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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:03 pm

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Galloism wrote:1) I'll Address this first, where Lucifer is cast to earth is in Revelation Chapter 12:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/rev012.htm

After being cast to Earth, the Dragon goes to war against those with the teachings of Jesus Christ. The absolute earliest that this would have been able to occur is sometime after Jesus' teaching began (29 CE, by common belief).

Abyssing does not occur until chapter 20...

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20&version=KJV

After Satan's abyssed, the first resurrection of the dead occurs. In addition, Satan was only to be abyssed for 1,000 years.

2) Defying someone's authority is challenging said authority. It's really not anymore straightforward than that.

it never says anything about the dragon going to war with the those with the teachings of Jesus Christ

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:04 pm

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Chinese Regions wrote:And who made Satan? Knowing he would fall? Knowing how humanity and everything would also fall?

How do you presuppose that Satan's falling was predestined?

The Bible preaches pretty heavily against predestination and pretty heavily for free will.

An all-knowing deity, a deity who knows what will happen as well as is and was happening cancels out all free will.
Free will doesn't exist anyway, the fact that Christianity has said god is all knowing just strengthens that fact.
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Galloism wrote:How do you presuppose that Satan's falling was predestined?

The Bible preaches pretty heavily against predestination and pretty heavily for free will.

An all-knowing deity, a deity who knows what will happen as well as is and was happening cancels out all free will.
Free will doesn't exist anyway, the fact that Christianity has said god is all knowing just strengthens that fact.

Why do you suppose that God chooses to know everything that will happen down to the minutest detail?

We've been talking about biblical doctrine here, not necessarily the universe or beliefs as a whole. If you wish to bring something to the table, I suggest it have something to do with biblical doctrine.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:06 pm

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Chinese Regions wrote:And who made Satan? Knowing he would fall? Knowing how humanity and everything would also fall?

Lucifer was made by God, Lucifer himself fell on his own accord. causing humanity to fall.

God knew for definite his creations would fail.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:07 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Lucifer was made by God, Lucifer himself fell on his own accord. causing humanity to fall.

God knew for definite his creations would fail.

[Citation Needed]
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:09 pm

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Chinese Regions wrote:An all-knowing deity, a deity who knows what will happen as well as is and was happening cancels out all free will.
Free will doesn't exist anyway, the fact that Christianity has said god is all knowing just strengthens that fact.

Why do you suppose that God chooses to know everything that will happen down to the minutest detail?

We've been talking about biblical doctrine here, not necessarily the universe or beliefs as a whole. If you wish to bring something to the table, I suggest it have something to do with biblical doctrine.

Because god is god he does know everything down to the minutest detail, otherwise he isn't an all-knowing, omnipotent and perfect deity
And you mentioned choose, either god is an asshole, forgetful or has selective memory.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:10 pm

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Chinese Regions wrote:God knew for definite his creations would fail.

[Citation Needed]

So you don't believe god is all-knowing or omnipotent? You believe he is imperfect?
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:13 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:
Galloism wrote:Why do you suppose that God chooses to know everything that will happen down to the minutest detail?

We've been talking about biblical doctrine here, not necessarily the universe or beliefs as a whole. If you wish to bring something to the table, I suggest it have something to do with biblical doctrine.

Because god is god he does know everything down to the minutest detail, otherwise he isn't an all-knowing, omnipotent and perfect deity
And you mentioned choose, either god is an asshole, forgetful or has selective memory.

Actually, the words "all-knowing" and "omnipotent" do not appear in the Bible as referring to God. He is referred to as possessing limitless energy, though.

Indeed, given he takes suggestions from his angels, and asks them questions, one could safely presume he is not or, perhaps more likely, chooses not to be all-knowing, so as to preserve free will in the universe.

After all, being all knowing means all things are predestined. It's a simple fact that you cannot make choices if God already knows what they're going to be.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:13 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:
Galloism wrote:[Citation Needed]

So you don't believe god is all-knowing or omnipotent? You believe he is imperfect?

What is perfection, really?
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:17 pm

Galloism wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Because god is god he does know everything down to the minutest detail, otherwise he isn't an all-knowing, omnipotent and perfect deity
And you mentioned choose, either god is an asshole, forgetful or has selective memory.

Actually, the words "all-knowing" and "omnipotent" do not appear in the Bible as referring to God. He is referred to as possessing limitless energy, though.

Indeed, given he takes suggestions from his angels, and asks them questions, one could safely presume he is not or, perhaps more likely, chooses not to be all-knowing, so as to preserve free will in the universe.

After all, being all knowing means all things are predestined. It's a simple fact that you cannot make choices if God already knows what they're going to be.
We make choices based on past events, the past events were predestined therefore our choices based on them are too, free will does not exist.
If you put an all-knowing deity such as god in then that strengthens it facts.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:18 pm

Galloism wrote:Actually, the words "all-knowing" and "omnipotent" do not appear in the Bible as referring to God. He is referred to as possessing limitless energy, though.

"For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things." 1 John 3:20

Sounds all knowing to me.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:20 pm

Galloism wrote:
Vazdania wrote:it never says anything about the dragon going to war with the those with the teachings of Jesus Christ

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Read better.

this could have happened at anytime then. if we suggest that it was after though you are correct it would be around 29 AD
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Postby Crystalcliff Point » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:23 pm

Vazdania wrote:Lucifer was made by God, Lucifer himself fell on his own accord. causing humanity to fall.

Why are you quoting Paradise Lost at us?

Galloism wrote:[Citation Needed]

It's really quite simple. Here's how it goes.

1. God is omniscient.
2. Because God is omniscient, he knows exactly what will happen. He knows what we'll eat for breakfast, he knew Eve would eat the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil.
3. If he didn't know Eve would eat the fruit, he wouldn't be Omniscient.
4. He placed the fruit in the garden of eden knowing full well it would be eaten by Eve. And then by Adam.

He either set humanity up for failure, or set the conditions knowing we would fail and didn't care. He's either evil or apathetic.

Galloism wrote:Why do you suppose that God chooses to know everything that will happen down to the minutest detail?

We've been talking about biblical doctrine here, not necessarily the universe or beliefs as a whole. If you wish to bring something to the table, I suggest it have something to do with biblical doctrine.

See, he would have to know everything. That's the definition of omniscient.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:24 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Galloism wrote:Actually, the words "all-knowing" and "omnipotent" do not appear in the Bible as referring to God. He is referred to as possessing limitless energy, though.

"For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things." 1 John 3:20

Sounds all knowing to me.

So he knows all current things. present and past. He has given us free will to do be with him or to not be with him
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:25 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:"For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things." 1 John 3:20

Sounds all knowing to me.

So he knows all current things. present and past. He has given us free will to do be with him or to not be with him


And then punishing us for not being with him is what a dictator would do.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:25 pm

Crystalcliff Point wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Lucifer was made by God, Lucifer himself fell on his own accord. causing humanity to fall.

Why are you quoting Paradise Lost at us?

Galloism wrote:[Citation Needed]

It's really quite simple. Here's how it goes.

1. God is omniscient.
2. Because God is omniscient, he knows exactly what will happen. He knows what we'll eat for breakfast, he knew Eve would eat the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil.
3. If he didn't know Eve would eat the fruit, he wouldn't be Omniscient.
4. He placed the fruit in the garden of eden knowing full well it would be eaten by Eve. And then by Adam.

He either set humanity up for failure, or set the conditions knowing we would fail and didn't care. He's either evil or apathetic.

Galloism wrote:Why do you suppose that God chooses to know everything that will happen down to the minutest detail?

We've been talking about biblical doctrine here, not necessarily the universe or beliefs as a whole. If you wish to bring something to the table, I suggest it have something to do with biblical doctrine.

See, he would have to know everything. That's the definition of omniscient.

your making up a conclusion. a fallacious argument
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Vazdania wrote:your making up a conclusion. a fallacious argument


Translation: I have no rebuttal.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:27 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Vazdania wrote:So he knows all current things. present and past. He has given us free will to do be with him or to not be with him


And then punishing us for not being with him is what a dictator would do.

And? God is God, he has commanded us to be with him. just because you dont want to, does not excuse from his commandenment
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:28 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Vazdania wrote:your making up a conclusion. a fallacious argument


Translation: I have no rebuttal.

fallacious arguement: ad hominum
please atttack the argument not the person
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Vazdania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
And then punishing us for not being with him is what a dictator would do.

And? God is God, he has commanded us to be with him. just because you dont want to, does not excuse from his commandenment


Sounds like a dictator.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman
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Vazdania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Translation: I have no rebuttal.

fallacious arguement: ad hominum
please atttack the argument not the person


Please put forth a rebuttal instead of screaming, "FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT!" Until then, you don't deserve a coherent argument.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:29 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
And then punishing us for not being with him is what a dictator would do.

And? God is God, he has commanded us to be with him. just because you dont want to, does not excuse from his commandenment

^Very Authoritarian.
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Mavorpen wrote:
Vazdania wrote:And? God is God, he has commanded us to be with him. just because you dont want to, does not excuse from his commandenment


Sounds like a dictator.

just because you dont want to pay taxes does not excuse you from doing so.
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Mavorpen wrote:
Sounds like a dictator.

just because you dont want to pay taxes does not excuse you from doing so.

The fuck?
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Genivaria wrote:
Vazdania wrote:And? God is God, he has commanded us to be with him. just because you dont want to, does not excuse from his commandenment

^Very Authoritarian.

Does it matter, again just because you dont want to pay taxes does not excuse you from doing so
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