Ridiculous School Rules

[Nadkor]

Dear lord.

Time to start the sacrifices to Cthulu.

Just for knowing who Cthulu is, I friend you good sir(person thing), and what about

CTHULU FHTAGN!!

Anyway, back on subject

This is the internet. Everybody knows who Cthulu is.

[Kirrig]

Not even that.

You were supposed to run away like a coward, or just take it if you were pinned down.
Not to mention if you were just there and didn't do anything, you got in trouble.

In my school, if you KNOW of a fight, or if you hear rumors, and a teacher finds out you knew, you are to be treated as though you fought.
Those who fight in my school, defender or attacker are maced by the standing police officer, he tells us it's "Standard procedure" to calm both parties down, and in other cases, he is to taze them.

Wouldn't work here. Half the fight is spent with two large bodies of students following on eof the participants until the fight begins.

[Lesbia]

Mine has a number of rules similar to this, but none are strictly enforced, so I don't really care.

- No PDA (not enforced)
- No cell phones in class (greatly depends on the teacher; my photography and chemistry teachers won't let me, but my history teacher doesn't care about anything at all)
- No leaving the campus (people manage to get away with going to lunch)
- No walking in the halls during class time without a pass (some teachers don't care)

In fact, as early as last year, we could only use phones in the cafeteria and in designated areas of the school, but everybody used them in the halls and nobody ever cared to enforce it. Due to the students' refusal to stop using them in the halls and the staff's not-caring attitude, we are now "officially" allowed.

[Saint Jade IV]

So basically you just want the ability to leave whenever?

I want the ability to walk across the hallway to get a drink without signing a pass.

Then talk to the students who use the "I'm going to the bathroom/get a drink/get something out of my bag" excuse to get out of the classroom, and then not come back.

Schools have a duty of care to their students. They act as something called "in loco parentis". They have a responsibility to know where you are at all times.

Say you leave the classroom, and noone does anything. You walk across the street and get hit by a bus. Guess who is liable? The school. For not making sure you are where you are supposed to be.

I worked at a school which instituted a policy of requiring students to sign out of the classroom in their homework diaries and sign back in. Our truancy rate went from nearly 40% to about 15%.

It's really not the school's fault that they have to institute stupid rules. It's the legal system and the students' fault.


http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=8155856#p8155856
Funny story, a kid actually did this to me.

Year 10 student had already been to the bathroom twice one lesson. Asked to go again one minute before the bell. I told him to wait, he pissed in the corner of the room.

[New Sapienta]

Dear lord.

Time to start the sacrifices to Cthulu.

Just for knowing who Cthulu is, I friend you good sir(person thing), and what about

CTHULU FHTAGN!!

Anyway, back on subject

/high five

[Astrolinium]

Our constitutional rights aren't nonexistant. They're abridged.

I'm simply stating what is in the law text books. It was about a student-ran radio station, and once the principal heard of them critisizing the school's polices FROM AN OUTSIDE STATION, he immediately suspended them.
And in the book, we're told it was the right decision because as students,t hey have no rights, and the principal felt what he did as right.

Tinker vs. Des Moines would beg to disagree.

[Cill Charthaigh]

My school and the district are run by geniuses. They cut lunch funding, which means no more decent meat or cans of Snapple which I and many others adore. They bought a huge flat screen in the front office that acts as a security feed for the front door, which they can see clearly see through the window. No working security cameras in the rest of the school? Wat

[Kirrig]

This reminds me of my secondary school. The whole time I was there, they had a policy of making you ask for permission to go to the toilet, and often teachers would just refuse and make you sit there til the lesson ended. Which sucked, but we got on with it. However, in my last year there, they decided that too many students were skipping classes by hiding in the bathrooms (which I doubt, a lot. The stench in there was unimaginable), so they started locking the toilets all day, and only opening them up in the lunch breaks. But often, the person sent to unlock them would be 10, 15 minutes late (and we only had half an hour for our lunch break). One time, the person didn't show up at all. By the time it got to the end of our lunchbreak, there was a huge line of students outside the toilets, desperate to go, and someone kicked the door down, and was excluded for a week for doing so. A few weeks later, when he was back in school, the same thing happened. They never turned up with the keys. So instead of kicking the door down again and being excluded, he walked up to the door and did his business right there. He got excluded again, but his parents complained so much they ended up ending his exclusion early and they stopped locking the toilets all day.

Anyways, moral of the story is, if they don't let you go to the toilets to take a leak, you do it right there in front of them.

Extreme they just put cameras in ours. The ones that work, that is.

[Ifreann]

Anyways, moral of the story is, if they don't let you go to the toilets to take a leak, you do it right there in front of them.

Sounds like a great way to get charged with sexual assault.

[Lizardiar]

I am a senior, and I am taking law classes in the school, We were covering extensively where the boold says, several times "Students or those under eighteen without a GED have No Constitutional Rights." They are allowed to randomly drug test students in a high school, but they aren't allowed to test the teachers because THAT would be a violation to their right to privacy.

That is an out and out lie. The Supreme Court has ruled that you do NOT leave your rights at the school house door.

Perhaps you should do some investigation and research on your own. Google it.

http://employeedrugtesting.wordpress.com/teachers-union-anti-drug-testing/
http://www.kitv.com/r/16935822/detail.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1879197,00.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2009-01-18-randomteachertests_N.htm

[Nadkor]

And in the book, we're told it was the right decision because as students,t hey have no rights, and the principal felt what he did as right.

Go read Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District, 393 U.S. 503

[Wazkyraque]

It's not really a rule but I'm considered tardy every time the city bus is late. I find that stupid.

[Astrolinium]

That is an out and out lie. The Supreme Court has ruled that you do NOT leave your rights at the school house door.

Perhaps you should do some investigation and research on your own. Google it.

http://employeedrugtesting.wordpress.com/teachers-union-anti-drug-testing/
http://www.kitv.com/r/16935822/detail.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1879197,00.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2009-01-18-randomteachertests_N.htm

Nowhere in there do I see "no constitutional rights". I see the rights being abbreviated, but not being totally revoked.

[Marshmellowstan]

Suspenders and flanel shirts are "gangster".

[Desperate Measures]

Anyways, moral of the story is, if they don't let you go to the toilets to take a leak, you do it right there in front of them.

Sounds like a great way to get charged with sexual assault.

Pants on!

[Reine Zukunft]

Well, man, my advice to you, is to get other students organized. If your school is anything like mine, then they will take a complaint/suggestion as a direct attack on their prestige. But if you get student consent, and even teacher consent, they might have a reason to listen to you. I'm having the same issues at my school on dress code, seeing as we have to wear uniforms.

[Lizardiar]

And in the book, we're told it was the right decision because as students,t hey have no rights, and the principal felt what he did as right.

Go read Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District, 393 U.S. 503

I will go read it up, I was simply saying what our text books had in them.

[Cill Charthaigh]

What kinda school do you go to and why haven't you left and sued.

Also to be on topic, my school doesn't have many dumb rules but there are some annoying nuances. But then again we have a de facto open campus and all. (It's not legal but it's easy enough to do it w/o being caught).

I go to a new tech, the principal snapped and made his own rules on top of stupid district ones (In a fire TAKS Tests, now STARS, are more importent then the lives of the students, the teacher has to have them in order to leave the classroom, even during a fire) and if I sue I don't get the free MacBook when I graduate, and it'll cost more in lawyers than I'm ever likely to earn here, all the parents supports uniforms, the district & school rules. BLAH BLAH BLAH

The teachers don't even know what might be on the STAAR test. what.

But I fear I detect...sarcasm?

[New Sapienta]

My school and the district are run by geniuses. They cut lunch funding, which means no more decent meat or cans of Snapple which I and many others adore. They bought a huge flat screen in the front office that acts as a security feed for the front door, which they can see clearly see through the window. No working security cameras in the rest of the school? Wat

My school spent tens of thousands(yep, that much)of dollars on fucking heart rate moniters to make us work in gym(increasing laziness in the staff), but yet make cuts in more important things like art and extracurricular activity.

And gym is mandatory.

[Monganda]

It's all just regulation and being as utterly and annoyingly neutral as possible. At my high school if someone got beaten but didn't fight back, the victim still got punished along with the culprit.

[Taeunas]

This is nothing new. This kind of rule has been in place in many schools for decades. Most teachers find a way around it that is easy and yet within the rules. Most (read: all reasonable teachers) have some sort of silly object that they would give the a student who needed to go somewhere during class. One of the history teachers at my HS (he was also the varsity football coach) had what was affectionately reffered to as "the Kill Stick" a four foot piece of oak dowel, about an inch and a half in diameter. One biology teacher had a propeller benie that the student had to wear. They worked. No one ever got in trouble.

[Durmatagno]

Just for knowing who Cthulu is, I friend you good sir(person thing), and what about

CTHULU FHTAGN!!

Anyway, back on subject

/high five

*returns the favor*

No, only the true internet NS geeks and debaters really know the secrets behind Cthulu and the way to be around him without going crazy, now trying to figure out it's mind is another thing. I tried it, don't you go there

Anyway, A school deemed in our area they can suspend and expel students for what they post about the school on facebook and twitter OUT OF SCHOOL. Luckily my radio station hasen't been shut down yet.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

My school, no agenda 3 times, talk to principal and phone call, some teachers at my school use the hall pass, some don't.

[New Sapienta]

I remember in my middle school they forced us to wear ID collars around the neck.
COLLARS. AROUND THE NECK AT ALL TIMES.

[Saint Jade IV]

Anyways, moral of the story is, if they don't let you go to the toilets to take a leak, you do it right there in front of them.

Sounds like a great way to get charged with sexual assault.

It was the one time I utilised the Adopt-a-Cop's services. Kid didn't get arrested, but he was very grateful that I "didn't press charges".