SOPA

[Norstal]

You like to pay a film instead for downloading it for free?

I have never downloaded a film on my computer. I would not even know how to do it! I haven't gone to the cinema in years to see a film.

The file does NOT need to be on the server. A picture of a copyrighted material can be considered as piracy, according to SOPA (if I were to believe the provisions of the bill).

[Strykla]

Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia are down today! I can't fucking get any information!

[FreeLaannds]

I have never downloaded a film on my computer. I would not even know how to do it! I haven't gone to the cinema in years to see a film.

Why are you so for the SOPA?

I did not grow up with the internet. I didn't even have a computer until the past several years. I think that the internet should be protected, and those who have copywriting their works, should deserve their work from being illegally obtained.

[Farnhamia]

Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia are down today! I can't fucking get any information!

Did you just wake up?

[Farnhamia]

From my understanding about the reasons behind the SOPA and PIPA law, I have to say I support it. Why are so many Americans against it?

Anything that has copyrighted material can be shut down.



See, now this forum can be shut down by SOPA.

Could be, if it passed. Of course, the Mods will get you first.

[The lepearchauns]

From my understanding about the reasons behind the SOPA and PIPA law, I have to say I support it. Why are so many Americans against it?

We arent against the reasoning, but the language

The bill itself is written in a way that legitimate sites that have been trying to stop piracy get shut down. Its written in a way that corporations can shut down smaller competitors by manipulating them. Its written in a way that a more corrupt government than the one we have now could construe any quote as a copyright infringement...and it doesnt fix the problem

[Strykla]

Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia are down today! I can't fucking get any information!

Did you just wake up?

I've been doing math homework. I'm also starting to see why everybody hates the US government.

[Norstal]

Could be, if it passed. Of course, the Mods will get you first.

Norstal is a copyrighted name for a phone too. :<

[Frisbeeteria]

Uthopia, we can't stop you from visiting pirate sites, but you cannot promote illegal activity on our site. *** Knock it off *** or face bans and/or deletion.

Norstal, I also found similar advice under your name, so this also applies to you.

[Norstal]

Why are you so for the SOPA?

I did not grow up with the internet. I didn't even have a computer until the past several years. I think that the internet should be protected, and those who have copywriting their works, should deserve their work from being illegally obtained.

K, let me explain this in old people language.

You sing songs that you like down the road. Because of SOPA, if the real world is an internet, you will be arrested.

That's what SOPA is.

[Norstal]

Uthopia, we can't stop you from visiting pirate sites, but you cannot promote illegal activity on our site. *** Knock it off *** or face bans and/or deletion.

Norstal, I also found similar advice under your name, so this also applies to you.

It was a joke that anyone can be a pirate under SOPA...that anyone who shares files can be a pirate...

[Uthopia]

Why are you so for the SOPA?

I did not grow up with the internet. I didn't even have a computer until the past several years. I think that the internet should be protected, and those who have copywriting their works, should deserve their work from being illegally obtained.

Dude, are you kidding me?

[Farnhamia]

Could be, if it passed. Of course, the Mods will get you first.

Norstal is a copyrighted name for a phone too. :<

Let me know what prison they throw you in, I'll bake a file into a cake.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Daewoo Lanos?
*looks at nation name*

They might as well ban NS...

[Hittanryan]

Obama might veto SOPA, maybe, possibly. I mean, it might not even make it to his desk in the first place, given that Congressional support seems to be withering away. What I'm saying is, take the headline with a grain of salt:

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mc ... racy-bill/

[Norstal]

Norstal is a copyrighted name for a phone too. :<

Let me know what prison they throw you in, I'll bake a file into a cake.

http://fossil.wikia.com/wiki/Farnhamia

Seems like your name is under copyrighted material too, you pirate bastard. >:O

[The Pretend Pub]

From my understanding about the reasons behind the SOPA and PIPA law, I have to say I support it. Why are so many Americans against it?

Because the end does not justify the means.

Because "good intentions" does not mean "good outcomes."

Because even though we could probably put a pretty big dent in drunk driving by requiring everyone to call a cop to come over and administer a breathalyzer every time we wanted to drive someplace, that doesn't mean we should do it.

[Farnhamia]

Let me know what prison they throw you in, I'll bake a file into a cake.

http://fossil.wikia.com/wiki/Farnhamia

Seems like your name is under copyrighted material too, you pirate bastard. >:O

I don't think that sharing a name with a genus of extinct ammonites constitutes piracy. They would have precedence, of course, being older than even me.

[The lepearchauns]

I copyrighted my nation name...and I think NS is using it without my permission in some of those "issues"

[Hittanryan]

Why are you so for the SOPA?

I did not grow up with the internet. I didn't even have a computer until the past several years. I think that the internet should be protected, and those who have copywriting their works, should deserve their work from being illegally obtained.

The thing is, SOPA won't do that. Piracy will still happen, but now the Internet will basically be subject to corporate censorship through overly-broad "copyright infringement" definitions. So now, you'll have normal people being treated like criminals while the actual "pirates" (YARRRRR) will continue to get away with it.

[FreeLaannds]

I did not grow up with the internet. I didn't even have a computer until the past several years. I think that the internet should be protected, and those who have copywriting their works, should deserve their work from being illegally obtained.

K, let me explain this in old people language.

You sing songs that you like down the road. Because of SOPA, if the real world is an internet, you will be arrested.

That's what SOPA is.

I am still confused, why is the law meant to t argot illegal "file transfer" but ends up being entirely about censorship?

I did not grow up with the internet. I didn't even have a computer until the past several years. I think that the internet should be protected, and those who have copywriting their works, should deserve their work from being illegally obtained.

Dude, are you kidding me?

No, I am not. We did not even have computers when I was younger

[Uthopia]

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Uthopia, we can't stop you from visiting pirate sites, but you cannot promote illegal activity on our site. *** Knock it off *** or face bans and/or deletion.

With all due respect, the site is from Sweden and there it is not illegal.

[Uthopia]

No, I am not. We did not even have computers when I was younger

There are ways that you can download films for free. it is more better than paying 500 euros for it.

[The Pretend Pub]

K, let me explain this in old people language.

You sing songs that you like down the road. Because of SOPA, if the real world is an internet, you will be arrested.

That's what SOPA is.

I am still confused, why is the law meant to t argot illegal "file transfer" but ends up being entirely about censorship?

Because the particular means by which it purports to combat illegal filesharing essentially gives copyright owners a blank check to shut down, on their own initiative, any site they don't like simply by claiming (whether such claim is true or not) that the site contains copyright infringement, without giving the site owners any reasonable guarantee of practical access to due process to contest these claims (unless they happen to be very, very wealthy) or without regard to whether the site itself or merely one of its (possibly anonymous) users is actually responsible for the submission of copyrighted content (and without regard to whether the site owners themselves make good-faith efforts to remove copyrighted content when informed of its presence).

[Tubbsalot]

Uthopia, we can't stop you from visiting pirate sites, but you cannot promote illegal activity on our site. *** Knock it off *** or face bans and/or deletion.

With all due respect, the site is from Sweden and there it is not illegal.

That's irrelevant. According to the site rules, and probably according to the laws of the country the NS servers are located in, supporting pirate activity isn't allowed.

It's also pretty dickish to support piracy; when people work to produce a product, they deserve a reward. Piracy might be inevitable but that doesn't mean it's awesome.