Whats with all the hate?

[Aethelstania]

As someone who's moved around the political spectrum quite a way, from a socially conservative one nation Tory to social libertarian on the center left. Something that I have realized is that when arguing from either perspective the politics of HATE dominates. The people on the left hate the right, the people on the right hate the left. "We should piss on Thatchers grave" "Thieving Lefties" ETC. Dogmatically voting for a single party all their lives. Would it not be better if we forget the factions for just a minute and pointed out at what is the 'best'' way forward? I know I described myself as a social libertarian but I detest summarizing my 'ideology' as it just creates factionalism. Now my rant is over the question is posed ... What is with all the hate ? are you on the left hating on the right or visa-versa ? do you agree with me that there is to much factionalism in politics and we should resolve it ... if so HOW ?

[Episarta]

Eh, I don't mind hating the right. But it's moreso the social conservatives I dislike. And no, people are always going to pick sides and find ways to hate eachother. It's natural.

[Snozzerland]

Just in:

People suck. No, seriously. That's why we hate eachother.

[Natty Narwhal]

I'm on neither side; I do not hate.

[Ravineworld]

I HATE capitalists views. But I don't hate them as people for their views. A lot of my good friends are capitalists ranging from liberal to austrian school capitalists. I still hate their views.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Eh, I don't see factionalism as much of a problem. It's a natural byproduct of any (even semi-sorta working) Democracy/Republic. People gravitate to the people they agree with and deride those who don't agree with them as unenlightened, or just incorrect in how they want to solve things.

The only way I can see "resolving" and doing something about such factionalism is the disintegration of the large organizational structures of society (nations, states, etc.) and a larger if not complete focus on people governing their own little areas where attitudes are the same or similar enough to have little conflict.
However, since that idea itself factionalizes people into "grubby statists" and "crazy yokels"...There's a bit of a problem. *shrug*

[Nazis in Space]

I'm continually amused that two virtually identical parties in the US use a rather more vitriolic form of 'Discourse' than the German neonazis and post-communists when protesting each other.

Don't stop. I need my entertainment~

[Alexlantis]

*singing* All we are sayyyyiinnng, is give peace a chaaaaannnce!

[Zathganastan]

Because they have different views on things, history has already told us people hate things that are different.

[Conserative Morality]

Hate is easy. Understanding is difficult.

When two sides are focused in a struggle to decide the fate of millions, it's easy to turn to hate instead of to understanding to achieve one's goals. When something is bigger than you, you feel that their opposition to your ideology is not merely opposing you - it's dedicated to destroying mankind's future.

[Wisconsin7]

*singing* All we are sayyyyiinnng, is give peace a chaaaaannnce!

This.

[Nazis in Space]

Hate is easy. Understanding is difficult.

When two sides are focused in a struggle to decide the fate of millions, it's easy to turn to hate instead of to understanding to achieve one's goals. When something is bigger than you, you feel that their opposition to your ideology is not merely opposing you - it's dedicated to destroying mankind's future.

Which is why opposition must be crushed at all costs before the great crusade begins.

[Conserative Morality]

Which is why opposition must be crushed at all costs before the great crusade begins.

Ah, 40k, right. I'm just waiting for the God-Emperor at this point.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Hate is easy. Understanding is difficult.

When two sides are focused in a struggle to decide the fate of millions, it's easy to turn to hate instead of to understanding to achieve one's goals. When something is bigger than you, you feel that their opposition to your ideology is not merely opposing you - it's dedicated to destroying mankind's future.

Which is why opposition must be crushed at all costs before the great crusade begins.

Wait wait wait wait wait...
I thought the purpose of the great crusade WAS to crush the opposition?
After the opposition is gone, what's the point of murdering the people that disagree with you in the streets until you're up to your knees in blood?

Edit: Ah...Apparently a Warhammer joke and not a historical one. Apologies.

[New Sheoth VI]

Read my sig.

[1000 Cats]

Hmm. Apart from a few ideas, I don't really tend to hate. I mean, I know neo-Nazis, and yeah, I make my hate for them pretty clear. I have relatively few stab-wounds. I hate imbeciles, and by that I mean people who are so ignorant and happy to spread around their ignorance without even attempting to learn or debate - people we tend to mistake for trolls. And I can get extremely angry at some things, although that ebbs just as quickly. But no, as far as economic and political viewpoints, so long as they aren't radical and don't seem to exist purely to be destructive, I don't have hate. I'm a leftist and great libertarian that was raised in a very capitalist household. I'd hate a lot of people in my life if that were the case.

[Ciphrus]

Well...its who we are. People have nothing else to do but make others feel bad and well...you know hate in their free time. Its not much of a surprise. But Haters gotta hate

[The Sons of Thomas]

Hate cannot just begone in thin air, hate is human. Everyone hates some thing some time; its only human just like lying to protect your self.

[Ciphrus]

Hate cannot just begone in thin air, hate is human. Everyone hates some thing some time; its only human just like lying to protect your self.

I think your totally right. Like I hate certain songs. And books. And movies. Its there. And we have to deal with it, its not like its going to go away, even if we dont realize its there in the first place.


HATE. ITS THERE.

[Anti-Obamaland]

As someone who's moved around the political spectrum quite a way, from a socially conservative one nation Tory to social libertarian on the center left. Something that I have realized is that when arguing from either perspective the politics of HATE dominates. The people on the left hate the right, the people on the right hate the left. "We should piss on Thatchers grave" "Thieving Lefties" ETC. Dogmatically voting for a single party all their lives. Would it not be better if we forget the factions for just a minute and pointed out at what is the 'best'' way forward? I know I described myself as a social libertarian but I detest summarizing my 'ideology' as it just creates factionalism. Now my rant is over the question is posed ... What is with all the hate ? are you on the left hating on the right or visa-versa ? do you agree with me that there is to much factionalism in politics and we should resolve it ... if so HOW ?

I blame the extremes on both sides of the political aisle. Look at Obama, he's even losing some of the more progressive members of his party by making deals on the budget with the Republicans. Neither side wants what is best for the country as they'd rather have the power and fixing things? Really? That never crossed their minds.

[Northwest Slobovia]

Hate is easy. Understanding is difficult.

This, possibly with the addition, "Admitting, even to yourself, that you were wrong about one of your deeply-held beliefs is nearly impossible." If you blindly hate something, you dramatically lower the probability you'll have to admit you were wrong about it, and God knows we hate to do that.

[Foguk]

People hate the right, people hate the left. Its a fear response. Because you vote left or right, is because you think thats the best way forward. People who vote against you, you view as a threat to your safety and security. I hate the right, because I think thats the way to downfall.

[Conserative Morality]

Hate is easy. Understanding is difficult.

This, possibly with the addition, "Admitting, even to yourself, that you were wrong about one of your deeply-held beliefs is nearly impossible."

Gonna have to dispute that.

[Jolleus]

As someone who's moved around the political spectrum quite a way, from a socially conservative one nation Tory to social libertarian on the center left. Something that I have realized is that when arguing from either perspective the politics of HATE dominates. The people on the left hate the right, the people on the right hate the left. "We should piss on Thatchers grave" "Thieving Lefties" ETC. Dogmatically voting for a single party all their lives. Would it not be better if we forget the factions for just a minute and pointed out at what is the 'best'' way forward? I know I described myself as a social libertarian but I detest summarizing my 'ideology' as it just creates factionalism. Now my rant is over the question is posed ... What is with all the hate ? are you on the left hating on the right or visa-versa ? do you agree with me that there is to much factionalism in politics and we should resolve it ... if so HOW ?

I myself am liberal and libertarian, though not on the extreme side of either (my political compass is pretty close to the center). I don't hate other people just because of their political faction. There are certain members of other political factions that I hate because of their actions, but not because of their parties. Though it is sometimes fun to mock people with different political views than my own, I don't carry it over to hatred of a party. And, yes, I do weigh the harms and benefits of each candidate (and I'm sure that I'm not the only one that does so). I simply find that members of my preferred party address the issues that I care about more often.

[Waraqistan]

hey no what you are all haters and if any one keeps saying about this nazi crap dont make fun of them they are not always racists so shut up.