God died in Auschwitz

[Mavorpen]

fallacious argument: ad hominum, please do not feed the fallacious troll XD

Warning, above poster does not understand basic punctuation and grammatical rules.

[Vazdania]

God cannot be compared to a person, is my point

So god has no will and no intellect?

obviously he does. can we compare infinite intelligence and will to something that is limited?

[The Nuclear Fist]

obviously he does. can we compare infinite intelligence and will to something that is limited?

Yes. Azathoth, the one true god, doesn't care if you compare him to humans. He has infinite intelligence, but has limited perception of the goings on of such miniscule races like humans.

[Vazdania]

fallacious argument: ad hominum, please do not feed the fallacious troll XD

Warning, above poster does not understand basic punctuation and grammatical rules.

I may sink to a fallacious attack here, but, at least I do not use a fallacious argument every time I post

[Tlaceceyaya]

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I may sink to a fallacious attack here, but, at least I do not use a fallacious argument every time I post

No, you don't use a fallacious argument. Your argument consists of the word fallacy.

[Vazdania]

I may sink to a fallacious attack here, but, at least I do not use a fallacious argument every time I post

No, you don't use a fallacious argument. Your argument consists of the word fallacy.

best burn ever. good one ^_^

[Seperates]

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I may sink to a fallacious attack here, but, at least I do not use a fallacious argument every time I post

Look, the post you commented on was not trolling. If you think that is trolling, then you do not know how to form an effective arguement because you cannot know one when you see one and your time is mis-spent here. You should be in school learning how to debate.

Otherwise, you are just trolling.

[Mavorpen]

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I may sink to a fallacious attack here, but, at least I do not use a fallacious argument every time I post

Lolno, I was giving you an example of a true fallacious argument. You failed to acknowledge the difference between showing your posts to be bullshit and simply attacking you.

[Vazdania]

I may sink to a fallacious attack here, but, at least I do not use a fallacious argument every time I post

Lolno, I was giving you an example of a true fallacious argument. You failed to acknowledge the difference between showing your posts to be bullshit and simply attacking you.

lolno, you failed to recognize youre a troll.

[Seperates]

Lolno, I was giving you an example of a true fallacious argument. You failed to acknowledge the difference between showing your posts to be bullshit and simply attacking you.

lolno, you failed to recognize youre a troll.

*sighs* Stop the projection please. It's getting tiresome.

[Crystalcliff Point]

lolno, you failed to recognize youre a troll.

Are you EVER going to respond to my post of scientific (And mathematical) inconsistencies in the bible, along with its internal contradictions or are you just going to blissfully continue to ignore it?

[Genivaria]

lolno, you failed to recognize youre a troll.

Are you EVER going to respond to my post of scientific (And mathematical) inconsistencies in the bible, along with its internal contradictions or are you just going to blissfully continue to ignore it?

He doesn't like to confront his opponent's arguments. I should know, I've been trying to get him to do just that.

[Distruzio]

lolno, you failed to recognize youre a troll.

Are you EVER going to respond to my post of scientific (And mathematical) inconsistencies in the bible, along with its internal contradictions or are you just going to blissfully continue to ignore it?

Was the bible written by men educated in the ways of contemporary sciences? Am I to presume that b/c St. Paul was not a mathematician that I am to scoff at his input on the role of the Church in my life? I'm honestly not mocking you. I'm genuinely asking how contemporary sciences and knowledge expose the bible as anything more than a non-scientific collection of non-scientific texts.

[Swag Jerusalem]

^ I agree with the poster above.

God is above science.

[Trotskylvania]

^ I agree with the poster above.

God is above science.

That was not his point

[New England and The Maritimes]

^ I agree with the poster above.

God is above science.

If "he" is imperceptible, why should I stop to think for even one second that "he" exists? Why should I take anyone's word that there is an invisible, incorporeal jet parked in front of my house? It's much less ridiculous to think that anyone who suggests such nonsense is a liar. Occam's razor, etc.

[Crystalcliff Point]

Was the bible written by men educated in the ways of contemporary sciences? Am I to presume that b/c St. Paul was not a mathematician that I am to scoff at his input on the role of the Church in my life? I'm honestly not mocking you. I'm genuinely asking how contemporary sciences and knowledge expose the bible as anything more than a non-scientific collection of non-scientific texts.

You see, if the bible was "divinely inspired" or the "word of god" it should probably be as factually accurate as possible in mundane affairs.

But there's a deeper problem than its scientific inaccuracies: It's not even internally consistent. The bible cannot even tell a consistent story within itself.

[Swag Jerusalem]

Well God isn't a big invisible jet, I can tell you that xD. And he's not invisible, if you pray, you can feel his precense, he can communicate with you in various ways. I mean before anyone goes and calls me schizophrenic I don't mean I met him in the form of a janitor, and we had a 1x1 conversation.

I know he exists because of his love, and that's good enough for me. The Bible is consistent.

[Trotskylvania]

Well God isn't a big invisible jet, I can tell you that xD. And he's not invisible, if you pray, you can feel his precense, he can communicate with you in various ways. I mean before anyone goes and calls me schizophrenic I don't mean I met him in the form of a janitor, and we had a 1x1 conversation.

I know he exists because of his love, and that's good enough for me. The Bible is consistent.

If the Bible were consistent, there would need to be Church doctrines to explain and interpret it, and there wouldn't be tens of thousands of Christian denominations.

[Swag Jerusalem]

Ah, because I believe God wants us to make our own choice. He explains things, but in ways that we can make our own assumptions. Personally I think think we shouldn't have denominations, I consider myself Christian just a regular average joe Christian. Plus there's so much proof about Christians, and it's completely unique.

[Crystalcliff Point]

I know he exists because of his love, and that's good enough for me. The Bible is consistent.

Alright, then I'll post the inconsistencies for you.

God is satisfied with his works

God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

God is dissatisfied with his works.

The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.

God dwells in chosen temples

The LORD appeared to him at night and said:

“I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for myself as a temple for sacrifices... I have chosen and consecrated this temple so that my Name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there..."

God dwells not in temples

“However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:

God dwells in light

who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.

God dwells in darkness

Then Solomon said, “The LORD has said that he would dwell in a dark cloud;

He made darkness his covering, his canopy around him— the dark rain clouds of the sky.

Clouds and thick darkness surround him;
righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne.

God is tired and rests

It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.’”

God is never tired and never rests

Do you not know?
Have you not heard?
The LORD is the everlasting God,
the Creator of the ends of the earth.
He will not grow tired or weary,
and his understanding no one can fathom.

The best part is that this is only scrapping the tip of the inconsistencies. I could honestly keep going and going. Like a certain bunny.

[Norstal]

Ah, because I believe God wants us to make our own choice. He explains things, but in ways that we can make our own assumptions. Personally I think think we shouldn't have denominations, I consider myself Christian just a regular average joe Christian. Plus there's so much proof about Christians, and it's completely unique.

That's not the Christian god then. You believe in your own god, which was constructed from Christian teachings.

Notice how all Christians believe in different gods. One group (WBC) believes in a god that "hates fags". One group believes in a god that condones the marriage of more than 1 woman (Mormon). Two groups, Orthodox and Catholics, don't even have the same dogma.

Your proof are your own. No one can refute it. Therefore, they're your god, but not the Bible's god.

[Norstal]

I know he exists because of his love, and that's good enough for me. The Bible is consistent.

Alright, then I'll post the inconsistencies for you.

God is satisfied with his works

God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

God is dissatisfied with his works.

The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.

God dwells in chosen temples

The LORD appeared to him at night and said:

“I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for myself as a temple for sacrifices... I have chosen and consecrated this temple so that my Name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there..."

God dwells not in temples

“However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:

God dwells in light

who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.

God dwells in darkness

Then Solomon said, “The LORD has said that he would dwell in a dark cloud;

He made darkness his covering, his canopy around him— the dark rain clouds of the sky.

Clouds and thick darkness surround him;
righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne.

God is tired and rests

It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.’”

God is never tired and never rests

Do you not know?
Have you not heard?
The LORD is the everlasting God,
the Creator of the ends of the earth.
He will not grow tired or weary,
and his understanding no one can fathom.

The best part is that this is only scrapping the tip of the inconsistencies. I could honestly keep going and going. Like a certain bunny.

I'm pretty much done trying to convince Christians that their god is full of inconsistencies. They won't see it and they will never learn. I don't know what it is that makes them impervious to these types of arguments. Maybe they're trolling.

Instead, try to convince that their god is not the Christian god. Which, it isn't as shown by your inconsistency.

It's Leibniz's law. If A does not have the same characteristics as B, then A is not B.

[Swag Jerusalem]

No I believe in Jesus. I know what he taught, he wants us to follow what he said, and be Christ-like, and most importantly love one another. The Bible has only one God, and that's the one I serve. God gave us instructions, he wants us to follow them, but I believe they can be interpreted different ways, although with the right amount of study the right way is simple to figure out.

Also true Christians believe in one god, Jesus Christ. WBC are not true christians, they preach hatred. Jesus walked with everyone, prostitutes and all, do you really think someone like that would condemn gays?

Luke 6:37
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

Condemning people is not a biblical principle, it is one that homophobic and misguided church leaders however try to lead people to believe is in the Bible. Which in turn puts people against the Lord. Catholics have distorted the faith, and mormons are a complete and utter mockery of the truth. Even Bill Maher has admitted mormons and scientiologists have taken religion a step too far.

[Crystalcliff Point]

Condemning people is not a biblical principle, it is one that homophobic and misguided church leaders however try to lead people to believe is in the Bible. Which in turn puts people against the Lord. Catholics have distorted the faith, and mormons are a complete and utter mockery of the truth. Even Bill Maher has admitted mormons and scientiologists have taken religion a step too far.

It's fantastic that you're against condemning people (And then move on to condemn people... Wait, what?)

But regardless. Are you going to respond to the list of inconsistencies I listed? Or will you, too, ignore them?