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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:17 pm

Yes, this is about masturbation. Does anybody agree with me that masturbation is a sexist activity that involves the objectification of women? Does anybody else find the excuse that men "need" sex in the same way we need food to be laughably pathetic?

1. Masturbation involves thoughts 99% of the time. These thoughts are sexual. If a heterosexual male masturbates, does this not involve him objectifying women within his mind? How do we know that this won't lead to worse consequences later on? If he can masturbate and therefore objectify fantasy women, how long is it before he objectifies real women? How long is it until he rationalizes and excuses date rape? Where does it stop?

2. Do humans "need" sexual "release" in any meaningful way? I don't know, that one sounds like bullshit to me.
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Postby Saint Jade IV » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:17 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:Yes, this is about masturbation. Does anybody agree with me that masturbation is a sexist activity that involves the objectification of women? Does anybody else find the excuse that men "need" sex in the same way we need food to be laughably pathetic?

1. Masturbation involves thoughts 99% of the time. These thoughts are sexual. If a heterosexual male masturbates, does this not involve him objectifying women within his mind? How do we know that this won't lead to worse consequences later on? If he can masturbate and therefore objectify fantasy women, how long is it before he objectifies real women? How long is it until he rationalizes and excuses date rape? Where does it stop?

2. Do humans "need" sexual "release" in any meaningful way? I don't know, that one sounds like bullshit to me.


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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:18 pm

Women also masturbate.
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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:18 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:Yes, this is about masturbation. Does anybody agree with me that masturbation is a sexist activity that involves the objectification of women? Does anybody else find the excuse that men "need" sex in the same way we need food to be laughably pathetic?

1. Masturbation involves thoughts 99% of the time. These thoughts are sexual. If a heterosexual male masturbates, does this not involve him objectifying women within his mind? How do we know that this won't lead to worse consequences later on? If he can masturbate and therefore objectify fantasy women, how long is it before he objectifies real women? How long is it until he rationalizes and excuses date rape? Where does it stop?

2. Do humans "need" sexual "release" in any meaningful way? I don't know, that one sounds like bullshit to me.


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Postby Katganistan » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:18 pm

Even when hetero women masturbate it involves objectification of women?
Even when gay men masturbate, it involves objectification of women?

I think you need to rethink your premise.

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Postby Novraslavia » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:20 pm

I thought we were going to talk about marriage...

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Postby Norstal » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:22 pm

So you're saying I should masturbate to animals in order to not hate women.

But then, animals are sentient beings too. Just how far will you go FST? Is it immoral to masturbate to gasses and non-biological solids too?
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Postby Nadkor » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:22 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:Yes, this is about masturbation. Does anybody agree with me that masturbation is a sexist activity that involves the objectification of women?


Funnily enough, no.

edit: the fact that you consider males to be the only sex in the species capable of feeling sexual desire says an awful lot about your own massive, massive, issues with accepting that women are equally as human as males and operate in substantially the same way.
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:22 pm

Can't girls you know do that. Also gays. That kinda brings down the while argument there.
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:22 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Women also masturbate.


Nowhere near as much as men. Also this is another "But what about the menz!!!1!" excuse.
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Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Yootwopia » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:23 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:1. Masturbation involves thoughts 99% of the time. These thoughts are sexual. If a heterosexual male masturbates, does this not involve him objectifying women within his mind? How do we know that this won't lead to worse consequences later on? If he can masturbate and therefore objectify fantasy women, how long is it before he objectifies real women? How long is it until he rationalizes and excuses date rape? Where does it stop?

2. Do humans "need" sexual "release" in any meaningful way? I don't know, that one sounds like bullshit to me.

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Postby Desperate Measures » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:23 pm

Not everything is based on visuals. I've masturbated before and it was just based on the physical sensation without any thought or visual aid regarding a woman or a man or even that one time with the moose.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:23 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:Yes, this is about masturbation. Does anybody agree with me that masturbation is a sexist activity that involves the objectification of women? Does anybody else find the excuse that men "need" sex in the same way we need food to be laughably pathetic?

1. Masturbation involves thoughts 99% of the time. These thoughts are sexual. If a heterosexual male masturbates, does this not involve him objectifying women within his mind? How do we know that this won't lead to worse consequences later on? If he can masturbate and therefore objectify fantasy women, how long is it before he objectifies real women? How long is it until he rationalizes and excuses date rape? Where does it stop?

2. Do humans "need" sexual "release" in any meaningful way? I don't know, that one sounds like bullshit to me.

1: Males, whether or not they are heterosexual, are not the only ones that masturbate.
2: It's great stress relief.
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:23 pm

Norstal wrote:So you're saying I should masturbate to animals in order to not hate women.

But then, animals are sentient beings too. Just how far will you go FST? Is it immoral to masturbate to gasses and non-biological solids too?


Just don't masturbate period. If you've got an addiction to sex, the worst thing you can do is sate that addiction.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Azrael » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:24 pm

You reminded me of this post on funnyjunk.
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Postby Yootwopia » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:24 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:Not everything is based on visuals. I've masturbated before and it was just based on the physical sensation without any thought or visual aid regarding a woman or a man or even that one time with the moose.

Total sensual deprivation wank, eh?

Hmm...
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Postby Nadkor » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:24 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Women also masturbate.


Nowhere near as much as men. Also this is another "But what about the menz!!!1!" excuse.


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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:24 pm

So almost every response is just "But women do it to!!11!!one!"? Really?
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:25 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:So almost every response is just "But women do it to!!11!!one!"? Really?

And gay men.

And how do you counter this?
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Postby Nadkor » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:25 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:So almost every response is just "But women do it to!!11!!one!"? Really?


Well it kind of (almost entirely) undermines the premise established in your first line.
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Postby Gladia » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:25 pm

I am personally tired of women objectifying me when they masturbate with my fellow man in mind.

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Postby Yootwopia » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:25 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:Just don't masturbate period. If you've got an addiction to sex, the worst thing you can do is sate that addiction.

But it's like fuck methadone... not as good as the real thing, but it'll do so long as the NHS provides some kind of encouragement.
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Postby Cameroi » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:25 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:Yes, this is about masturbation. Does anybody agree with me that masturbation is a sexist activity that involves the objectification of women? Does anybody else find the excuse that men "need" sex in the same way we need food to be laughably pathetic?

1. Masturbation involves thoughts 99% of the time. These thoughts are sexual. If a heterosexual male masturbates, does this not involve him objectifying women within his mind? How do we know that this won't lead to worse consequences later on? If he can masturbate and therefore objectify fantasy women, how long is it before he objectifies real women? How long is it until he rationalizes and excuses date rape? Where does it stop?

2. Do humans "need" sexual "release" in any meaningful way? I don't know, that one sounds like bullshit to me.


how does this apply to other genders and orientations? it certainly isn't just hetero male humans who have real need and actual engage in doing so. to assume that it is, now THAT would be "sexist".

and i mention "humans" there, because it isn't just humans who do so. quite a number of other mammalian species also engage in this activity. so there's certainly nothing "unnatural" about it either.
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Postby Bulgislavia » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:25 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:Yes, this is about masturbation. Does anybody agree with me that masturbation is a sexist activity that involves the objectification of women? Does anybody else find the excuse that men "need" sex in the same way we need food to be laughably pathetic?

1. Masturbation involves thoughts 99% of the time. These thoughts are sexual. If a heterosexual male masturbates, does this not involve him objectifying women within his mind? How do we know that this won't lead to worse consequences later on? If he can masturbate and therefore objectify fantasy women, how long is it before he objectifies real women? How long is it until he rationalizes and excuses date rape? Where does it stop?

2. Do humans "need" sexual "release" in any meaningful way? I don't know, that one sounds like bullshit to me.


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I believe in moderation. maybe excessive masturbation is bad for your health, I know it can make people temporarily sterile and if someone becomes to reliant on masturbation then maybe it could possably lead to people not developing the proper skills to actually go out and meet the right people so they dont need to masturbate???

The other option is someone regimenting themselves and supressing their urges, living a chase life like a nun. I guess there is nothing wrong with that except that when that person does find someone who they would like to be more intimate with it might be embarrassing or humiliating especially if the other person has done stuff of a sexual nature before.

Sex exists, sexual energy exists. to Deny it and be blind to it and to neglect your sexuality I think would be unhealthy.

When sexual thoughts come into my mind I don't beat myself up and think im a disgusting pig, these thoughts are prefectly natural, plus supressing these urges and thoughts to such an unhealthjy extent could lead to them manifesting themselves in a much more disturbing way like pedophilia or rape

(I realize you believe excessive masturbation could lead a person to rape but I also think its possable supression of sexual feelings could lead to an unhealthy and even harmful manifestation down another more negative path...)

Basically my view is that there is absolutly nothing wrong with masturbation
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Postby Unilisia » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:26 pm

I'm female and I masturbate daily. Not sure how masturbation objectifies either sex.
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