?

Just got back from the bleachers of AT&T Park, hanging with friends and watching Lincecum wipe the field with the Rockies' lineup. Property prices are still downish, but picking back up, possibly, depending on who you ask. Preseason hockey game this Friday, then a gay club Saturday with my best friend, because we both need to get properly on the market again. Still broke. And now to Jane with the weather report---

...Jane, from "Coupling"?
Sounds like there's plenty to do. Are you up to touring Sarky around, if said situation presented itself?

haha...again, as anyone should know, I'm easily amused. Give me a good trail to hike, and I'm golden for six months.

JMT (both legs) is, what, a couple of hours from the bay area? (I'm not sure where that starts -- Yosemite or Mt. Whitney, someplace fairly well-known anyway.) You can start there. Then you can hike the PCT to Canada, if they've completed it all the way, although I'm not sure where you pick that up either. Not having ever been to California kind of limits my knowledge in that area, I'm afraid. Still, plenty of six-month(-plus) trails there, it's a big state.

[Molested Sock]

So recently, one of my best friends joined the Bostonian migration to California as one of a growing number of us suffering from Quarter Life Crisis. In talking to him his last night in New England, he said a lot of things that rang very true for me: Boston feels like it's getting smaller...we've lived here for 5, 6 years, much of it sheltered in our respective colleges, and now, the real world is catching up with us. We both lived in New England our entire lives, and while we both love it, we've never seen anything else for long periods of time. He also wants me to go out there and join him.

Sounds nice.

And for the first time, I'm considering leaving my beloved New England in favor of a new city (specifically, San Francisco).

The purpose of this thread it two-fold. First and foremost, to those of you who have made major moves...those that involve suddenly being truly away from family and friends (no longer close enough for a day trip or even a simple weekend getaway), truly leaving ones comfort zone...what made you do it? Was it worth it? What were the hardships? What were the high points? Basically, what has been your experience with a massive move?

Sadly I haven't, but hopefully AVRIO METHAVRIO...

The second purpose is directed at the Bay area NSGers...what would you say about your home, positive or negative? Is it a place that a Bostonian could come to, bright eyed, bushy-tailed, and simultaneously feel comfortable, but also like it is something new and different?

From what I've been told is that the tram system is run by Controlfreak drivers that demand you line up in a certain place, just for the sake of it.

Yeah, it's kinda bloggy, sorry. But hey, many of us have moved around quite a bit, and who knows? This thread could be a good diversion from Obamacare and teh gayz.

Don't apologise to us if you think it sounds like a blog, apologise to yourself, why should we have hangups about how you write it?
Unless we have the right to demand oyu redo this topic in non-blog format.

[Barzan]

The second purpose is directed at the Bay area NSGers...what would you say about your home, positive or negative? Is it a place that a Bostonian could come to, bright eyed, bushy-tailed, and simultaneously feel comfortable, but also like it is something new and different?

From what I've been told is that the tram system is run by Controlfreak drivers that demand you line up in a certain place, just for the sake of it.

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Someone needs to teach the people here how to queue-up for the damn bus! Better yet, how to NOT stand in the doorway when people are boarding and alighting! Gimme a good German railway conductor. That'll make it run nice and smooth for a change! "DO NOT OBSTRUCT THE CLOSING DOORS!" It delays the train you morons! There's another one coming in less than 2 minutes!

[PainsOfGod]

Join the cold we are all just dust neway and that is still ok if u believe anything in my land of gs.

[Straughn]

Join the cold we are all just dust neway and that is still ok if u believe anything in my land of gs.

Who could be cold in the land of Kari Byron?

http://img1.tvloop.com/img/showpics/ee/a6/l35ac28e90000_1_32489.jpg

Dinaverg probably has more.

[Straughn]

...a 100+ ft climbing tree?

I have a disturbing anecdote about something along those lines.

[Ryadn]

Okay Ryadn and Sarkhaan, what are the good neighbourhoods to live in in San Francisco and Boston? I'm looking for middle class, educated, but not yuppie, hipster, soccer dad/mum, or pretentious posturing rich douche-bag. Maybe a mix of older uni students, post-grad or co-op upper-level, young couples, educated yet modest non-hipster types, etc. Anywhere that you can live without a car is a must, and I'd like to be able to walk to pubs, restaurants, green grocers, supermarkets, branch banks, cinemas, coffee shops, "Cheers" type hangouts, bookstores, used bookstores, computer stores, etc. Also, access to a frequent transit network is important (i.e. the ability to catch a train or bus every 10 minutes or less within a 400-metre radius of my house). Basically, a neighbourhood like where I live now. Any suggestions? Oh yeah, a place where you can get a safe, clean, decent one-bedroom apartment for about 1200$ or less is important. I am assuming you two have lived some place like that.

Yes, I have. In magical fairy land, where the streets are full of free parking spots and the buses smell like fresh-picked daisies!

Okay, okay, let me think. Nob Hill and Russian Hill are always good starting points---mind, that's "lower" Nob Hill, not the bit they use for movie backdrops. The Polk Gulch, SF's previous "gay district" before the rise of the Castro, is still affordable and pretty nice, though home to many transvestite hookers. North Beach is always a great place to live, but gets pricey. Hayes Valley is sort of up-and-coming---a good mix of small shops, college students, artistic types and people with money. Upper Fillmore/Lower Pacific Heights is nice and has a lot of stuff to do. The Mission is this generation's Haight-Ashbury---full of twentysomethings, hipsters, artists, cool shops and restaurants, and murders.

For my money, I like North Beach or Hayes Valley. There are a TON of other neighborhoods, but they're either too expensive (the Marina), too dangerous (Hunter's Point), or I just don't know anything about them (lots of stuff to the West).

EDIT: Here's a handy map with most of the big neighborhoods marked:


You can see that most of the ones I mentioned are in the northeast--Nob Hill, North Beach, Hayes Valley, Upper Fillmore (part of the Western Addition)/Lower Pacific Heights, etc.

[Ryadn]

...a 100+ ft climbing tree?

I have a disturbing anecdote about something along those lines.

Is it suitable for children's eyes?