ACORN and Prostitution

[Lunatic Goofballs]

so according to fox, this is allegedly an independent filmmaker setting up a sting against acorn, which makes more sense for the right-wing crazies. nm just can't express ideas well. but i'd like to know the whole context and how many people they had to talk to before finding some that worked for this.

Ohhhhh.....

Yeah, I guess not.

Just out of curiosity, why 'break' this story on a blog? That's going to make the credibility questionable. I know I'm questioning it.

Bloggers have been performing "citizen journalism" in light of the failure by our corporate media, and some of them have been doing an excellent job of it. Just because it's been scooped by a blogger doesn't invalidate the information, but it does beg for independent verification. If all the news sites are simply basing their news off one source (like Drudge) then I think we can safely dismiss it as partisan bullshit.

I don't hold blog news in particularly high regard. That goes for all blog news. I'll wait for independent corroboration. *nod*

[Treznor]

Just out of curiosity, why 'break' this story on a blog? That's going to make the credibility questionable. I know I'm questioning it.

Bloggers have been performing "citizen journalism" in light of the failure by our corporate media, and some of them have been doing an excellent job of it. Just because it's been scooped by a blogger doesn't invalidate the information, but it does beg for independent verification. If all the news sites are simply basing their news off one source (like Drudge) then I think we can safely dismiss it as partisan bullshit.

I don't hold blog news in particularly high regard. That goes for all blog news. I'll wait for independent corroboration. *nod*

That's perfectly fair.

[Jello Biafra]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

[Free Soviets]

wait, baltimore. oh, that makes it all make sense - this could very well be legit. i mean, have you seen the wire? sheeeeeit.

[Gift-of-god]

The people playing the sex worker and the congressman are obviously leading them into saying things that can sound questionable if taken out of context. The film is then edited to isolate those comments.

This is awfully amateurish.

[Gauthier]

I'll believe this when I see it reported by someone other than a blogger and fox news.

Like Chris Hansen?

[Sibirsky]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Probably for the same reason they're expected to fund Blackwater and Halliburton.

[New Mitanni]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Probably for the same reason they're expected to fund Blackwater and Halliburton.

LG, are you deliberately trying to be obtuse or do you actually think that's a valid analogy? Because you've got big problems either way.

[New Mitanni]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Probably for the same reason they're expected to fund Blackwater and Halliburton.

LG, are you deliberately trying to be obtuse or do you actually think that's a valid analogy? Because you've got big problems either way.

[Treznor]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Maybe because it defeats the purpose of a representative democracy if people don't vote? Of course, they can't vote if they're not registered, which is the purpose of ACORN in the first place: to get people registered among demographics that traditionally have low voter turnout.

ACORN has been vilified and misrepresented by the Right for some time now. Why are we supposed to take these accusations seriously?

[Jello Biafra]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Well, aiding child prostution isn't what ACORN's main activities are. What ACORN does - voter registration, etc., needs to go on and be funded.

[New Mitanni]

so according to fox, this is allegedly an independent filmmaker setting up a sting against acorn, which makes more sense for the right-wing crazies. nm just can't express ideas well. but i'd like to know the whole context and how many people they had to talk to before finding some that worked for this.

Ohhhhh.....

Yeah, I guess not.

Just out of curiosity, why 'break' this story on a blog? That's going to make the credibility questionable. I know I'm questioning it.

Bloggers have been performing "citizen journalism" in light of the failure by our corporate media, and some of them have been doing an excellent job of it. Just because it's been scooped by a blogger doesn't invalidate the information, but it does beg for independent verification. If all the news sites are simply basing their news off one source (like Drudge) then I think we can safely dismiss it as partisan bullshit.

I don't hold blog news in particularly high regard. That goes for all blog news. I'll wait for independent corroboration. *nod*

Yes, of course, it was all staged. Right. Faked video, phony workers, biased investigator. Gee, why didn't I notice that?

[The Cat-Tribe]

ACORN workers in Baltimore have been captured on video assisting an undercover investigator posing as a man trying to set up a child-prostitution operation using under-age Salvadoran illegal aliens:

http://biggovernment.breitbart.com/

Your eyes are not deceiving you: ACORN workers encouraged disguising the child prostitutes as “exchange students.” This, following numerous criminal cases pending against the group for voter fraud and other offenses. For example: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09 ... d-charges/

ACORN has received millions in federal tax dollars to fund its activities, and is in line to receive millions more.

What should be done about ACORN?

Edit: corrected the link. Should work now. Also added a voter-fraud case link.

1. Although the videotape is clearly heavily edited, the conduct of the two ACORN staffers is indefensible. They should be fired.

2. ACORN has some 1,200 offices. The "filmmaker" allegedly shopped around to find staffers that acted inappropriately. It is utterly ridiculous to smear ACORN based on the actions of two staffers.

3. The voter fraud in question WAS REPORTED TO THE AUTHORITIES BY ACORN. Not part of some conspiracy by ACORN.

4. ACORN's activities are not funded by federal tax dollars. ACORN has never recieved direct aid from the federal government. A few times other organizations recieving federal funds have hired ACORN to perform specific services. These services, such as lead paint removal, have nothing to do with voter registration.

[Treznor]

so according to fox, this is allegedly an independent filmmaker setting up a sting against acorn, which makes more sense for the right-wing crazies. nm just can't express ideas well. but i'd like to know the whole context and how many people they had to talk to before finding some that worked for this.

Ohhhhh.....

Yeah, I guess not.

Just out of curiosity, why 'break' this story on a blog? That's going to make the credibility questionable. I know I'm questioning it.

Bloggers have been performing "citizen journalism" in light of the failure by our corporate media, and some of them have been doing an excellent job of it. Just because it's been scooped by a blogger doesn't invalidate the information, but it does beg for independent verification. If all the news sites are simply basing their news off one source (like Drudge) then I think we can safely dismiss it as partisan bullshit.

I don't hold blog news in particularly high regard. That goes for all blog news. I'll wait for independent corroboration. *nod*

Yes, of course, it was all staged. Right. Faked video, phony workers, biased investigator. Gee, why didn't I notice that?

Possibly because you keep insisting that Fox News is an unbiased media outlet.

[Sibirsky]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Probably for the same reason they're expected to fund Blackwater and Halliburton.

ACORN feeds our troops and provides support services for the military? That's news to me.

ACORN leadership is nothing but scum. Some of the lower ranking people actually have the right idea, and good intentions, but they are overshadowed by the scum at the top.

[Ashmoria]

ACORN workers in Baltimore have been captured on video assisting an undercover investigator posing as a man trying to set up a child-prostitution operation using under-age Salvadoran illegal aliens:

http://biggovernment.breitbart.com/

Your eyes are not deceiving you: ACORN workers encouraged disguising the child prostitutes as “exchange students.” This, following numerous criminal cases pending against the group for voter fraud and other offenses. For example: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09 ... d-charges/

ACORN has received millions in federal tax dollars to fund its activities, and is in line to receive millions more.

What should be done about ACORN?

Edit: corrected the link. Should work now. Also added a voter-fraud case link.

i saw a bit of this on foxnews this morning.

what a hoot!

has acorn responded yet?

[Dimoniquid]

I'll believe this when I see it reported by someone other than a blogger and fox news.

Now just because such a potentially huge story was broken first by a blog, Fox News only references that blog as a source and they have a reputation for not thoroughly fact checking stories that fall into certain -shall we say- niches, is no reason to....

....what was I talking about?

Your mother!
Oh snap! Ice burn!

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Probably for the same reason they're expected to fund Blackwater and Halliburton.

LG, are you deliberately trying to be obtuse or do you actually think that's a valid analogy? Because you've got big problems either way.

I'm just saying that if accusations of corruption is enough, why only focus one company with accusations of corruption? Why not focus on companies that actually are corrupt? For example; guess who got fined in the early 1990s for selling pulse neutron generators to Libya in the early 1990s? I'll give you a hint; their name rhymes with Walliburton. *nod* http://www.allbusiness.com/government/g ... 553-1.html

But I can see why the government would want to distance itself from corrupt companies.

[Sibirsky]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Maybe because it defeats the purpose of a representative democracy if people don't vote? Of course, they can't vote if they're not registered, which is the purpose of ACORN in the first place: to get people registered among demographics that traditionally have low voter turnout.

ACORN has been vilified and misrepresented by the Right for some time now. Why are we supposed to take these accusations seriously?

You mean signing up the Dallas Cowboys team to vote in Nevada? Or Mickey Mouse and Daffey Duck? Yes, I can see how CARTOON characters have low voter turnout. What, without this organization people do not realize that they are eligible to vote? Perhaps we should have compulsory voting like elsewhere? Again, I do not see why this organization should be taxpayer funded.

[Sibirsky]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Well, aiding child prostution isn't what ACORN's main activities are. What ACORN does - voter registration, etc., needs to go on and be funded.

Do you see anything about prostitution in my statement? The point is the organization is corrupt, and taxpayers should not be expected to fund it.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Probably for the same reason they're expected to fund Blackwater and Halliburton.

ACORN feeds our troops and provides support services for the military? That's news to me.

ACORN leadership is nothing but scum. Some of the lower ranking people actually have the right idea, and good intentions, but they are overshadowed by the scum at the top.

Acorn got fined for selling pulse neutron generators to Libya in the early 1990s. Oh, wait. That was Halliburton. I always confuse those two.

[Curvaceous Women]

ACORN AND LIBERALS ARE EVIL

[New Mitanni]

Fire the acorn workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan.
Keep funding ACORN, this was just an aberration.

Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization. Even if it wasn't, why should taxpayers be expected to fund this?

Probably for the same reason they're expected to fund Blackwater and Halliburton.

LG, are you deliberately trying to be obtuse or do you actually think that's a valid analogy? Because you've got big problems either way.

I'm just saying that if accusations of corruption is enough, why only focus one company with accusations of corruption? Why not focus on companies that actually are corrupt? For example; guess who got fined in the early 1990s for selling pulse neutron generators to Libya in the early 1990s? I'll give you a hint; their name rhymes with Walliburton. *nod* http://www.allbusiness.com/government/g ... 553-1.html

But I can see why the government would want to distance itself from corrupt companies.

And I say you're bending over backwards not to criticize an organization that works on your side of the political spectrum.

If you say the video is phony, produce evidence to support that charge. Otherwise, deal with the facts as they've been presented.

ACORN should be put out of business under the RICO Act at the very least.

[Layarteb]

ACORN workers in Baltimore have been captured on video assisting an undercover investigator posing as a man trying to set up a child-prostitution operation using under-age Salvadoran illegal aliens:

http://biggovernment.breitbart.com/

Your eyes are not deceiving you: ACORN workers encouraged disguising the child prostitutes as “exchange students.” This, following numerous criminal cases pending against the group for voter fraud and other offenses. For example: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09 ... d-charges/

ACORN has received millions in federal tax dollars to fund its activities, and is in line to receive millions more.

What should be done about ACORN?

Edit: corrected the link. Should work now. Also added a voter-fraud case link.

ACORN is the anti-democracy and so is the administration so really who's surprised?