God died in Auschwitz

[Mavorpen]

Sounds like a dictator.

just because you dont want to pay taxes does not excuse you from doing so.

There's nothing bad about not following God. If you don't pay taxes however, the government cannot protect you, provide services, etc.

[Vazdania]

fallacious arguement: ad hominum
please atttack the argument not the person

Please put forth a rebuttal instead of screaming, "FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT!" Until then, you don't deserve a coherent argument.

please stop making fallacious arguments and rebuttels then, nor am i screaming them

[Vazdania]

just because you dont want to pay taxes does not excuse you from doing so.

There's nothing bad about not following God. If you don't pay taxes however, the government cannot protect you, provide services, etc.

if you dont fallow God, he cannot protect you, provide services, etc.

[Genivaria]

^Very Authoritarian.

Does it matter, again just because you dont want to pay taxes does not excuse you from doing so

Yes, it does matter. I'm allowed to have some sway over who I owe allegiance to.

I'm reminded of a line from the new Robin Hood film.

Robin Longstride: If you're building for the future, you need to keep your foundations strong, laws of the land enslave the people to a king who demands loyalty but offers nothing in return, I've been to the South of France, Palestine and back, you build a kingdom the same way you build a cathedral from the ground up!

Why should I owe loyalty to someone who gives me nothing? Why should I obey someone who so willingly slaughters innocents.

[Mavorpen]

There's nothing bad about not following God. If you don't pay taxes however, the government cannot protect you, provide services, etc.

if you dont fallow God, he cannot protect you, provide services, etc.

Yes he can. He just chooses not to.

[Mavorpen]

Please put forth a rebuttal instead of screaming, "FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT!" Until then, you don't deserve a coherent argument.

please stop making fallacious arguments and rebuttels then, nor am i screaming them

I'm not. You are by stating everything that proves you wrong is a fallacious argument. Who taught you that word...?

[Genivaria]

There's nothing bad about not following God. If you don't pay taxes however, the government cannot protect you, provide services, etc.

if you dont fallow God, he cannot protect you, provide services, etc.

I'm ok with that, seeing as how I had no protection or services when I believed. I lost nothing.

[Vazdania]

Does it matter, again just because you dont want to pay taxes does not excuse you from doing so

Yes, it does matter. I'm allowed to have some sway over who I owe allegiance to.

I'm reminded of a line from the new Robin Hood film.

Robin Longstride: If you're building for the future, you need to keep your foundations strong, laws of the land enslave the people to a king who demands loyalty but offers nothing in return, I've been to the South of France, Palestine and back, you build a kingdom the same way you build a cathedral from the ground up!

Why should I owe loyalty to someone who gives me nothing?

Noahic covenant. He gives you salvation.

[Genivaria]

please stop making fallacious arguments and rebuttels then, nor am i screaming them

I'm not. You are by stating everything that proves you wrong is a fallacious argument. Who taught you that word...?

He came here to preach, not to debate.

[Vazdania]

I'm not. You are by stating everything that proves you wrong is a fallacious argument. Who taught you that word...?

He came here to preach, not to debate.

Ive come to debate and again you make an fallacious argument ad hominum and I do so because the majority of you do so to illogically prove points

[Vazdania]

if you dont fallow God, he cannot protect you, provide services, etc.

I'm ok with that, seeing as how I had no protection or services when I believed. I lost nothing.

But you did?

[Crystalcliff Point]

So he knows all current things. present and past. He has given us free will to do be with him or to not be with him

What you're saying is incompatible with the bible.

By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.

I am God, and there is none like me,
declaring the end from the beginning
and from ancient times things not yet done.

He knows what'll happen long, LONG in advance. Almost as if he knows everything that will happen.

Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O LORD, you know it altogether.

This one's a little more specific,

For that matter, where was he when the serpent was convincing Eve to eat the fruit of the knowledge good and evil? Clearly on omnipresent if he wasn't there. Clearly not omniscient if he didn't know if. Or clearly not omnibenevolent if he did nothing and knew.

Does God know or does He not know that a certain individual will be good or bad? If thou sayest 'He knows', then it necessarily follows that [that] man is compelled to act as God knew beforehand he would act, otherwise God's knowledge would be imperfect.…"

your making up a conclusion. a fallacious argument

No, I'm not. You have no rebuttal and thus must yell "LOGICAL FALLACY!". Which logical fallacy is it? What I said logically follows.

Ive come to debate and again you make an fallacious argument ad hominum and I do so because the majority of you do so to illogically prove points

Which logical fallacy?

[The USOT]

if you dont fallow God, he cannot protect you, provide services, etc.

Yes he can. He just chooses not to.

Its a shame this point was ignored. Im not saying its an utterly amazing point, but it is very relevant to the topic.

[Genivaria]

I'm ok with that, seeing as how I had no protection or services when I believed. I lost nothing.

But you did?

Was that a question? The answer is no.

[Mavorpen]

Yes he can. He just chooses not to.

Its a shame this point was ignored. Im not saying its an utterly amazing point, but it is very relevant to the topic.

I'm surprised Vazdania didn't say, "FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT!"

[Vazdania]

Its a shame this point was ignored. Im not saying its an utterly amazing point, but it is very relevant to the topic.

I'm surprised Vazdania didn't say, "FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT!"

fallacious argument ad hominum why do you make these so often I wonder?

[Genivaria]

He came here to preach, not to debate.

Ive come to debate and again you make an fallacious argument ad hominum and I do so because the majority of you do so to illogically prove points

It isn't an ad hominum, its an observation. Countless times I've seen you completely dismiss or ignore points made by your opponents.
Pointing out that you are blind to any view except your view is not a fallacy, it is a fact.

[Mavorpen]

I'm surprised Vazdania didn't say, "FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT!"

fallacious argument ad hominum why do you make these so often I wonder?

Because it's fun to troll you.

[Genivaria]

fallacious argument ad hominum why do you make these so often I wonder?

Because it's fun to troll you.

Really? I thought Vazdania was the troll.

[Vazdania]

fallacious argument ad hominum why do you make these so often I wonder?

Because it's fun to troll you.

really XD i thought i was boring

[Mavorpen]

Because it's fun to troll you.

really XD i thought i was boring

Well, it's losing it's luster honestly. At first I thought you were joking with the whole "fallacious argument" thing.

[Crystalcliff Point]

really XD i thought i was boring

Are you ever going to declare which logical fallacy I committed or just say "fallacious argument" every single way without explaining how?

'cause if you go Route #2, I'll just censor "fallacious argument" to "I concede" and you won't even be able to trade your abra for a Mr. Mime. Wait, what?

[Galloism]

Actually, the words "all-knowing" and "omnipotent" do not appear in the Bible as referring to God. He is referred to as possessing limitless energy, though.

"For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things." 1 John 3:20

Sounds all knowing to me.

One can infer from context that it refers to current things, given the condemnation of the heart is a current thing.

It is not necessarily inferring future things.

[Arbites]

I'm ok with that, seeing as how I had no protection or services when I believed. I lost nothing.

But you did?

Source?

[Crystalcliff Point]

One can infer from context that it refers to current things, given the condemnation of the heart is a current thing.

It is not necessarily inferring future things.

Read my post. It actually contains references to knowing future events.