Falkland islands protest outside Brit embassy in BA

[Denmarlandia]

We have the right to call they MALVINAS

[Argentine Armed Forces]

Fucking British shit....you are no longer an Empire, forget that.....You are just using the Malvinas issue to cover up your crisis, just like Thatcher did.....

No we are not an empire, the Falklands not 'Malvinas' are our land occupied by British people who want to remain British and I assure you that the British Government will defend the Falklands not 'Malvinas' from an imperialist aggressor.

They are called Malvinas, sorry "mate". If that land is occupied by British people who want to remain British, they can go live to the United Kingdom..... Imperialist aggresor? US? HA! That is a good one....

[Caragonia]

Fucking British shit....you are no longer an Empire, forget that.....You are just using the Malvinas issue to cover up your crisis, just like Thatcher did.....

Actually, the '82 War started because the Junta wanted to distract the Argentinian populace from the crappy economy and life for them as compared to those who ran the country. The current Argentinian president seems to be doing the same. At least she's not torturing the poor bastards.

Ridiculous! The Falkland Islands are as British as scones and football-violence.

Fool!!I was defending to Georgia.And you`re here just said foolish.Georgia is Russian?

Show some courtesy by learning some measure of English please, instead of just thrashing madly into Google Translate.

[Super Bwitain]

No we are not an empire, the Falklands not 'Malvinas' are our land occupied by British people who want to remain British and I assure you that the British Government will defend the Falklands not 'Malvinas' from an imperialist aggressor.

They are called Malvinas, sorry "mate". If that land is occupied by British people who want to remain British, they can go live to the United Kingdom..... Imperialist aggresor? US? HA! That is a good one....

I already corrected him on it.

Whilst i may disagree with you, you have a right to call those islands what you wish.

[SD_Film Artists]

Fucking British shit....you are no longer an Empire, forget that.....You are just using the Malvinas issue to cover up your crisis, just like Thatcher did.....

Funny that, as it was Argentina who started the war to cover up the crisis of Argentina's failing Junta. Sure Thatcher gained in popularity from it, but that was just collateral.

And Argentina isn't an empire either, so stop taking other people's land.

[Argentine Armed Forces]

Fucking British shit....you are no longer an Empire, forget that.....You are just using the Malvinas issue to cover up your crisis, just like Thatcher did.....

Actually, the '82 War started because the Junta wanted to distract the Argentinian populace from the crappy economy and life for them as compared to those who ran the country. The current Argentinian president seems to be doing the same. At least she's not torturing the poor bastards.

Fool!!I was defending to Georgia.And you`re here just said foolish.Georgia is Russian?

Show some courtesy by learning some measure of English please, instead of just thrashing madly into Google Translate.

I am aware of what the Junta did, and it was stupid and I know that Cristina Fernandez is doing the same....But you know the difference? Although I don´t support her government, I admire the way she is struggling for the Malvinas issue....PEACEFULLY, how is ment to be done.

[SD_Film Artists]

And we're doing the same to cover up our own, just like Galtieri did. Your argument is invalid.

IS ALSO valid.Remember the repression against the coal workers.That She killed months ago Malvine`s War

Like many other politicians, Thatcher was a great war leader but a very unpopular peace-time leader.

[Denmarlandia]

IS ALSO valid.Remember the represion against the coal workers.That She killed monts ago Malvine`s War

And then Argentina invading and losing helped get her re-elected.
Thanks Argentina. We'd have been rid of her sooner without the war.

Dislike to me given to you the reason.But You`re right in something.The Goverment of the innept general Galtieri support to the War to cover up the crissis.The day March 30 of 1982 almost falling down the dictatorship thanks to resistance of Metalurgic workers driving by the Justicialist Peronist Sindicate leaders

[Super Bwitain]

Actually, the '82 War started because the Junta wanted to distract the Argentinian populace from the crappy economy and life for them as compared to those who ran the country. The current Argentinian president seems to be doing the same. At least she's not torturing the poor bastards.



Show some courtesy by learning some measure of English please, instead of just thrashing madly into Google Translate.

I am aware of what the Junta did, and it was stupid and I know that Cristina Fernandez is doing the same....But you know the difference? Although I don´t support her government, I admire the way she is struggling for the Malvinas issue....PEACEFULLY, how is ment to be done.

So are we, most of us do not want war, I like Argentina, what i don't like is their repeated attempts to get the Falklands.

[SD_Film Artists]

Actually, the '82 War started because the Junta wanted to distract the Argentinian populace from the crappy economy and life for them as compared to those who ran the country. The current Argentinian president seems to be doing the same. At least she's not torturing the poor bastards.



Show some courtesy by learning some measure of English please, instead of just thrashing madly into Google Translate.

I am aware of what the Junta did, and it was stupid and I know that Cristina Fernandez is doing the same....But you know the difference? Although I don´t support her government, I admire the way she is struggling for the Malvinas issue....PEACEFULLY, how is ment to be done.

Well at least you accept the non-military route, though I'm really not sure where you're going to go non-militarily considering that Britain has just as much reason to negotiate with Finland, Switzerland or Sealand.

[Caragonia]

Actually, the '82 War started because the Junta wanted to distract the Argentinian populace from the crappy economy and life for them as compared to those who ran the country. The current Argentinian president seems to be doing the same. At least she's not torturing the poor bastards.

I am aware of what the Junta did, and it was stupid and I know that Cristina Fernandez is doing the same....But you know the difference? Although I don´t support her government, I admire the way she is struggling for the Malvinas issue....PEACEFULLY, how is ment to be done.

It's a bit ironic she's demanding talks long after Argentina gave up any moral right to the Falklands by invading it, she's declared that no ship flying a Falklands flag can dock/go into Argentinian waters, and the Islanders have said constantly that they don't want to be handed over to Argentina like a little bunch of vassals.

[Argentine Armed Forces]

Fucking British shit....you are no longer an Empire, forget that.....You are just using the Malvinas issue to cover up your crisis, just like Thatcher did.....

Funny that, as it was Argentina who started the war to cover up the crisis of Argentina's failing Junta. Sure Thatcher gained in popularity from it, but that was just collateral.

And Argentina isn't an empire either, so stop taking other people's land.

Are you British? If you are, what you are saying it´s pretty funny too....history shows that the only thing British know to do is to take other people´s land (: Just like they did in Africa, just like they did in Asia, just like they did in the whole world actually. The Malvinas are part of OUR territorry.

[The Realm of God]

No we are not an empire, the Falklands not 'Malvinas' are our land occupied by British people who want to remain British and I assure you that the British Government will defend the Falklands not 'Malvinas' from an imperialist aggressor.

They are called Malvinas, sorry "mate". If that land is occupied by British people who want to remain British, they can go live to the United Kingdom..... Imperialist aggresor? US? HA! That is a good one....

I will spell it out like your a primary school child. There are some British farmers living on an island, they live in peace. They have lived there all there lives since there British Great Grandparents settled there. Then a nation from across the sea comes and arrests them all and forces them to be Argentinians a situation they didn't want.

Ok Question Time.

1. Who are the Imperialist aggressors.
2. Who are the defenders (who used to be imperialists)

Your claim to the Falklands is utter shite, you passed them once and visited them for a few months and left. Ok I stopped at a motorway service station today to get some lunch and ate my meal and left. In other words I passed them once, visited it and left. If using your claim I now own a Welcome Break on the A1 just outside of Granthem in Lincolnshire.

[SD_Film Artists]

Funny that, as it was Argentina who started the war to cover up the crisis of Argentina's failing Junta. Sure Thatcher gained in popularity from it, but that was just collateral.

And Argentina isn't an empire either, so stop taking other people's land.

Are you British? If you are, what you are saying it´s pretty funny too....history shows that the only thing British know to do is to take other people´s land (: Just like they did in Africa, just like they did in Asia, just like they did in the whole world actually. The Malvinas are part of OUR territorry.

I am British and I don't pretend that our colonial empire didn't happen. What I object to is that Argentina thinks that imperialist colonialism is ok just as long as it's against another (former)colonialist. The Falklands isn't even a colony, unless you take it in the most simple meaning of 'nation settling in an overseas land'. Britain isn't in the colonial era anymore, and Argentina should come into the 21st century too.

[Argentine Armed Forces]

I am aware of what the Junta did, and it was stupid and I know that Cristina Fernandez is doing the same....But you know the difference? Although I don´t support her government, I admire the way she is struggling for the Malvinas issue....PEACEFULLY, how is ment to be done.

It's a bit ironic she's demanding talks long after Argentina gave up any moral right to the Falklands by invading it, she's declared that no ship flying a Falklands flag can dock/go into Argentinian waters, and the Islanders have said constantly that they don't want to be handed over to Argentina like a little bunch of vassals.

I am sorry, but right now the islanders ARE vassals....Different flag doesn´t change a thing....And the issue of the ships is a pressure measurement.....

[Super Bwitain]

Funny that, as it was Argentina who started the war to cover up the crisis of Argentina's failing Junta. Sure Thatcher gained in popularity from it, but that was just collateral.

And Argentina isn't an empire either, so stop taking other people's land.

Are you British? If you are, what you are saying it´s pretty funny too....history shows that the only thing British know to do is to take other people´s land (: Just like they did in Africa, just like they did in Asia, just like they did in the whole world actually. The Malvinas are part of OUR territorry.

I love it when this happens, "Lolz lets pretend that the Brits were the only ones who embraced colonialism, just cuz de were the biggest!". Seriously, that was part of the times, France, Spain and the US all expanded greatly during the 19th century.

Funny that, i could have sworn the Falklands were part of OUR territory, seeing as we have British troops and British civilians on the islands.

The Falkland Islands /ˈfɔːklənd/ (Spanish: Islas Malvinas) are an archipelago in the South Atlantic Ocean, located about 250 nautical miles (290 mi; 460 km) from the coast of mainland South America. The archipelago consists of East Falkland, West Falkland and 776 lesser islands. The capital, Stanley, is on East Falkland. The islands are an internally self-governing British Overseas Territory, with the United Kingdom responsible for defence and foreign affairs.

[Caragonia]

It's a bit ironic she's demanding talks long after Argentina gave up any moral right to the Falklands by invading it, she's declared that no ship flying a Falklands flag can dock/go into Argentinian waters, and the Islanders have said constantly that they don't want to be handed over to Argentina like a little bunch of vassals.

I am sorry, but right now the islanders ARE vassals....Different flag doesn´t change a thing....And the issue of the ships is a pressure measurement.....

No, they are British, since following the '82 War the British Nationality (Falkland Islands) Act 1983 was signed in making them British citizens. Before that they were considered citizens of an overseas territory, which even then wouldn't make them people from another country.

EDIT; I just noticed this on the Wikipedia page for the Act;
"The Act has been superseded by the British Overseas Territories Act 2002, which granted full British citizenship to all British overseas territories, including the Falkland Islands."

[Argentine Armed Forces]

They are called Malvinas, sorry "mate". If that land is occupied by British people who want to remain British, they can go live to the United Kingdom..... Imperialist aggresor? US? HA! That is a good one....

I will spell it out like your a primary school child. There are some British farmers living on an island, they live in peace. They have lived there all there lives since there British Great Grandparents settled there. Then a nation from across the sea comes and arrests them all and forces them to be Argentinians a situation they didn't want.

Ok Question Time.

1. Who are the Imperialist aggressors.
2. Who are the defenders (who used to be imperialists)

Your claim to the Falklands is utter shite, you passed them once and visited them for a few months and left. Ok I stopped at a motorway service station today to get some lunch and ate my meal and left. In other words I passed them once, visited it and left. If using your claim I now own a Welcome Break on the A1 just outside of Granthem in Lincolnshire.

Excuse me, in the beggining, when OUR nation was developing, the Islands belonged to us, then a nation from another continent, from across the sea, thousand of miles away of the islands, took possesion of them. I have already said that I don´t support what the Junta did, I am NOT saying that is what we have to do now.

I stopped at a hotel years ago, brought my friends and sons to live there and they have done the same with their sons and friends. In other words, we settled there. If using your claim, me, my kids, and my friends are now the legitimate owners of a hotel.

[Malgrave]

Fucking British shit....you are no longer an Empire, forget that.....You are just using the Malvinas issue to cover up your crisis, just like Thatcher did.....

Apart from the fact that the Argentine Military Junta used the conflict to cover up their own economic crisis. It's not like Thatcher asked the Argentine Junta to invade the Falklands and kill their own dictatorship.

[SD_Film Artists]

I will spell it out like your a primary school child. There are some British farmers living on an island, they live in peace. They have lived there all there lives since there British Great Grandparents settled there. Then a nation from across the sea comes and arrests them all and forces them to be Argentinians a situation they didn't want.

Ok Question Time.

1. Who are the Imperialist aggressors.
2. Who are the defenders (who used to be imperialists)

Your claim to the Falklands is utter shite, you passed them once and visited them for a few months and left. Ok I stopped at a motorway service station today to get some lunch and ate my meal and left. In other words I passed them once, visited it and left. If using your claim I now own a Welcome Break on the A1 just outside of Granthem in Lincolnshire.

Excuse me, in the beggining, when OUR nation was developing, the Island belonged to us, then a nation from another continent, from across the sea, thousand of miles away of the island, took possesion of them. I have already said that I don´t support what the Junta did, I am NOT saying that is what we have to do now.

I stopped at a hotel years ago, brought my friends and sons to live there and they have donde the same with their sons and friends. In other words, I settled there. If using your claim, me, my kids, and my sons are now the legitimate owners of a hotel.

IIRC, Argentina inherited it from Spain who at the time didn't even have the right to give it to Argentina anyway.

[Super Bwitain]

I will spell it out like your a primary school child. There are some British farmers living on an island, they live in peace. They have lived there all there lives since there British Great Grandparents settled there. Then a nation from across the sea comes and arrests them all and forces them to be Argentinians a situation they didn't want.

Ok Question Time.

1. Who are the Imperialist aggressors.
2. Who are the defenders (who used to be imperialists)

Your claim to the Falklands is utter shite, you passed them once and visited them for a few months and left. Ok I stopped at a motorway service station today to get some lunch and ate my meal and left. In other words I passed them once, visited it and left. If using your claim I now own a Welcome Break on the A1 just outside of Granthem in Lincolnshire.

Excuse me, in the beggining, when OUR nation was developing, the Island belonged to us, then a nation from another continent, from across the sea, thousand of miles away of the island, took possesion of them. I have already said that I don´t support what the Junta did, I am NOT saying that is what we have to do now.

I stopped at a hotel years ago, brought my friends and sons to live there and they have donde the same with their sons and friends. In other words, I settled there. If using your claim, me, my kids, and my sons are now the legitimate owners of a hotel.

I think you'll find that in the beginning, the island belonged to us:

In 1764, French navigator and military commander Louis Antoine de Bougainville founded the first settlement on Berkeley Sound, in present-day Port Louis, East Falkland. In 1765, British captain John Byron explored and claimed Saunders Island on West Falkland, where he named the harbour Port Egmont and a settlement was constructed in 1766. Unaware of the French presence, Byron claimed the island group for King George III. Spain acquired the French colony in 1767 and placed it under a governor subordinate to the Buenos Aires colonial administration. In 1770, Spain attacked Port Egmont and expelled the British presence, bringing the two countries to the brink of war. War was avoided by a peace treaty and the British return to Port Egmont.

In 1774, economic pressures leading up to the American Revolutionary War forced Great Britain to withdraw from many overseas settlements. Upon withdrawal the British left behind a plaque asserting her continued claim. Spain maintained its governor until 1806 who, on his departure, left behind a plaque asserting Spanish claims. The remaining settlers were withdrawn by the United Provinces of the River Plate in 1811.

Would you look at that! The Islands were still ours.

[Caragonia]

I will spell it out like your a primary school child. There are some British farmers living on an island, they live in peace. They have lived there all there lives since there British Great Grandparents settled there. Then a nation from across the sea comes and arrests them all and forces them to be Argentinians a situation they didn't want.

Ok Question Time.

1. Who are the Imperialist aggressors.
2. Who are the defenders (who used to be imperialists)

Your claim to the Falklands is utter shite, you passed them once and visited them for a few months and left. Ok I stopped at a motorway service station today to get some lunch and ate my meal and left. In other words I passed them once, visited it and left. If using your claim I now own a Welcome Break on the A1 just outside of Granthem in Lincolnshire.

Excuse me, in the beggining, when OUR nation was developing, the Island belonged to us, then a nation from another continent, from across the sea, thousand of miles away of the island, took possesion of them. I have already said that I don´t support what the Junta did, I am NOT saying that is what we have to do now.

I stopped at a hotel years ago, brought my friends and sons to live there and they have donde the same with their sons and friends. In other words, I settled there. If using your claim, me, my kids, and my sons are now the legitimate owners of a hotel.

1. You say that 'using your claim'. You're not using his claim. You're backing up what he says what was your original claim would allow, in this case he said that under your logic he could claim a motorway rest station and you have now backed up that assertion.
2. Unless you're a citizen of Spain, your country did not hold the Falklands originally.

I have a very good PDF file that has been used to prove that the Argentinian claims on the Falklands are false, and regrettably it does not appear to be available on-line apart from the following website, which even I myself find distasteful (I believe the paucity of hosts for this PDF is because it is an academic work and may not have been intended for a general audience. None the less, I ask all to read it, just as I would read a source anyone arguing for Argentinian control of the Falklands provided. After all, we are all adults here and can behave like them.);

http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/ ... tright.pdf
http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/ ... tright.pdf

[Unchecked Expansion]

I stopped at a hotel years ago, brought my friends and sons to live there and they have done the same with their sons and friends. In other words, we settled there. If using your claim, me, my kids, and my friends are now the legitimate owners of a hotel.

If you'd managed to stay there, with the owners not using it or kicking you out, you'd have a decent claim on the hotel by Adverse Possession.
Of course, if you simply used the hotel with the owners possession, as the Argentinian colony did when it asked the British Crown for the right to settle, you wouldn't have any right to go back and demand they let you back in the room you used without paying.
That really is a great metaphor you gave.

[The Realm of God]

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1. You say that 'using your claim'. You're not using his claim. You're backing up what he says what was your original claim would allow, in this case he said that under your logic he could claim a motorway rest station and you have now backed up that assertion.

I was pretty sure I was using the Argentinian Falkland claim to back up my claim on a motorway service station. Not exactly backing him up.

[Caragonia]

I was pretty sure I was using the Argentinian Falkland claim to back up my claim on a motorway service station. Not exactly backing him up.

If you'd read that post, you would have understood that was the gist of what I was saying in the first place.