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What nation would you most support in case of attack?

Canada.
34
20%
Great Britain.
27
16%
Mexico.
6
4%
Israel.
19
11%
Germany.
14
8%
Japan.
8
5%
France.
6
4%
China.
5
3%
Vietnam.
4
2%
Other (please explain)
46
27%
 
Total votes : 169

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Chernobyl-Pripyat
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Postby Chernobyl-Pripyat » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:46 pm

Finland, Belarus, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Switzerland

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The Future Kingdom
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Postby The Future Kingdom » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:49 pm

look it up French hardly won any wars not even won

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Barzan
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Postby Barzan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:59 pm

Why do you only get one choice?

I'd defend any Western European country, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada against foreign enemies (former Dominions would not be considered "foreign" with regard to another former Commonwealth Dominion for this definition). I'd defend almost any nation against the Chinese, Saudis, Pakistanis, Israelis (if they attacked a Western nation), or any nut-job fanatical Muslim countries.
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Vault 10
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Postby Vault 10 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:18 pm

Pope Joan wrote:If another nation were attacked, or in danger of attack, would you support action by your nation to defend it?
[...]
So, who would you fight to defend?

Pretty much all true European allies (non-Muslim-infested) with the exception of the ex-Axis.
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Barzan
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Postby Barzan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:22 pm

Vault 10 wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:If another nation were attacked, or in danger of attack, would you support action by your nation to defend it?
[...]
So, who would you fight to defend?

Pretty much all true European allies (non-Muslim-infested) with the exception of the ex-Axis.

So who does that leave then?
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Postby Virtud Tierra » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:30 pm

Barzan wrote:
Vault 10 wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:If another nation were attacked, or in danger of attack, would you support action by your nation to defend it?
[...]
So, who would you fight to defend?

Pretty much all true European allies (non-Muslim-infested) with the exception of the ex-Axis.

So who does that leave then?


I guess the UK, Scandinavian countries (except Finland, nazi-loving bastards) and the northern bit of France. Spain, Portugal, the low countries and ah, maybe Poland?

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New Kereptica
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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:36 pm

Shahinesian States wrote:
Berzerkirs wrote:
Shahinesian States wrote:You have no right to call me an antisemite.

I'm half Arab and the Arabs are Semitic peoples.

Hating Israel doesn't make me an antisemite. It makes me a man against ZIONISM.

Not JUDAISM.

Please distinguish the two.


Would you hate Israel because it's very existance (and total pwnage of A-rab states) defies your religious text (I'd have harsher terms such as rag, but I think that's against the rules) commonly known today as the Quran?


No. Don't be a discriminative douche.
I hate Israel because they
DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST ON PALESTINIAN LAND


Hebrews were there over 2,000 years before Islam even existed.
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Postby Natapoc » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:43 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
Shahinesian States wrote:
Berzerkirs wrote:
Shahinesian States wrote:You have no right to call me an antisemite.

I'm half Arab and the Arabs are Semitic peoples.

Hating Israel doesn't make me an antisemite. It makes me a man against ZIONISM.

Not JUDAISM.

Please distinguish the two.


Would you hate Israel because it's very existance (and total pwnage of A-rab states) defies your religious text (I'd have harsher terms such as rag, but I think that's against the rules) commonly known today as the Quran?


No. Don't be a discriminative douche.
I hate Israel because they
DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST ON PALESTINIAN LAND


Hebrews were there over 2,000 years before Islam even existed.


Very true. Longer then that even. Everyone: Hebrew or Arab has the right to exist where they are. We are all the same. Remember we all came out of Africa. We are all Africans from a small group of 5000 or so. Your ancestors are my ancestors.

I hope one day we can all see this and stop the hate.
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Postby Lizardiar » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:54 pm

Ireland! If they were in danger to them my nation's military would go!
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:59 pm

New Kereptica wrote:Hebrews were there over 2,000 years before Islam even existed.


Yes... but if I remember that story right, someone else already had a prior claim before them.
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Lizardiar
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Postby Lizardiar » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:59 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:Hebrews were there over 2,000 years before Islam even existed.


Yes... but if I remember that story right, someone else already had a prior claim before them.


Canaanites?
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New Kereptica
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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:06 pm

Lizardiar wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:Hebrews were there over 2,000 years before Islam even existed.


Yes... but if I remember that story right, someone else already had a prior claim before them.


Canaanites?


Those guys invaded in about 3,000 BCE. There were people there before them.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:15 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
Lizardiar wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:Hebrews were there over 2,000 years before Islam even existed.


Yes... but if I remember that story right, someone else already had a prior claim before them.


Canaanites?


Those guys invaded in about 3,000 BCE. There were people there before them.


So, it's almost like the area has a history of changing hands, and no one has a very good claim on 'historical' ownership?
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New Kereptica
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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:16 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Lizardiar wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:Hebrews were there over 2,000 years before Islam even existed.


Yes... but if I remember that story right, someone else already had a prior claim before them.


Canaanites?


Those guys invaded in about 3,000 BCE. There were people there before them.


So, it's almost like the area has a history of changing hands, and no one has a very good claim on 'historical' ownership?


Exactly. No more than anyone can claim on any piece of land, really.
Last edited by New Kereptica on Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.

Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.

JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.

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Postby Verlorenen » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:18 pm

UK

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Brachyuria
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Postby Brachyuria » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:19 pm

The Future Kingdom wrote:
Brachyuria wrote:My nation wouldn't be much help in most instances, if the nation in question was not able to defend itself from the attackers, chances are my much smaller nation would fare even worse.

But still, I would support helping the following nations, in order of most support-y-ness:

-Scotland (If it broke free of England in a violent coup)
-Poland (It's suffered enough)
-Ireland (Also has suffered enough)
-Denmark
-The rest of the UK
-Canada
-Norway
-Iceland
-Luxembourg (Because you probably haven't even heard of it, and someone needs to protect it)
-Nicaragua (I like the name)
-And maybe Australia (But they'd have to sign a "no more sheep jokes" agreement first)

Everyone else can go die in a hole for all I care.
Especially you, democratic republic of the Congo.
You know what you did.


who has not heard of Luxemburg thats where the 3rd statue of liberty sits
wow you will support Nicaragua a COMMUNIST NATION (Communist = EVIL)


I couldn't care less about statues of liberty, and as such was not aware that Luxembourg had one.
In light of this, and the fact that it seems that others may now be considering protecting it, I shall replace Luxembourg with another country.

Uh... Estonia?
Wait no, Lithuania, that one has a cooler name.

As for Nicaragua and it's communist ways, I maintain that I chose to support the nation on the grounds of it having a fairly cool name.
And a quick trip to wikipedia reveals that Nicaragua is actually a Republic, though the ability look it up on the internet by no means makes me an expert.


Edit:

Looked it up, the third statue of Liberty is actually in Brazil apparently.

The first statue of Liberty is in Luxembourg, but the Luxembourg in question is the city in France, not the country.
So forget that stuff about changing it to Lithuania, Luxembourg it remains.
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Thethunderdome
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Postby Thethunderdome » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:22 pm

NATO + Japan, Taiwan, India, and Pakistan
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Barzan
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Postby Barzan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:36 pm

Virtud Tierra wrote:
Barzan wrote:
Vault 10 wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:If another nation were attacked, or in danger of attack, would you support action by your nation to defend it?
[...]
So, who would you fight to defend?

Pretty much all true European allies (non-Muslim-infested) with the exception of the ex-Axis.

So who does that leave then?


I guess the UK, Scandinavian countries (except Finland, nazi-loving bastards) and the northern bit of France. Spain, Portugal, the low countries and ah, maybe Poland?

I wouldn't call Poland an Ally even in the broadest sense of the word. Spain and Portugal were not involved with the war because they were too busy running their own Fascist dictatorships. That pretty much leaves you with only the UK and France -- unless you consider Russia to be in Europe.
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Pope Joan
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Postby Pope Joan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:12 pm

Barzan wrote:Why do you only get one choice?


Because i don't know how to make multiple-option polls?
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Barzan
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Postby Barzan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:15 pm

Pope Joan wrote:
Barzan wrote:Why do you only get one choice?


Because i don't know how to make multiple-option polls?

Ah. Fair enough.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:19 pm

Brogavia wrote:Canada, and Australlia, NATO allies other than France, UK, and Italy.


I have to ask the question, why not the UK?

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Barzan
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Postby Barzan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:19 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Brogavia wrote:Canada, and Australlia, NATO allies other than France, UK, and Italy.


I have to ask the question, why not the UK?

Yeah, why the US but not the UK?
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Postby Kim Jong-ilia » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:26 pm

Australia and I guess New Zealand as well.
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Postby Itzaygix » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:30 pm

Antarctica. :D

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Barzan
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Postby Barzan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:34 pm

Kim Jong-Ilia wrote:Australia and I guess New Zealand as well.

What about the Democratic People's Republic? What if Juche itself were at stake? :p
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