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What should be done about ACORN?

Fire the ACORN workers who attempted to assist the undercover investigator's plan
42
18%
Tell the ACORN workers not to do it again
12
5%
Charge the ACORN workers in the video with conspiracy to abet prostitution
42
18%
No crime was advanced, since there was no meeting of minds, so no conspiracy
8
3%
Cut off all federal funding of ACORN activities, it’s a corrupt organization
66
28%
Keep funding ACORN, this was an aberration
16
7%
Hands off ACORN! Racist Republicans are after them just because they support Obama!
25
11%
Who cares?
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Total votes : 238

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Postby Treznor » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:58 am

New Mitanni wrote:Well, well, well, now it's up to THREE: ACORN in Brooklyn joins the pimp-advice business:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/broo ... ZhAEehLhmL

ACORN needs to be crushed, ground up and fed to livestock. That, or subject to RICO prosecution.

I'll concede that ACORN is a corrupt organization when you concede that the GOP is a breeding ground for homosexual politicians.

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Postby Ordo Mallus » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:01 am

New Mitanni wrote:Well, well, well, now it's up to THREE: ACORN in Brooklyn joins the pimp-advice business:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/broo ... ZhAEehLhmL

ACORN needs to be crushed, ground up and fed to livestock. That, or subject to RICO prosecution.
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Postby Tekania » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:03 am

New Mitanni wrote:Well, well, well, now it's up to THREE: ACORN in Brooklyn joins the pimp-advice business:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/broo ... ZhAEehLhmL

ACORN needs to be crushed, ground up and fed to livestock. That, or subject to RICO prosecution.


I will not be impressed until they show a video that has not been edited. Since they haven't... I'll assume their lying.
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Postby New Mitanni » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:13 am

Tekania wrote:
New Mitanni wrote:Well, well, well, now it's up to THREE: ACORN in Brooklyn joins the pimp-advice business:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/broo ... ZhAEehLhmL

ACORN needs to be crushed, ground up and fed to livestock. That, or subject to RICO prosecution.


I will not be impressed until they show a video that has not been edited. Since they haven't... I'll assume their lying.


You know what happens when you "assume," right? You make an ASS of U and possibly ME.

As for your being "impressed," nobody gives a rat's rear whether or not you find the evidence "impressive." ACORN, at least, found it impressive enough to fire four of its workers up to now. I'm sure that total will rise.

Oh, and I'm sure you demand "unedited" video on every story reported by every media outlet. :roll:
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Postby Ordo Mallus » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:23 am

and i believe the censis buero (don't know how to spell it lol) also finds this video so unbelievable they dropped ACORN from the 2009 censis.
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Postby Treznor » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:25 am

New Mitanni wrote:
Tekania wrote:
New Mitanni wrote:Well, well, well, now it's up to THREE: ACORN in Brooklyn joins the pimp-advice business:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/broo ... ZhAEehLhmL

ACORN needs to be crushed, ground up and fed to livestock. That, or subject to RICO prosecution.


I will not be impressed until they show a video that has not been edited. Since they haven't... I'll assume their lying.


You know what happens when you "assume," right? You make an ASS of U and possibly ME.

As for your being "impressed," nobody gives a rat's rear whether or not you find the evidence "impressive." ACORN, at least, found it impressive enough to fire four of its workers up to now. I'm sure that total will rise.

Oh, and I'm sure you demand "unedited" video on every story reported by every media outlet. :roll:

When it's created by filmmakers looking to make right-wing "documentaries" about organizations that promote voter registration, you bet I demand unedited video. Give me six hours of video time with you and I can edit you into a homosexual prostitute. You betcha!

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Postby Rhinoplastiasts » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:26 am

After starting a thread regarding a Republican sex scandal, I said that I'd start a thread when the next Democratic scandal showed up. You beat me to it.

The point is not that Fox News is a ridiculously biased excuse for a news organization. The point is not that the GOP dislikes ACORN because of their effectiveness in voter registration.

The point is that they appear to be colluding in the establishment of a child prostitution ring. I agree that the "reporters" have a high bar to get over given the history of the blogosphere and Fox News, but an investigation by a comptetent District Attorney should clear things up pretty quickly.

An additional concern that I have is that it seems that many of these social welfare programs have become self-interested power centers whose primary goal is to increase their funding and scope of authority. It's one of the reasons that I think that all social welfare programs, including ACORN, should be scrapped and their funding be made contingent on specific, measurable and verifiable results.

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Postby Ordo Mallus » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:27 am

Treznor wrote:When it's created by filmmakers looking to make right-wing "documentaries" about organizations that promote voter registration, you bet I demand unedited video. Give me six hours of video time with you and I can edit you into a homosexual prostitute. You betcha!


lol another believer that this was fake, wonder what it eats :blink:

ps. i hate coding
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Postby Rhinoplastiasts » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:31 am

Free Soviets wrote:
Ordo Mallus wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Ordo Mallus wrote:how about them fake votes?

What fake votes? There were fake registrations, but unless people actually showed up and claimed to be Mickey Mouse, there were no fake votes.

care to explain why a hand full of countys had more votes than population?

let's assume that all of these cases actually were instances of voter fraud. and let's further assume all of the fraud was aimed in one direction. unless you had tens of thousands of extra votes concentrated in exactly the right states, nothing changes on the presidential level. and even then, it wouldn't flip enough things to matter except if the race was already essentially a tie. so why fucking bother? doing this would require a massive conspiracy, and it doesn't actually accomplish anything most of the time even if you got away with it.

the right-wing nutjobs' acorn vote fraud conspiracy is both implausible and ineffective. why would anyone bother doing something so likely to get caught that doesn't even have a realistic chance of paying off? there are much better ways to rig a vote for anything larger than small town mayor. for example, electronically messing with the counting totals. or having your guys on the supreme court declare that vote counting is done when it is favorable to you to do so...


John Kennedy's Chicago surprise? Lyndon Johnson's phantom votes? George Bush's hanging chads (or not)? It's generally conceded that the manipulation of the right number of votes in the right place, at the right time can change the outcome of elections with national implications.

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Postby Treznor » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:33 am

Ordo Mallus wrote:
Treznor wrote:When it's created by filmmakers looking to make right-wing "documentaries" about organizations that promote voter registration, you bet I demand unedited video. Give me six hours of video time with you and I can edit you into a homosexual prostitute. You betcha!


lol another believer that this was fake, wonder what it eats :blink:

ps. i hate coding

Do I believe that it was fake? I'm reserving judgment until I hear from reporting sources that aren't looking to smear ACORN just because it's ACORN. Do I believe that ACORN employees can engage in this sort of criminal activity? You bet I do. Do I concede that this means ACORN is running a child prostitution ring? Only if you concede that the GOP turns politicians into homosexuals. We have much more data about GOP "family values" politicians being outed as homosexuals than we do ACORN management promoting prostitution rings.

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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:36 am

Treznor wrote:
New Mitanni wrote:Well, well, well, now it's up to THREE: ACORN in Brooklyn joins the pimp-advice business:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/broo ... ZhAEehLhmL

ACORN needs to be crushed, ground up and fed to livestock. That, or subject to RICO prosecution.

I'll concede that ACORN is a corrupt organization when you concede that the GOP is a breeding ground for homosexual politicians.

I'll concede that the GOP is a breeding ground for homosexual politicians when homosexuals start naturally breeding. :p
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Postby Ordo Mallus » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:42 am

no one else is reporting it other than for Fox News (for my knowledge)
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:47 am

Ordo Mallus wrote:no one else is reporting it other than for Fox News (for my knowledge)

Not a word in my newspaper for four days....
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Postby Treznor » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:51 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Treznor wrote:
New Mitanni wrote:Well, well, well, now it's up to THREE: ACORN in Brooklyn joins the pimp-advice business:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/broo ... ZhAEehLhmL

ACORN needs to be crushed, ground up and fed to livestock. That, or subject to RICO prosecution.

I'll concede that ACORN is a corrupt organization when you concede that the GOP is a breeding ground for homosexual politicians.

I'll concede that the GOP is a breeding ground for homosexual politicians when homosexuals start naturally breeding. :p

What, you think homosexuals spring out of the earth? Erupt from Zeus's head fully formed? They've got to be born somehow. Or is it that they're converted to become homosexuals? Maybe that's the true purpose of the GOP?

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Postby Ordo Mallus » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:58 am

and maybe gangs are supposed to bring world peace
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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:02 am

Ordo Mallus wrote:no one else is reporting it other than for Fox News (for my knowledge)

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Postby Ordo Mallus » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:04 am

^ then i have been corrected, i should then say heavily reported instead
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Postby NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:25 am

Ordo Mallus wrote:^ then i have been corrected, i should then say heavily reported instead

Google News http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f ... ostitution is a good source if you want to get a whole swath of media sources.
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Postby Ordo Mallus » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:31 am

^ then i have been corrected again lol then i should say it is not covered heavily (or at all) by the major news resources.
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Postby Tekania » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:33 am

New Mitanni wrote:You know what happens when you "assume," right? You make an ASS of U and possibly ME.

As for your being "impressed," nobody gives a rat's rear whether or not you find the evidence "impressive." ACORN, at least, found it impressive enough to fire four of its workers up to now. I'm sure that total will rise.

Oh, and I'm sure you demand "unedited" video on every story reported by every media outlet. :roll:


Tell you what, let's get together sometime, I'll bring my video camera... And a release for you to sign that will bar you for suing my for defamation later...

You'll be surprised what a good editing job can do, especially when you make someone provide an answer, which you attach to a different question in your report... Right questions (edited out later) shown behind my claims as to the questions asked, and I can make you look like the Nazi Arm of the Rainbow Coalition supporting Obama...

My point is, NO WHERE in their videos do they show a complete discourse... Why aren't THEY on camera asking the question? Why is only an answer shown? That indicates they are hiding something...
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Postby Rhinoplastiasts » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:35 am

Ordo Mallus wrote:^ then i have been corrected again lol then i should say it is not covered heavily (or at all) by the major news resources.


And does that speak to the credibility of the reporters or of the major news resources? (Not a rhetorical question)

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Postby Ordo Mallus » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:37 am

why aren't they on camera you ask? maybe the camera was a hidden camera??? maybe thats why they weren't seen asking the questions only heard? why make pointless points that can easily be shot down by the likes of me?
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Postby Tekania » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:41 am

Ordo Mallus wrote:why aren't they on camera you ask? maybe the camera was a hidden camera??? maybe thats why they weren't seen asking the questions only heard? why make pointless points that can easily be shot down by the likes of me?


They can be heard asking vaguely referenced following questions, but no where do they say "How do I hide the money from my child prostitution ring?" or "How do I keep my pimp from my money?"... We just hear the follow up answer to a question they claim they asked that they don't have in their video... That's what people do when they are trying to defame someone... Ask questions to provide the answer you want to show in reference to something else...

As for the "likes of you"... You should try addressing what I type, and actually show a knowledge of the footage presented before being so arrogant as to think you shooting anything down...
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Postby JuNii » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:35 am

Ordo Mallus wrote:^ then i have been corrected, i should then say heavily reported instead

it should be telling that the fact that you have proof that of tax evasion, as well as the illegal setting up of an underage brothel by several offices of an Organization that was a strong supporter of the current Administration gets this much coverage, yet a Republican who sleeps with a prostitute is plastered on every station for weeks on end.

as for the 'independant reporters'? I hear that Boston is planning on bringing up charges of illegal recordings on them.

add to that people asking about the validity of those recordings...

now I wonder, if they go through with this, consider all those cell phone vids taken. how many of them are edited and 'passed along'? how about Perverted Justice and the fact that their computers can be 'edited'. after all, no computer system is foolproof.

oh and if those vids are fake? why where the employees fired?
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Postby The Norse Hordes » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:40 am

New Mitanni wrote:Oh, and I'm sure you demand "unedited" video on every story reported by every media outlet. :roll:

Yes...yes I do.

But Im not suprised that the concept of consistancy is foreign to you.
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