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What nation would you most support in case of attack?

Canada.
34
20%
Great Britain.
27
16%
Mexico.
6
4%
Israel.
19
11%
Germany.
14
8%
Japan.
8
5%
France.
6
4%
China.
5
3%
Vietnam.
4
2%
Other (please explain)
46
27%
 
Total votes : 169

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Shahinesian States
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Postby Shahinesian States » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:48 pm

You have no right to call me an antisemite.

I'm half Arab and the Arabs are Semitic peoples.

Hating Israel doesn't make me an antisemite. It makes me a man against ZIONISM.

Not JUDAISM.

Please distinguish the two.
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New Heliopolis
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Postby New Heliopolis » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:48 pm

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When people are threatened I support them. When nations are threatened I don't support the nation. People should be defended (all people) no matter what nation claims them.[/quote]

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Really this. I'd defend any nation I could reasonably defend and would further my altruistic goals to do so for.
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Sanctus-Terra
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Postby Sanctus-Terra » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:49 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:It would depend entirely on the situation.

For example:

If the UK invaded France, and the French turned round and kicked the shit out of the UK - the US shouldn't step in to support the UK.

They should point, smirk, and say, "well, you did kinda ask for that".


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Ahmedica
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Postby Ahmedica » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:50 pm

The Council of Free Amedicans for Worldly Humanitarian Aid wishes all to know its belief.

To defend a per-say "nation" is to commit political suicide as all nations are run by groups of people with different agendas within their particular political time spans. To defend the Ideals of a people as a whole within their nation is humanly and politically correct. If Hitler ran America, Its people would NOT share his Ideals therefore any nation would only be serving America by serving to defend its people from Hitlers tyranny and overthrowing the government. "No man is an Island and all men must share this great planet. No Nation can be beside itself without the indifference of other nations. All nations must share a common goal to live in peace or forever face human chaos. The world will only know real peace when it becomes impossible for any given group or individual to become self serving without recognition of all other worldly interests.
As of this date, even the bought and paid for democratic government is "bought and paid for now by special interest groups which in turn are handled by corporations which bring it back to the individuals with greater power or wealth.
I would like to see a farmer from Idaho become the president. It was possible at one time..but not now. The farmers son got to go to college and now is working for the special interest groups and the farmer no longer cares about what was real way back then...his only care now is that his son is running for president.

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The Future Kingdom
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Postby The Future Kingdom » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:51 pm

hey banks are great ideas to get tons of money just look at Switzerland

(During a war is better)

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Berzerkirs
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Postby Berzerkirs » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:51 pm

Shahinesian States wrote:DEATH TO ISRAEL
DEATH TO SERBIA
DEATH TO RUSSIA
DEATH TO GREECE

LONG LIVE ALBANIA!
LONG LIVE EGYPT!


:palm: You, my anti-semitist friend, are illogical and in for a surprise when Israel kicks everyones arse out of the test of time. :rofl:
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Prusland
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Postby Prusland » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:53 pm

Deutschland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Future Kingdom
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Postby The Future Kingdom » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:53 pm

and a real frenchman cannot win a war they lost more wars than win


its a proven fact

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:54 pm

The Future Kingdom wrote:and a real frenchman cannot win a war they lost more wars than win


its a proven fact


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Happi-Land III
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Postby Happi-Land III » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:55 pm

San Marino, as long as I can defend from within. Also, the USA, Andorra, Liechtenstein, Canada, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, South Africa and Namibia.
I have a huge army, thousands of nukes, an economy of 97/100, a place in the First World and the most atheistic population in the region. And you have political correctness. Ha.

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Shahinesian States
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Postby Shahinesian States » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:55 pm

Berzerkirs wrote:
Shahinesian States wrote:DEATH TO ISRAEL
DEATH TO SERBIA
DEATH TO RUSSIA
DEATH TO GREECE

LONG LIVE ALBANIA!
LONG LIVE EGYPT!


:palm: You, my anti-semitist friend, are illogical and in for a surprise when Israel kicks everyones arse out of the test of time. :rofl:


fail, as for not knowing that an Anti Semite is someone who hates Judaism.
I don't hate Jews or Judaism. I hate the idea of Zionism.
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Kogler
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Postby Kogler » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:55 pm

The United States of America. And I have....more than once.

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Berzerkirs
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Postby Berzerkirs » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:55 pm

Shahinesian States wrote:You have no right to call me an antisemite.

I'm half Arab and the Arabs are Semitic peoples.

Hating Israel doesn't make me an antisemite. It makes me a man against ZIONISM.

Not JUDAISM.

Please distinguish the two.


Would you hate Israel because it's very existance (and total pwnage of A-rab states) defies your religious text (I'd have harsher terms such as rag, but I think that's against the rules) commonly known today as the Quran?
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Berzerkirs wrote:The Incan god of the moon jizzed on the earth, and so sprouted the grass and various other plants.
True story. ;)

I was there...I told him to freakin' clean it up...He refused, peeing thus on some of his jizz...These my friends are dandelions...

^That was for you WWIIHG! <3

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Hobbes City and Lanos
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Postby Hobbes City and Lanos » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:57 pm

what the hell, the Vactican is not on this list?
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Shahinesian States
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Postby Shahinesian States » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:57 pm

Berzerkirs wrote:
Shahinesian States wrote:You have no right to call me an antisemite.

I'm half Arab and the Arabs are Semitic peoples.

Hating Israel doesn't make me an antisemite. It makes me a man against ZIONISM.

Not JUDAISM.

Please distinguish the two.


Would you hate Israel because it's very existance (and total pwnage of A-rab states) defies your religious text (I'd have harsher terms such as rag, but I think that's against the rules) commonly known today as the Quran?


No. Don't be a discriminative douche.
I hate Israel because they
DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST ON PALESTINIAN LAND
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Gordonisia
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Postby Gordonisia » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:59 pm

Berzerkirs wrote:
Shahinesian States wrote:You have no right to call me an antisemite.

I'm half Arab and the Arabs are Semitic peoples.

Hating Israel doesn't make me an antisemite. It makes me a man against ZIONISM.

Not JUDAISM.

Please distinguish the two.


Would you hate Israel because it's very existance (and total pwnage of A-rab states) defies your religious text (I'd have harsher terms such as rag, but I think that's against the rules) commonly known today as the Quran?


I do wish we could get rid of Israel because it pisses practically everyone off, but then where would we put the israelis? Surely not America?
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Postby Natapoc » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:00 pm

Please stop the hate in here. There is nothing wrong with Islam, Christianity, Judaism and there is nothing wrong with being french, american, arab, ect. Hate accomplishes nothing but to defeat any real goals you have.
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New Heliopolis
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Postby New Heliopolis » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:00 pm

Berzerkirs wrote:
Shahinesian States wrote:You have no right to call me an antisemite.

I'm half Arab and the Arabs are Semitic peoples.

Hating Israel doesn't make me an antisemite. It makes me a man against ZIONISM.

Not JUDAISM.

Please distinguish the two.


Would you hate Israel because it's very existance (and total pwnage of A-rab states) defies your religious text (I'd have harsher terms such as rag, but I think that's against the rules) commonly known today as the Quran?


Nothing in the Qu'ran says Israel can't exist. The Qu'ran, in fact, gives Jews preferential treatment.

Also: Fatah. Your arguement falls on its face.
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Berzerkirs
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Postby Berzerkirs » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:02 pm

Shahinesian States wrote:
Berzerkirs wrote:
Shahinesian States wrote:You have no right to call me an antisemite.

I'm half Arab and the Arabs are Semitic peoples.

Hating Israel doesn't make me an antisemite. It makes me a man against ZIONISM.

Not JUDAISM.

Please distinguish the two.


Would you hate Israel because it's very existance (and total pwnage of A-rab states) defies your religious text (I'd have harsher terms such as rag, but I think that's against the rules) commonly known today as the Quran?


No. Don't be a discriminative douche.
I hate Israel because they
DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST ON PALESTINIAN LAND


Now, now, no need to call names. I could have easily called you a towel head, suicide bomber, or perhaps worse. But I know, nay understand, that that would be the common stereotype for your people. Now its been said that not all Mulims want war, yet you dont see them protesting when a terrorist strikes the West. Actually, you see them rejoicing on the streets while certain aircraft fly into two certain towers.

As for Palestine, let the A-rabs take it if they want it. We all know they've got their lust on it, let's see if they got their balls as well. We all also know they'll try, but there are those of us who know they'll fail.

Interesting game, this world, aint it? :p
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"If you're under 30 and not a liberal, you have no heart.
If you're over 30 and not a conservative, you have no brain."

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Berzerkirs wrote:The Incan god of the moon jizzed on the earth, and so sprouted the grass and various other plants.
True story. ;)

I was there...I told him to freakin' clean it up...He refused, peeing thus on some of his jizz...These my friends are dandelions...

^That was for you WWIIHG! <3

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Postby Virtud Tierra » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:04 pm

Interesting question, and oddly enough I agree with "average American" list of nations. Canada, Mexico then UK, Germany, France. Japan and South Korea would be low on my priorities, although they are more important allies then France or Germany, I suppose.

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Berzerkirs
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Postby Berzerkirs » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:08 pm

For all those who disagree with my views, send me a telegram, eh? That way we can keep each other sharp, witty, and what not. I certainly expect a tg from my A-rab bud here... :)

Once again my time on the forums is cut short. Duty calls... :clap:
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"If you're under 30 and not a liberal, you have no heart.
If you're over 30 and not a conservative, you have no brain."

Manahakatouki wrote:
Berzerkirs wrote:The Incan god of the moon jizzed on the earth, and so sprouted the grass and various other plants.
True story. ;)

I was there...I told him to freakin' clean it up...He refused, peeing thus on some of his jizz...These my friends are dandelions...

^That was for you WWIIHG! <3

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Gordonisia
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Postby Gordonisia » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:11 pm

Berzerkirs wrote:
Shahinesian States wrote:
Berzerkirs wrote:
Shahinesian States wrote:You have no right to call me an antisemite.

I'm half Arab and the Arabs are Semitic peoples.

Hating Israel doesn't make me an antisemite. It makes me a man against ZIONISM.

Not JUDAISM.

Please distinguish the two.


Would you hate Israel because it's very existance (and total pwnage of A-rab states) defies your religious text (I'd have harsher terms such as rag, but I think that's against the rules) commonly known today as the Quran?


No. Don't be a discriminative douche.
I hate Israel because they
DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST ON PALESTINIAN LAND


Now, now, no need to call names. I could have easily called you a towel head, suicide bomber, or perhaps worse. But I know, nay understand, that that would be the common stereotype for your people. Now its been said that not all Mulims want war, yet you dont see them protesting when a terrorist strikes the West. Actually, you see them rejoicing on the streets while certain aircraft fly into two certain towers.

As for Palestine, let the A-rabs take it if they want it. We all know they've got their lust on it, let's see if they got their balls as well. We all also know they'll try, but there are those of us who know they'll fail.

Interesting game, this world, aint it? :p

Why doesn't America just take Palestine/Israel? Hell, let's take over the entire Middle East (oh wait, we're already doing that..)
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Natapoc
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Postby Natapoc » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:11 pm

Berzerkirs wrote:Now, now, no need to call names. I could have easily called you a towel head, suicide bomber, or perhaps worse. But I know, nay understand, that that would be the common stereotype for your people. Now its been said that not all Mulims want war, yet you dont see them protesting when a terrorist strikes the West. Actually, you see them rejoicing on the streets while certain aircraft fly into two certain towers.

As for Palestine, let the A-rabs take it if they want it. We all know they've got their lust on it, let's see if they got their balls as well. We all also know they'll try, but there are those of us who know they'll fail.

Interesting game, this world, aint it? :p


Berzerkirs, how exactly would you protest if a terrorist attacked the west? It is not like people can go find Usama and wave signs in his face calling him a killer. There is always widespread condemnation of Islamic terrorist attacks from Muslims. If the media does not cover it where you live or you have not heard of it it does not make it true.

Most Arabs just want to be left alone and live in peace as they are and have no interest in war. The terrorists should not be tolerated and should be condemned by all but very few arabs are on the side of the terrorists.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:12 pm

Berzerkirs wrote:For all those who disagree with my views, send me a telegram, eh? That way we can keep each other sharp, witty, and what not. I certainly expect a tg from my A-rab bud here... :)

Once again my time on the forums is cut short. Duty calls... :clap:

Dear God, does he actually believe that he's being all nice and friendly? :blink:
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Postby Gordonisia » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:28 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Berzerkirs wrote:For all those who disagree with my views, send me a telegram, eh? That way we can keep each other sharp, witty, and what not. I certainly expect a tg from my A-rab bud here... :)

Once again my time on the forums is cut short. Duty calls... :clap:

Dear God, does he actually believe that he's being all nice and friendly? :blink:

I would say he's being a typical, arrogant Jew, but I try to avoid those big mean racial slurs :hug:
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