Israel upholds citizenship bar for Palestinian spouses

[Conserative Morality]

wait i forgot what age you are again please refresh my memory ):

What's the relevance?

[Ourfgenstan (Ancient)]

well, the whole being a community together and all is cool with me but where it starts getting into heritage and etc that's where i disagree.

Eh..Judaism is a tribe. A huge amount of Jews believe that you aren't a 'true' Jew if your mother or grandmother aren't Jewish. That's a religious thing, yes, but has a great deal to do with heritage.

I see your point of view, but Judaism IS a heritage.

Indeed, to be a true jew according to Judaism your mother is a Jew, but it can also count if your mothers mother is a Jew, anything beyond that is considered meaningless.

Unless you convert, but considering anyone can go to heaven according to Judaism, it's considered pointless to convert if you're a *Gentile*.

Anyway, I will show the links I provided earlier again for anyone who doesn't belive me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephardi_Jews

[Trotskylvania]

lol

then why don't you explain it to all of us, since you seem to not have that problem.

Israel is current in the safest situation it's been in in years. Few states have any serious designs on Israel, and Mossad knows it. All of it's neighbors are either too weak to challenge Israel or have been drawn into a neutral position by Israeli bargaining and military strength. What Israel is doing now is not from a position of fear or weakness, but from strength - and that's what makes it all the more deplorable.

Point-in-fact: the military and the intelligence community overwhelmingly support the dovish Israeli Labor Party, and have traditionally opposed the antagonistic policies of the post-80s Israeli right.

[Alyakia]

you see conservative morality, we all know you're an asshole. but that's kind of a bad thing. not something you should take pride. please stop being a bad a person.

Nah, CM isn't an asshole. A fair number of NSGers around the same post-count as him are, but if CM IS an asshole, he's definately one of the smaller ones

a huge asshole or a tiny asshole

it doesn't matter

it's still a dispenser of useless shit

sage advice

[Ourfgenstan (Ancient)]

Ironic, there is a 5p a minute Israel phonecall add on the left side.

[Alyakia]

wait i forgot what age you are again please refresh my memory ):

What's the relevance?

i used to be super proud of of being an asshole and telling the blunt truth when i was 15 too so i always gotta check

[Vitius]

Ironic, there is a 5p a minute Israel phonecall add on the left side.

Cookies, my friend.

Why are there ads for colleges to go to I recently searched for on Google?

Eh, must be a coincidence.

[Conserative Morality]

i used to be super proud of of being an asshole and telling the blunt truth when i was 15 too so i always gotta check

Nah, this is nothing about telling the 'blunt truth'. This is about me enjoying arguing and feeling that it's fun to correct people who are horrendously wrong.

[The warewolf order]

Israel's Supreme Court has upheld a law banning Palestinians who marry Israelis from gaining Israeli citizenship.

Civil rights groups had petitioned the court to overturn the law, saying it was unconstitutional.

"Human rights do not prescribe national suicide," Judge Asher Grunis wrote in the judgement.

The law was introduced in 2003, with its backers citing security concerns and the need to ensure Israel remains a Jewish-majority state.

Human rights activists and Arab politicians condemned the court's decision.

The court "had failed the test of justice", said Arab-Israeli MP Jamal Zahalka of the Balad party.

"It is a dark day for the protection of human rights and for the Israeli High Court," lawyers from the Association for Civil Rights in Israel told AFP.

"The ruling proves how much the situation regarding the civil rights of the Arab minority in Israel is declining into a highly dangerous and unprecedented situation", Arab-Israeli civil rights group Adalah, one of those that brought the petition, said in a statement.

The Citizenship and Entry Law was passed in 2003, during the second Palestinian intifada (uprising), as waves of suicide bombings targeted Israel.

Many were launched from the West Bank, some with the help of Israeli Arabs.

Initially, the law was emergency legislation which has since been extended periodically.

It was amended in 2005, allowing women over 25 and men over 35 to apply for temporary permits to live in Israel, but still ruling out citizenship for all but a handful of cases.

In 2007, it was expanded to apply to citizens of Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16526469

This just frustrates me really, marriage conveying citizenship (in my very limited knowledge) is quite common generally, and I also have a generally dislike social engineering to try and keep a state a particular ethnicity.[/ This makes me just sick to stomeck

[Fnordgasm 5]

I can't decide whether or not I like you or hate you. Do you mind letting me sleep on it while I decide?

only if your promise i will appear in your dreams (it needs to be a trippy dream)

My dreams generally involve sitting in a coffee shop and chatting casually with Freddie Krueger.. He's fine btw. He's opened a small boutique with his wife and has two lovely but horribly disfigured kids. I haven't seen his films in years but he still haunts my dreams..

[Vitius]

Eh..Judaism is a tribe. A huge amount of Jews believe that you aren't a 'true' Jew if your mother or grandmother aren't Jewish. That's a religious thing, yes, but has a great deal to do with heritage.

I see your point of view, but Judaism IS a heritage.

Indeed, to be a true jew according to Judaism your mother is a Jew, but it can also count if your mothers mother is a Jew, anything beyond that is considered meaningless.

Unless you convert, but considering anyone can go to heaven according to Judaism, it's considered pointless to convert if you're a *Gentile*.

Anyway, I will show the links I provided earlier again for anyone who doesn't belive me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephardi_Jews

It's not pointless to convert if you're a gentile.

If all you're worried about is Heaven and you believe in the Jewish form of heaven, you may want to convert. If you're not consider righteous by G-d, you'll probably be sent to Gehenna.

^ Just beliefs, not condemning or praising anyone here xD

[Yootwopia]

What an excellent country I am glad our nation supports.

[Pax Flora]

If i was an arab id be more scared of my people killing me cause that's why they do.(for clarification sake not all of them, otherwise ill get gang banged by the usual suspects here)

Because no other group of extremists kills people. And Arabs (not all of them!) are automatically extremist.

*sigh* There are bad people of every kind: black, white, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, man, woman (heck, maybe some transgendered or intersex too).... But to make a generalization like this is insensitive and wrong. And yes, it's a generalization, because even though you included a *cough*fail*cough* disclaimer, you made an assumption that Arabs by nature are violent or killers. And I'm pretty sure not all Arabs are jihadist terrorists and the like.

I'm not pro-Palestine, but someone needs to beat the sense into Israel, who seems to feel that it can bully others just because America backs it.

[North Calaveras]

If i was an arab id be more scared of my people killing me cause that's why they do.(for clarification sake not all of them, otherwise ill get gang banged by the usual suspects here)

Because no other group of extremists kills people. And Arabs (not all of them!) are automatically extremist.

*sigh* There are bad people of every kind: black, white, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, man, woman (heck, maybe some transgendered or intersex too).... But to make a generalization like this is insensitive and wrong. And yes, it's a generalization, because even though you included a *cough*fail*cough* disclaimer, you made an assumption that Arabs by nature are violent or killers. And I'm pretty sure not all Arabs are jihadist terrorists and the like.

I'm not pro-Palestine, but someone needs to beat the sense into Israel, who seems to feel that it can bully others just because America backs it.

I never said anything about all Arabs being jihadists, i never said that no other groups kill people and i don't automatically assume all Arabs are extremist.

please quote me where i do these things.

[Chinese Regions]

Preach it brother, preach the truth.

Israel, founded on peace and democracy.

Trololol?
No it was founded on the idea that the Jewish people need a homeland since they were spread all over the world from diaspora though many were created or proposed such as the Jewish Autnomous Oblast in Russia, Zionism led the idea that the homeland should be the promise land, Israel, Canaan, Palestine, in the holy land, where the Jews originated. It was founded on nationalism
It is a quasi-democracy, and it is certainly not peaceful.

[Chinese Regions]

Ironic, there is a 5p a minute Israel phonecall add on the left side.

The ads seek out what is on the page, I always get ads of dating Chinese women because of my nation name.

[Gauthier]

At this point Israel could establish "special camps" for Palestinians and/or Arabs and NC would still act like every Jew in existence was being driven out to sea.

[North Calaveras]

At this point Israel could establish "special camps" for Palestinians and/or Arabs and NC would still act like every Jew in existence was being driven out to sea.

depends on how the camps were operated also depends on the reasons.

[Chevrolet Corvette]

Thank god palestine to Israel is like Mexicans are to the US

And US should do the same thing to cut down on Illegal Immigrants PERFECT SOLUTION

[Chinese Regions]

Thank god palestine to Israel is like Mexicans are to the US

And US should do the same thing to cut down on Illegal Immigrants PERFECT SOLUTION

Sarcasm?

[Chevrolet Corvette]

Thank god palestine to Israel is like Mexicans are to the US

And US should do the same thing to cut down on Illegal Immigrants PERFECT SOLUTION

Sarcasm?

No i do believe that would fix the Illegal immigrants in the US from escaping the law

[Cromarty]

At this point Israel could establish "special camps" for Palestinians and/or Arabs and NC would still act like every Jew in existence was being driven out to sea.

depends on how the camps were operated also depends on the reasons.

Considering Israel's past record on camp administration, like this

[Chinese Regions]

Sarcasm?

No i do believe that would fix the Illegal immigrants in the US from escaping the law

Okay...
But I don't think are doing this because of immigration it is about fighting discrimination, and a Palestinian state, it is not comparable to the situation of Mexico and USA, Mexican come to the USA because the living standard is better. Palestinians just don't want to be discriminated against i.e not be able to marry an Israeli.

[Ourfgenstan (Ancient)]

Preach it brother, preach the truth.

Israel, founded on peace and democracy.

Trololol?
No it was founded on the idea that the Jewish people need a homeland since they were spread all over the world from diaspora though many were created or proposed such as the Jewish Autnomous Oblast in Russia, Zionism led the idea that the homeland should be the promise land, Israel, Canaan, Palestine, in the holy land, where the Jews originated. It was founded on nationalism
It is a quasi-democracy, and it is certainly not peaceful.

It was sarcasm you fool, go read through my posts, I've been attacking Israel this whole thread.

[North Calaveras]

depends on how the camps were operated also depends on the reasons.

Considering Israel's past record on camp administration, like this

that's a massacre of a refugee camps, i hardly believe the camps were designed to be used as a slaughter house, seems to me it was the target of an attack.