US Marines and mistreatment of Taliban dead

[Oterro]

The fastest way to a stable and secure government is to shoot as many people as possible then piss on their bodies.

[Machtergreifung]

Absolutely. If they experianced first hand the damage that their tatics cause to innocenet people, perhaps the rural population would change its mind on sending its young ones off on a one way trip to Allah...

Yep.. cos that worked in Vietnam

and Northern Ireland

and the Basque Coutnry

and in almost every other fucking insurgency in the fucking history of mankind.

Selous Scouts much? What about Malaya?

[Machtergreifung]

I always assumed the goal of the Allied mission was to restore a proper government and beat the Taliban. As it is, they are failing.

Which is clearly why the Taliban are fucking negotiating with the allies.

Yep, NATO are losing the war so the Taliban are negotiating.

The Taliban in talks is a win for them. What were you expecting? Huge parades through Kabul?

For them, making world powers sit down and agree with them is a far bigger status symbol than anything gone before.

[Strykla]

With the Rule of Engagement and stuff, there is a very fine balance that must carefully maintained. Too loose, and you can have shootings like My Lai Massacre; too strict, and Operation Red Wings repeats will shatter morale and lose you the war in a snap. Yeah, we take the moral high ground by having rules of warfare, even some that are half-assed(Case in point, hollow-point bullets). But there is a point where you really do need to give in to reality and become a combat pragmatist. If the Taliban pissed off the Chinese, with their lack of care about the enemy, we'd be saying 'What Taliban? Weren't they nuked, like, a decade ago?'

[Oterro]

Yep.. cos that worked in Vietnam

and Northern Ireland

and the Basque Coutnry

and in almost every other fucking insurgency in the fucking history of mankind.

Selous Scouts much? What about Malaya?

You mean the guys who absorbed captured combatants to bolster their skill and prowess?

lol what

[Keronians]

Morality?

Taking the moral high ground the whole operation relies on?

I always assumed the goal of the Allied mission was to restore a proper government and beat the Taliban. As it is, they are failing.

So you would support the USA becoming an openly terroristic nation?

I would support the USA taking a harder line on insurgents supported by terrorists. Treating them like proper combatants is getting nobody anywhere.

We're the good guys. Or we're supposed to be. Suppose you enlist. You might get a tour in Afghanistan if you hurry. Then come on back and tell us all about using 14th century tactics.

And I am sure your Afgan alter ego would say the exact same thing about Taliban soldiers. Good is meerly the product of opinion.

I said "relies on".

If you behave the same way, what's stopping the Afghans from saying:

"Woah, hold on. You say he's evil because A, B and C, but you're doing C, B and A... What makes you any different?"

[Machtergreifung]

Selous Scouts much? What about Malaya?

You mean the guys who absorbed captured combatants to bolster their skill and prowess?

lol what

Who better to beat the Taliban than the Taliban themselves? If you infiltrate the close-knit tribal system of the Taliban and cause cracks in it, the entire organization breaks appart utterly through a lack of trust.

[Keronians]

With the Rule of Engagement and stuff, there is a very fine balance that must carefully maintained. Too loose, and you can have shootings like My Lai Massacre; too strict, and Operation Red Wings repeats will shatter morale and lose you the war in a snap. Yeah, we take the moral high ground by having rules of warfare, even some that are half-assed(Case in point, hollow-point bullets). But there is a point where you really do need to give in to reality and become a combat pragmatist. If the Taliban pissed off the Chinese, with their lack of care about the enemy, we'd be like 'What Taliban? Weren't they nuked, like, a decade ago?'

Am I the only one who giggled when I read "pissed off"?

[Ifreann]

Why shouldn't we condemn them? Should we validate their tactics by using them? "Oh, no, go ahead, fly another plane into our buildings. Do more car bombs. Go ahead - we'll do the same thing. They're perfectly valid tactics, see, we do it too!"

Absolutely. If they experianced first hand the damage that their tatics cause to innocenet people, perhaps the rural population would change its mind on sending its young ones off on a one way trip to Allah...

Maybe if you fly some planes into their buildings. Don't worry about volunteers, I'm sure their sacrifice will be rewarded in Heaven.

[Machtergreifung]

Absolutely. If they experianced first hand the damage that their tatics cause to innocenet people, perhaps the rural population would change its mind on sending its young ones off on a one way trip to Allah...

Maybe if you fly some planes into their buildings. Don't worry about volunteers, I'm sure their sacrifice will be rewarded in Heaven.

Just use drones. Such is the power of the nationstate.

[Dominion of Integrated States]

In my humble oppinion and that of people I know who have fought in Afghanistan is that the Taliban are not terrorists but soldiers defending there home we should treat them with respect and dignity even though they are our enemies. They are human beings fighting for what they belave is right for there country and should be respected for the fact that they have laid down there lives.

PS Not trolling and have lost people in Afghan just think that all soldiers should be treated with respect.

[Chazicaria]

I'd like to see some of the people in this thread go to Afghanistan, fight these savages, watch their brothers in arms kill your best friends, then come here and criticize these men. Sometimes war just pushes you too far and you end up doing shit like this, and these men shouldn't be blamed for having done this. Why don't you guys go out and get shot at by people who like nothing more than to behead you and slaughter your whole family? Why don't you go watch your friends get shot by these "men," huh? The pressures put on people during war are sometimes just too much, and they block out your sense of decency; this does not make you a war criminal that deserves dishonorable discharge. /rant

[Strykla]

In my humble oppinion and that of people I know who have fought in Afghanistan is that the Taliban are not terrorists but soldiers defending there home we should treat them with respect and dignity even though they are our enemies. They are human beings fighting for what they belave is right for there country and should be respected for the fact that they have laid down there lives.

PS Not trolling and have lost people in Afghan just think that all soldiers should be treated with respect.

Insurgents aren't soldiers.

[Zijeme]

Absolutely. If they experianced first hand [...] perhaps the rural population would change its mind on sending its young ones off on a one way trip to Allah...

Ah, so you are advocating terrorist attacks on villages. Should the US do some more of its historical massacres as well?

the damage that their tatics cause to innocenet people

It is reciprocal.

[Cromarty]

You mean the guys who absorbed captured combatants to bolster their skill and prowess?

lol what

Who better to beat the Taliban than the Taliban themselves? If you infiltrate the close-knit tribal system of the Taliban and cause cracks in it, the entire organization breaks appart utterly through a lack of trust.

Who do you the fucking the Afghan Army are?

Oh yeah, elements of the now disbanded fucking muhjahadeen

[Serrland]

I'd like to see some of the people in this thread go to Afghanistan, fight these savages, watch their brothers in arms kill your best friends, then come here and criticize these men. Sometimes war just pushes you too far and you end up doing shit like this, and these men shouldn't be blamed for having done this. Why don't you guys go out and get shot at by people who like nothing more than to behead you and slaughter your whole family? Why don't you go watch your friends get shot by these "men," huh? The pressures put on people during war are sometimes just too much, and they block out your sense of decency; this does not make you a war criminal that deserves dishonorable discharge. /rant

Committing war crimes does not a war criminal make?

[Chazicaria]

I'd like to see some of the people in this thread go to Afghanistan, fight these savages, watch their brothers in arms kill your best friends, then come here and criticize these men. Sometimes war just pushes you too far and you end up doing shit like this, and these men shouldn't be blamed for having done this. Why don't you guys go out and get shot at by people who like nothing more than to behead you and slaughter your whole family? Why don't you go watch your friends get shot by these "men," huh? The pressures put on people during war are sometimes just too much, and they block out your sense of decency; this does not make you a war criminal that deserves dishonorable discharge. /rant

Committing war crimes does not a war criminal make?

Since when was pissing on the corpse of a savage who would, if given the chance, murder thousands a war crime?

[Alyakia]

Committing war crimes does not a war criminal make?

Since when was pissing on the corpse of a savage who would, if given the chance, murder thousands a war crime?

nsg.txt

[Strykla]

I'd like to see some of the people in this thread go to Afghanistan, fight these savages, watch their brothers in arms kill your best friends, then come here and criticize these men. Sometimes war just pushes you too far and you end up doing shit like this, and these men shouldn't be blamed for having done this. Why don't you guys go out and get shot at by people who like nothing more than to behead you and slaughter your whole family? Why don't you go watch your friends get shot by these "men," huh? The pressures put on people during war are sometimes just too much, and they block out your sense of decency; this does not make you a war criminal that deserves dishonorable discharge. /rant

Committing war crimes does not a war criminal make?

Then 90% of the anti-heroes in media are war criminals. lol

[TFF]

I always assumed the goal of the Allied mission was to restore a proper government and beat the Taliban. As it is, they are failing.



I would support the USA taking a harder line on insurgents supported by terrorists. Treating them like proper combatants is getting nobody anywhere.



And I am sure your Afgan alter ego would say the exact same thing about Taliban soldiers. Good is meerly the product of opinion.

I said "relies on".

If you behave the same way, what's stopping the Afghans from saying:

"Woah, hold on. You say he's evil because A, B and C, but you're doing C, B and A... What makes you any different?"

Because we're not doing A, B and C to our own people like they are doing to you and we're not doing C, B and A...we just have little P now and then.

[Oterro]

Committing war crimes does not a war criminal make?

Since when was pissing on the corpse of a savage who would, if given the chance, murder thousands a war crime?

fucking lol.

I'd sig this but then nutters would think I actually thought that statement had any merit of worth, intellectually or aesthetically.

[Alyakia]

Committing war crimes does not a war criminal make?

Then 90% of the anti-heroes in media are war criminals. lol

Yes.

Yes they are.

Kinda helps make them anti-heros. (yes i know what an anti-hero actually is.)

[Zijeme]

Since when was pissing on the corpse of a savage who would, if given the chance, murder thousands a war crime?

Oh, the bluster! The bravado!

[Chevrolet Corvette]

Bravo i support them for doing this

Fuck the Taliban they deserve it i mean THEY CAN Torture / Cut NATO and US soliders but we can't even do that?

I call BULLSHIT and ALL AMERICAN AND NATO TROOPS SHOULD DO THIS TO EVERY "DEAD" Taliban


"DEAD" - Edited

[Chazicaria]

Since when was pissing on the corpse of a savage who would, if given the chance, murder thousands a war crime?

fucking lol.

I'd sig this but then nutters would think I actually thought that statement had any merit of worth, intellectually or aesthetically.

Notice that you didn't even respond, you simply called it unintelligent.