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[Kinzakastan]

Some of you have said that "there is no God, if there is he is just there to cause us pain" But your wrong. The world is corrupted, its sick and diseased and the Lord is there to give us salvation from the pain which this world creates.

Just this ... The world is not corrupted, sick or diseased. There are people who, for whatever reason, do bad things to other people but it is not because they and the world are intrisically flawed. For all the good Christian has done - and there is some, quite a bit, really - this mind-set alone almost cancels it all out. What a terrible, terrible way to look at things, and if there were a God who created this corrupt world and put his beloved children in it, then told them they could never really rise above it except in extraordinary cases, what a sorry deity that is. A human parent who treated his children that way would lose them.

I think you are misunderstanding the fall of man. This world wasn't created corrupt, but the choices we make, the sins we all partake in corrupt it. This is a pretty basic observation, how can a world where old men molest little girls and murderers stockpile bodies in abandoned lots not be diseased? What I'm saying, is that people ARE inherently good, but the world be live in is not always easy, fair or good. And even after we corrupted the world he tried to save us, cleansing it in the flood, sending his only son down to bring salvation to his people, Letting his son die on the cross so that our sins could be washed away. He gives us the promise of heaven and the very gift of life, he doesn't seem cruel to me. And when do you think that he says we "could never really rise above it except in extraordinary cases" I would like to see biblical support for that. In fact the opposite is true

Deuteronomy 15:10
Give generously to him and do so without a grudging heart; then because of this the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in everything you put your hand to.

Ecclesiastes 3:9-14
9 What does the worker gain from his toil? 10 I have seen the burden God has laid on men. 11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end. 12 I know that there is nothing better for men than to be happy and do good while they live. 13 That everyone may eat and drink, and find satisfaction in all his toil—this is the gift of God. 14 I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it. God does it so that men will revere him.

You can find many similar things in proverbs and psalms and various places in the NT. God in no way opposes useful labor and subsequent acheivment, in fact he encourages it. So please, don't refer to the Lord as a "sorry deity" when in fact your pitiful and ignorant attempts at dishonoring Him are at the very best asinine, tactless and incompetent.

[Bavin]

You shouldn't use the Bible as your source. Its bad science. I don't know if there is a God, or a Creator, or a Flying Spaghetti Monster of Death, so how do you know? How do THEY [writers of the Bible] know?

[Immaculacy]

might be a bit of dirty pool, but the entirety of the Old Testament is full of "forgiveness" like that.

Actually I would refer you to the story of Jonah. Tons of forgiveness there. But let me recap.
God: Go to Nineveh, tell them that unless they repent I'm going to nuke them!
Jonah: Cool, I hate them.
God: Go to Nineveh.
Jonah: (BEEP) this, I'm out of here.
(One escape scene followed by being swallowed by a whale and subsequent return to starting point.)
Jonah: OK I'll go to Nineveh.
Jonah: 40 more days and you are going to be nuked.
Nineveh: What should we do?
Jonah: Repent
Nineveh: Sure! Sack cloth and ashes? No problem!
(40 days later Nineveh is not nuked because they repented.)
Jonah: See? I knew they would repent. Now you didn't nuke them like I wanted!
God: Live wit it.

I'm not sure if you reilize this, but I already covedrd that story with him, only I didin't use script form, or "slang" terms

[Skama]

You shouldn't use the Bible as your source. Its bad science. I don't know if there is a God, or a Creator, or a Flying Spaghetti Monster of Death, so how do you know? How do THEY [writers of the Bible] know?

How would anyone know? I don't think anyone here asked them

[Dystopian Polymarchy]

There are two possible reasons on how the bible was written:

1. A Historian in catholic religion says that the scrolls were found in a desert and the writers re-wrote them into there langauge.

2. Christianity started out as a worshipped book (such as scientology ("Giant load of bulls___))and got bigger and bigger.



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Good thing Jesus wasn't killed 20 years ago, or kids would were electric chairs around there necks instead of crosses

[Kinzakastan]

You shouldn't use the Bible as your source. Its bad science. I don't know if there is a God, or a Creator, or a Flying Spaghetti Monster of Death, so how do you know? How do THEY [writers of the Bible] know?

Well, if you think the bible is a bad source then check this source out-http://www.creatingfutures.net/validity.html
This will explain exactly why the bible is the opposite of a bad source and give you specific, scientific, and accurate examples of the validity of the bible. I would like to hear your argument on why the bible is a bad source.

Also, you asked how I know that there is a God. I could give you tons of scriptural references of how I know it. But to humor you I will stick to non-biblical references.
Think about these statements if you are trying to decide if there is a God.

The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. Also the existance of Atoms with amazing properties like the ability to simultaneously exist in LA and NY at once. The human eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously.

The universe had a start - what caused it?
Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.

Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."

We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him.

Have you ever wondered why pursuing an opposition to christianity is so paramount to atheists or other people who deny the existance of God? Most would tell you it is because they feel sorry for those "delusional, meem-infected christians" but it is deeper than that. The question of the existance of a creator is one of the greatest things that humans have to resolve for themselves. Why is that? Why is it so important? The reason the topic of God weighs so heavily on our minds, is because God is pressing the issue. God wants to be known. He created us with the intention that we would know him. He has surrounded us with evidence of himself and he keeps the question of his existence squarely before us.
Malcolm Muggeridge, socialist and philosophical author, wrote, "I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued." C.S. Lewis said he remembered, "...night after night, feeling whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all of England."

Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God revealing himself to us.

I find that the explaination to this is best given in the words of the author Marilyn Adamson.

Why Jesus? Look throughout the major world religions and you'll find that Buddha, Muhammad, Confucius and Moses all identified themselves as teachers or prophets. None of them ever claimed to be equal to God. Surprisingly, Jesus did. That is what sets Jesus apart from all the others. He said God exists and you're looking at him.

He said, "I am the light of the world, he who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." He claimed attributes belonging only to God: to be able to forgive people of their sin, free them from habits of sin, give people a more abundant life and give them eternal life in heaven. Unlike other teachers who focused people on their words, Jesus pointed people to himself. He did not say, "follow my words and you will find truth." He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me."

What proof did Jesus give for claiming to be divine? He did what people can't do. Jesus performed miracles. He healed people...blind, crippled, deaf, even raised a couple of people from the dead. He had power over objects...created food out of thin air, enough to feed crowds of several thousand people. He performed miracles over nature...walked on top of a lake, commanding a raging storm to stop for some friends. People everywhere followed Jesus, because he constantly met their needs, doing the miraculous. He said if you do not want to believe what I'm telling you, you should at least believe in me based on the miracles you're seeing.

Jesus Christ showed God to be gentle, loving, aware of our self-centeredness and shortcomings, yet deeply wanting a relationship with us. Jesus revealed that although God views us as sinners, worthy of his punishment, his love for us ruled and God came up with a different plan. God himself took on the form of man and accepted the punishment for our sin on our behalf. Sounds ludicrous? Perhaps, but many loving fathers would gladly trade places with their child in a cancer ward if they could. The Bible says that the reason we would love God is because he first loved us.

Jesus died in our place so we could be forgiven. Of all the religions known to humanity, only through Jesus will you see God reaching toward humanity, providing a way for us to have a relationship with him. Jesus proves a divine heart of love, meeting our needs, drawing us to himself. Because of Jesus' death and resurrection, he offers us a new life today. We can be forgiven, fully accepted by God and genuinely loved by God. He says, "I have loved you with an everlasting love, therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you."18 This is God, in action.

Does God exist? If you want to know, investigate Jesus Christ. We're told that "God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."19

God does not force us to believe in him, though he could. Instead, he has provided sufficient proof of his existence for us to willingly respond to him. The earth's perfect distance from the sun, the unique chemical properties of water, the human brain, DNA, the number of people who attest to knowing God, the gnawing in our hearts and minds to determine if God is there, the willingness for God to be known through Jesus Christ.

[Desperate Measures]

You shouldn't use the Bible as your source. Its bad science. I don't know if there is a God, or a Creator, or a Flying Spaghetti Monster of Death, so how do you know? How do THEY [writers of the Bible] know?

Well, if you think the bible is a bad source then check this source out-http://www.creatingfutures.net/validity.html
This will explain exactly why the bible is the opposite of a bad source and give you specific, scientific, and accurate examples of the validity of the bible. I would like to hear your argument on why the bible is a bad source.

Also, you asked how I know that there is a God. I could give you tons of scriptural references of how I know it. But to humor you I will stick to non-biblical references.
Think about these statements if you are trying to decide if there is a God.

The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. Also the existance of Atoms with amazing properties like the ability to simultaneously exist in LA and NY at once. The human eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously.

The universe had a start - what caused it?
Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.

Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."

We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him.

Have you ever wondered why pursuing an opposition to christianity is so paramount to atheists or other people who deny the existance of God? Most would tell you it is because they feel sorry for those "delusional, meem-infected christians" but it is deeper than that. The question of the existance of a creator is one of the greatest things that humans have to resolve for themselves. Why is that? Why is it so important? The reason the topic of God weighs so heavily on our minds, is because God is pressing the issue. God wants to be known. He created us with the intention that we would know him. He has surrounded us with evidence of himself and he keeps the question of his existence squarely before us.
Malcolm Muggeridge, socialist and philosophical author, wrote, "I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued." C.S. Lewis said he remembered, "...night after night, feeling whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all of England."

Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God revealing himself to us.

I find that the explaination to this is best given in the words of the author Marilyn Adamson.

Why Jesus? Look throughout the major world religions and you'll find that Buddha, Muhammad, Confucius and Moses all identified themselves as teachers or prophets. None of them ever claimed to be equal to God. Surprisingly, Jesus did. That is what sets Jesus apart from all the others. He said God exists and you're looking at him.

He said, "I am the light of the world, he who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." He claimed attributes belonging only to God: to be able to forgive people of their sin, free them from habits of sin, give people a more abundant life and give them eternal life in heaven. Unlike other teachers who focused people on their words, Jesus pointed people to himself. He did not say, "follow my words and you will find truth." He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me."

What proof did Jesus give for claiming to be divine? He did what people can't do. Jesus performed miracles. He healed people...blind, crippled, deaf, even raised a couple of people from the dead. He had power over objects...created food out of thin air, enough to feed crowds of several thousand people. He performed miracles over nature...walked on top of a lake, commanding a raging storm to stop for some friends. People everywhere followed Jesus, because he constantly met their needs, doing the miraculous. He said if you do not want to believe what I'm telling you, you should at least believe in me based on the miracles you're seeing.

Jesus Christ showed God to be gentle, loving, aware of our self-centeredness and shortcomings, yet deeply wanting a relationship with us. Jesus revealed that although God views us as sinners, worthy of his punishment, his love for us ruled and God came up with a different plan. God himself took on the form of man and accepted the punishment for our sin on our behalf. Sounds ludicrous? Perhaps, but many loving fathers would gladly trade places with their child in a cancer ward if they could. The Bible says that the reason we would love God is because he first loved us.

Jesus died in our place so we could be forgiven. Of all the religions known to humanity, only through Jesus will you see God reaching toward humanity, providing a way for us to have a relationship with him. Jesus proves a divine heart of love, meeting our needs, drawing us to himself. Because of Jesus' death and resurrection, he offers us a new life today. We can be forgiven, fully accepted by God and genuinely loved by God. He says, "I have loved you with an everlasting love, therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you."18 This is God, in action.

Does God exist? If you want to know, investigate Jesus Christ. We're told that "God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."19

God does not force us to believe in him, though he could. Instead, he has provided sufficient proof of his existence for us to willingly respond to him. The earth's perfect distance from the sun, the unique chemical properties of water, the human brain, DNA, the number of people who attest to knowing God, the gnawing in our hearts and minds to determine if God is there, the willingness for God to be known through Jesus Christ.

When is Jesus coming back so that I can see his miracles and believe?

[Techno-Soviet]

I don't care what a factious deity, created by man to explain natural things hundreds of centuries ago, has in store for me.

[Kinzakastan]

There are two possible reasons on how the bible was written:

1. A Historian in catholic religion says that the scrolls were found in a desert and the writers re-wrote them into there langauge.

2. Christianity started out as a worshipped book (such as scientology ("Giant load of bulls___))and got bigger and bigger.

So your statement provides only two possibilities for the creation of the bible, neither of them being of benevolent purpose. I have a few questions for you reguarding this.

Why do you think there was a pernicious reason for the creation of the bible?

Are you grouping both the new and old Testaments in this assumption?

Have you read these 4 passages from the bible which clearly explain WHY the bible was written?
1. That we might believe on the name of the Son of God. I John 5:13

2. That we might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. John 20:30-31

3. For examples for us to learn from and for our admonition. I Corinthians 10:11

4. So that we should not live by bread alone. Matthew 4:4

Have you ever studied how the books of the bible came to be?
The Bible tells us that the origin of the Bible is God Himself. In 2 Timothy 3:16, we read that all scripture is inspired by God. The Greek word used for inspiration is theopneustos, which means "God-breathed." In 2 Peter 1:21, we understand that each writer was "carried along" by God. Therefore, God used each of the Bible's 40 authors, including their diverse cultural backgrounds, personalities and positions, to deliver His divine Word to all mankind.

Each of the books of the bible have specific authorship assigned, some of which are considered divinely dictated. These books all have credable scientific background for their authorship. They were written as histories, as letters to the churches, as doctrinal books for the churches, as worship books (Psalms, Proverbs) and as prophecy. The books written about prophecy from the Old Testement all were certified by the New Testement, if you are looking to examine the purpose there.

I would very much be interested to hear your answers to my questions. Hopefully your oppinions can be supported by some genuine understanding.

[Kinzakastan]

When is Jesus coming back so that I can see his miracles and believe?

1. Timing of second coming is incalculable, unpredictable

Your question really depends on which ideas you follow. I mean personally I think that people misinterpret prophecy in the NT and that God's reapearance to us is meant to either be individual or far far in the future and in a way that we wouldn't be able to comprehend. You should really look into that yourself if you think its worthwhile.

As for belief, by exploring the truth of the bible and opening your self up to salvation you will understand miracles. I know I can only speak for myself. But I personaly have witnessed miracles. Say what you will, but I was lost, wrecked, and fallen and I was found and I was fixed and I was held up. I can't force you to believe or see what I see. I can only show you what I've seen and hope you pursue it for yourself.

[Bavin]

You shouldn't use the Bible as your source. Its bad science. I don't know if there is a God, or a Creator, or a Flying Spaghetti Monster of Death, so how do you know? How do THEY [writers of the Bible] know?

Well, if you think the bible is a bad source then check this source out-http://www.creatingfutures.net/validity.html
This will explain exactly why the bible is the opposite of a bad source and give you specific, scientific, and accurate examples of the validity of the bible. I would like to hear your argument on why the bible is a bad source.

The link did not sway my opinion at all. It did not come from an objective third party. The Bible is meant to be a Religious Text, to tell the adherents of whatever religion what to believe and why. It is not meant to be a pure biography of Jesus Christ.

Also, you asked how I know that there is a God. I could give you tons of scriptural references of how I know it. But to humor you I will stick to non-biblical references.
Think about these statements if you are trying to decide if there is a God.

The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible.

This is pure chance. There is a reason that after hundreds of years of scanning the skies, we have found few planets in the "sweet spot". But math says this will happen. Consider that there are hundreds of millions of galaxies. Each contains hundreds of billions of stars, and each contains an average half- dozen planets. Wouldn't it make sense that at least one, if not hundreds of thousands, of life-capable planets exist? And this "sweet spot" is fairly large. Sure, if we moved a little we would die, but other organisms could be better adapted to live in hotter or cooler worlds.

Also the existance of Atoms with amazing properties like the ability to simultaneously exist in LA and NY at once. The human eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously.

The former is one of the universes many mysteries. How could we attain such understanding of the universe after only 700 years of objective science? The latter is a result of evolution. The organisms that mutated to have better eyes survived better, and reproduced better.

The universe had a start - what caused it?
Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.

Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."

Here I may agree with you. But you are agreeing with me. Dr. Jastrow doesn't know if there is a God. It is perfectly valid in my mind that God or some other FSM-type being set off the Big Bang. This may be the best clue towards the existence of a FSM, but it is still not proof.

We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him.
Have you ever wondered why pursuing an opposition to christianity is so paramount to atheists or other people who deny the existance of God? Most would tell you it is because they feel sorry for those "delusional, meem-infected christians" but it is deeper than that. The question of the existance of a creator is one of the greatest things that humans have to resolve for themselves. Why is that? Why is it so important? The reason the topic of God weighs so heavily on our minds, is because God is pressing the issue. God wants to be known. He created us with the intention that we would know him. He has surrounded us with evidence of himself and he keeps the question of his existence squarely before us.
Malcolm Muggeridge, socialist and philosophical author, wrote, "I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued." C.S. Lewis said he remembered, "...night after night, feeling whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all of England."

There are two reasons for this type of soul-searching. The first is because the vast majority of us are brought up in one type of religious belief or another (I was). The second is just human nature. Humans are naturally fearful and worrisome, so they came up with religion to explain the things that they could not, and to explain the Big Questions: How did we get here? Why are we here? Where do we go when we die? Sorry I lost the rest, but it was all about Jesus, and I won't get into him now.

[Wilgrove]

I think Woden and Freya would want me to be more concern with how I treat the Earth and my fellow humans than worry about their plans for me.

[Wilgrove]

In fact, i DO belive that what God has in store for me is what I would deserve. Nobodys perfect, and God is forgiving, so whatever he tests, or puts us through, is always in love, and good thought for the well-being, and (in the long run) good for us.

Which God?

[Wilgrove]

Christians still haven't explain Matthew 24:34 to me.

I tell you the truth, this generation[a] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

This is in reference to Matthew 24;3

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

So either there's a 2,009 year old person who's begging for death, and yet Yahweh keeps him alive, Jesus messed up on his calculation, or this is one of those instance in the Bible that was "added" to the actual Sermon of Jesus.

I talked to one of my Christian friends, and she said it's referenced to the fall of Jerusalem in 70AD, which would fit, if it wasn't for the fact that Jesus did not come back during that fall.

[Cerean]

snip a bunch of garbage

I guess all these noobs are good for something. I wonder how long it'll last until we have to wait for the next cycle to pass through.

[Big Jim P]

snip a bunch of garbage

I guess all these noobs are good for something. I wonder how long it'll last until we have to wait for the next cycle to pass through.

I think we will have an occasional straggler, then a major influx in about a month. This pattern will probably repeat until school starts again.

[Wilgrove]

I think we will have an occasional straggler, then a major influx in about a month. This pattern will probably repeat until school starts again.

Don't we usually get Stromfront members in around this time of year?

[Tubbsalot]

Kinzakastan's posts are hilarious, and also depressing.

[Sinyoo]

I Give More Regard To Egregious Misuse Of Capitalization Than I Do God's Nebulous Plans.

[Big Jim P]

I think we will have an occasional straggler, then a major influx in about a month. This pattern will probably repeat until school starts again.

Don't we usually get Stromfront members in around this time of year?

Yah. This time we seem to have gotten a crop of biblethumpers for a change though.

[Wilgrove]

Yah. This time we seem to have gotten a crop of biblethumpers for a change though.

Is it weird that I'd rather have the racists? I mean I am choosing between two evils here, but at least we get humorous post with the racist, and some of them do Suicide by Mods, which are always entertaining.

[Gauntleted Fist]

Yah. This time we seem to have gotten a crop of biblethumpers for a change though.

Is it weird that I'd rather have the racists? I mean I am choosing between two evils here, but at least we get humorous post with the racist, and some of them do Suicide by Mods, which are always entertaining.

They're all righteously indignant, though. It's rather funny just reading their post and imagining their faces while they're posting. "How can they BELIEVE this?"

[Wilgrove]

Yah. This time we seem to have gotten a crop of biblethumpers for a change though.

Is it weird that I'd rather have the racists? I mean I am choosing between two evils here, but at least we get humorous post with the racist, and some of them do Suicide by Mods, which are always entertaining.

They're all righteously indignant, though. It's rather funny just reading their post and imagining their faces while they're posting. "How can they BELIEVE this?"

I think the average age of Stormfront members is 14.

[Gauntleted Fist]

I think the average age of Stormfront members is 14.

No, I meant the biblethumpers' reaction when they read OUR post.

For example:

Generalite: *makes post about the good redistribution of wealth would do*

Biblethumper: *makes post about godless communism and there fury at the generalite for having anything to do with anything godless*

Though that's exaggerated...a little.

[Weylara]

Did anyone consider the possibility that there is more than one god? There might be thousands!