US Marines and mistreatment of Taliban dead

[Dyakovo]

I am actually, joining the army next year or the year after that, so be ready for alot more "Pissing on dead prick" threads. Prehapes a few spitting, burning, and shit on aswell.

It's people spouting off like this who make me ashamed as fuck to be from this country.

Yup... Rather a shame that I don't know his actual name and where he is going to bootcamp... It would be rather fun to send that little bit of idiocy to his Drill Sargeant...

[New Sheoth VI]

I am actually, joining the army next year or the year after that, so be ready for alot more "Pissing on dead prick" threads. Prehapes a few spitting, burning, and shit on aswell.

I gleefully await you departure to Fort Leavenworth.

Your a soldier? See ya there.

[Willynillya]

So, you're saying that these men are the only US Military personnel in the middle east who violate the SOP? I'm sure that a Marine or Soldier in the field knows more about combat than a pencil pusher behind a desk.

I doubt it, but they were stupid enough to allow themselves to be filmed whilst doing it. And most of the SOPs in the USMC are created by line soldiers.

It makes no different if they go all at the same time, or one at a time.

Thanks for proving you haven't a fucking clue as to what you're talking about.

You should report yourself. Just sayin.

[Urceo-Carthage]

It's people spouting off like this who make me ashamed as fuck to be from this country.

Yup... Rather a shame that I don't know his actual name and where he is going to bootcamp... It would be rather fun to send that little bit of idiocy to his Drill Sargeant...

Ever hear of the little thing called the first amendment that allows us to say anything we possibly want?

[Dyakovo]

I doubt it, but they were stupid enough to allow themselves to be filmed whilst doing it. And most of the SOPs in the USMC are created by line soldiers.

Thanks for proving you haven't a fucking clue as to what you're talking about.

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Yup. Still demonstrating your ignorance. Sorry, but real life in the military is nothing like CoD.

[Cromwellia]

Yup... Rather a shame that I don't know his actual name and where he is going to bootcamp... It would be rather fun to send that little bit of idiocy to his Drill Sargeant...

Ever hear of the little thing called the first amendment that allows us to say anything we possibly want?

You need to brush up on your understanding of that. You're not allowed to say anything you want without consequence in this setting.

[Genivaria]

Yup... Rather a shame that I don't know his actual name and where he is going to bootcamp... It would be rather fun to send that little bit of idiocy to his Drill Sargeant...

Ever hear of the little thing called the first amendment that allows us to say anything we possibly want?

The first amendment protects you from being silenced or censored. Not from being criticized.

[Fartsniffage]

Yup... Rather a shame that I don't know his actual name and where he is going to bootcamp... It would be rather fun to send that little bit of idiocy to his Drill Sargeant...

Ever hear of the little thing called the first amendment that allows us to say anything we possibly want?

You think that applies to soldiers?

[Oterro]

I gleefully await you departure to Fort Leavenworth.

Your a soldier? See ya there.

Do they allow such inarticulate people in the armed forces?

Wouldn't they turned you aside if you couldn't fill in the form accurately?

I mean, it's not like grunts are cannon fodder any more, are they?

[Urceo-Carthage]

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Yup. Still demonstrating your ignorance. Sorry, but real life in the military is nothing like CoD.

Which is why I don't play CoD? Also, since you appear to think you're in the Military, when did you serve, what branch, what was your MOS and pay grade?

[Dyakovo]

Yup... Rather a shame that I don't know his actual name and where he is going to bootcamp... It would be rather fun to send that little bit of idiocy to his Drill Sargeant...

Ever hear of the little thing called the first amendment that allows us to say anything we possibly want?

The Bill of Rights does not apply to US serviceman like it does to civilians.

[Dyakovo]

I gleefully await you departure to Fort Leavenworth.

Your a soldier? See ya there.

I was a Marine.

[Genivaria]

Your a soldier? See ya there.

Do they allow such inarticulate people in the armed forces?

Wouldn't they turned you aside if you couldn't fill in the form accurately?

I mean, it's not like grunts are cannon fodder any more, are they?

No, they want intelligent people in the military now.

[Dyakovo]

I doubt it, but they were stupid enough to allow themselves to be filmed whilst doing it. And most of the SOPs in the USMC are created by line soldiers.

Thanks for proving you haven't a fucking clue as to what you're talking about.

You should report yourself. Just sayin.

If you think I said/did something worthy of moderator action feel free to report me.

[Urceo-Carthage]

Ever hear of the little thing called the first amendment that allows us to say anything we possibly want?

The Bill of Rights does not apply to US serviceman like it does to civilians.

I'm pretty sure that until you graduate boot camp, you're still a civilian recruit or poolee.

[Tekania]

Then again, you would also not encourage it in the first place.



I suppose one can, but I dunno...

The soldiers are certainly the ones who DID these things. They could have NOT done it, but they chose to.

Then again, when you see your enemy as inhuman and lower than low, and you have been taught this by your superiors, they often don't think their superiors are going to cover their asses (and that they're better at it) and then leave them in the wind.

Bullshit. When I was in everyone assumed that if something went wrong the upper echelons would push the blame as far down the chain of command as plausible deniability would allow.

I imagine they still do. In some cases deniability covered us on the bottom since we could launch things at targets we weren't privy to the information on. I launched some TLAM's into former Yugoslavia back in the 90's and never knew where they're actual destination was. We'd get a mision package number, upload the package to the missile, plot it an avoidance course to its land-fall waypoint, fire it and forget it. Nintendo warfare.

[Lackadaisical2]

1) That's not what I said. Theres literally hundreds maybe even thousands of US Military personnel that violate SOP out there.

So. Fucking. What?

2) Let's say theres a sniper. One guy is pissing; that sniper kills that one guy. If all 5 are pissing at the same time, that one guy still dies.

One guy is pissing, the one of the other four spot the sniper because they're not busy pissing and save the pissing guy's life.

Also, how do we know there weren't other Marines guarding the perimeter?

We don't, but if they violated SOP as Dya suggests they have there ought to be some punishment (even if its simply a reprimand)

Also, these are Marines, not soldiers.

Marines, now not soldiers.

I didn't say they're in the army, solider can imply such, but I used the term to say that they serve in the armed forces, which should be obvious enough.

[Malgrave]

The Marines should be dishonourably discharged and criminal prosecution should be sought. Although this thread has bought up a valid point, the high amount of incidents like this in the past involving American soldiers do create more anti-american sentiment abroad and the DOD should certainly review the situation. I think that selection, training and harsh punishments can make this problem more rare.

A Dishonorable Discharge is one of the potential results of (military) criminal prosecution.

My bad. Thanks for correcting me.

[Sidhae]

Well, it doesn't take much courage to piss on an enemy after he's dead. And frankly, it doesn't take much skill for a superpower to invade a small underdeveloped country either. It obviously tells something of American society that they need so feeble enemies to be victorious, especially considering it's been 10 years and they still haven't dealt with the Taliban.

But if their intent was to insult the enemy, personally I'd suggest smearing them with lard before burial instead as something much more demoralizing. A Muslim that has come in contact with pig and hasn't purified himself afterwards has no hope of entering afterlife, the only thing that fanatics like Taliban really fear. The Brits used this to their advantage in colonial wars of early 1900's.

[Boomfook]

That's what scares me about americans...They seem to think anyone without a US passport is somehow "less valuable" and unimportant. I wouldn't really mind if they'd just stay in america with their guns and their peanut-butter, but sadly they haven't. This bunch of "ubermensch" have gone all Mongolian on the rest of us. They are truly scary people.

Not at all. People with foreign passports have value commensurate with the amount of oil their country has. Oil, and rare earth minerals and things like that.



Where do you live that the United States has gone "all Mongolian" on you?

We all live in a world where one in every five countries of the world has been attacked by the USA.

[New Sheoth VI]

Do they allow such inarticulate people in the armed forces?

Wouldn't they turned you aside if you couldn't fill in the form accurately?

I mean, it's not like grunts are cannon fodder any more, are they?

No, they want intelligent people in the military now.

My GPA is like 3.20, im not a retard. My spelling and grammer are bad, but thats about it.

[Urceo-Carthage]

1) That's not what I said. Theres literally hundreds maybe even thousands of US Military personnel that violate SOP out there.

So. Fucking. What?

2) Let's say theres a sniper. One guy is pissing; that sniper kills that one guy. If all 5 are pissing at the same time, that one guy still dies.

One guy is pissing, the one of the other four spot the sniper because they're not busy pissing and save the pissing guy's life.

Also, how do we know there weren't other Marines guarding the perimeter?

We don't, but if they violated SOP as Dya suggests they have there ought to be some punishment (even if its simply a reprimand)

Also, these are Marines, not soldiers.

Marines, now not soldiers.

I didn't say they're in the army, solider can imply such, but I used the term to say that they serve in the armed forces, which should be obvious enough.

1)
2) Because it's easy to spot a sniper hiding, blending in with the backround
3) A Soldier is in the US Army, a Marine is in the Marine Corps, Sailor in the Navy, and so on and so forth.

[Dyakovo]

Yup. Still demonstrating your ignorance. Sorry, but real life in the military is nothing like CoD.

Which is why I don't play CoD? Also, since you appear to think you're in the Military, when did you serve, what branch, what was your MOS and pay grade?

Actually I don't think I'm in the military. I know that I was in the military. USMC MOS 0331/8152.

[Tekania]

I'd say that I'm surprised.

But then I'd be lying.

Discharge the fuckers.

There are all sorts of discharges... any one in particular?

I'd go for a Duck Dinner for them personally... though I suppose I could live with a Big Chicken Dinner for them.

[Lackadaisical2]

1)

Enlightening,

2) Because it's easy to spot a sniper hiding, blending in with the backround

Easier if you're not busy peeing.

3) A Soldier is in the US Army, a Marine is in the Marine Corps, Sailor in the Navy, and so on and so forth.

To you, maybe.