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Postby Urceo-Carthage » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:51 pm

Arkinesia wrote:Expecting Marines in the field to behave with some decorum.

That was your first mistake.

Especially after months and months of a barbaric, cowardly enemy hiding behind civilians, shooting at you day and night. Pissing on a few corpses is the least I expect from the US military.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:51 pm

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Lackadaisical2 wrote:I didn't realize there was a video posted in the article (just read the quoted part in the OP), yeah having 5 guys going to piss (or film) at the same time seems unnecessary.

In Marine Corps boot camp, 3-4 guys piss on the same toilet, so I'd assume it's pretty much accepted in the Marine Corps to have a group piss

Thats not the issue, its one of safety, what if they were set upon and they're all too busy with pissing to respond quickly and efficiently?
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Postby Urceo-Carthage » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:53 pm

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Urceo-Carthage wrote:In Marine Corps boot camp, 3-4 guys piss on the same toilet, so I'd assume it's pretty much accepted in the Marine Corps to have a group piss

Thats not the issue, its one of safety, what if they were set upon and they're all too busy with pissing to respond quickly and efficiently?

Sooner or later, they're gonna have to piss in the field, so how does this make any different at all? I don't see how this restricts their ability to respond?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:53 pm

Urceo-Carthage wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I didn't realize there was a video posted in the article (just read the quoted part in the OP), yeah having 5 guys going to piss (or film) at the same time seems unnecessary.

In Marine Corps boot camp, 3-4 guys piss on the same toilet, so I'd assume it's pretty much accepted in the Marine Corps to have a group piss

Never been to Parris Island, have you?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:54 pm

Arkinesia wrote:Expecting Marines in the field to behave with some decorum.

That was your first mistake.

Bullshit.
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Postby New Sheoth VI » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:55 pm

Thats retarded. Big deal, i think its not bad to do that.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:56 pm

Urceo-Carthage wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Thats not the issue, its one of safety, what if they were set upon and they're all too busy with pissing to respond quickly and efficiently?

Sooner or later, they're gonna have to piss in the field, so how does this make any different at all? I don't see how this restricts their ability to respond?

Because they are all grouped together, none of them paying attention to their surroundings.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:56 pm

New Sheoth VI wrote:Thats retarded. Big deal, i think its not bad to do that.

Then I am glad that you aren't a Marine.
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Postby Arkinesia » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:58 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:Expecting Marines in the field to behave with some decorum.

That was your first mistake.

Bullshit.

I knew it was a mistake to take that little ditty out of my sig...
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:58 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Urceo-Carthage wrote:Sooner or later, they're gonna have to piss in the field, so how does this make any different at all? I don't see how this restricts their ability to respond?

Because they are all grouped together, none of them paying attention to their surroundings.
SOP in the field is 1 man from the squad at a time can relieve himself.

What he said, I'm not familiar with SOP, but that sounds logical.
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Postby Urceo-Carthage » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:58 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Urceo-Carthage wrote:Sooner or later, they're gonna have to piss in the field, so how does this make any different at all? I don't see how this restricts their ability to respond?

Because they are all grouped together, none of them paying attention to their surroundings.
SOP in the field is 1 man from the squad at a time can relieve himself.

So, you're saying that these men are the only US Military personnel in the middle east who violate the SOP? I'm sure that a Marine or Soldier in the field knows more about combat than a pencil pusher behind a desk. It makes no different if they go all at the same time, or one at a time.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:00 pm

Urceo-Carthage wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Because they are all grouped together, none of them paying attention to their surroundings.
SOP in the field is 1 man from the squad at a time can relieve himself.

So, you're saying that these men are the only US Military personnel in the middle east who violate the SOP?

Clearly everyone has said that only these 4-5 soldiers ought to be prosecuted, and no one else.

I'm sure that a Marine or Soldier in the field knows more about combat than a pencil pusher behind a desk. It makes no different if they go all at the same time, or one at a time.

:palm:
He just explained why it makes a difference.
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Postby Milks Empire » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:01 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Cromarty wrote:Do we really want to get into America: Continent or Country pedantry just 7 posts into the thread?

Doesn't matter. Why is an entire nation being judged for the actions of some idiots?

It's legitimate when the mainstream culture fosters this kind of behavior.

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Postby Willynillya » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:01 pm

If I had my choice, I'd prefer to be dead if I was to be peed on. Just sayin.

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Postby New Sheoth VI » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:02 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
New Sheoth VI wrote:Thats retarded. Big deal, i think its not bad to do that.

Then I am glad that you aren't a Marine.

I am actually joining the army next year or the year after that, so be ready for alot more "Pissing on dead prick" threads. Prehapes a few spitting, burning, and shiting on aswell.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:02 pm

Our soldiers are the face of our nation. They need to be held to the highest ethical standard.
They need to be punished.
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Postby Urceo-Carthage » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:04 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:Clearly everyone has said that only these 4-5 soldiers ought to be prosecuted, and no one else.

:palm:
He just explained why it makes a difference.

1) That's not what I said. Theres literally hundreds maybe even thousands of US Military personnel that violate SOP out there.

2) Let's say theres a sniper. One guy is pissing; that sniper kills that one guy. If all 5 are pissing at the same time, that one guy still dies. Also, how do we know there weren't other Marines guarding the perimeter?

Also, these are Marines, not soldiers.


New Sheoth VI wrote:I am actually, joining the army next year or the year after that, so be ready for alot more "Pissing on dead prick" threads. Prehapes a few spitting, burning, and shit on aswell.

I just nearly died of laughter
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Postby Boomfook » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:04 pm

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That's what scares me about americans...They seem to think anyone without a US passport is somehow "less valuable" and unimportant. I wouldn't really mind them and their violent ways if they'd just stay in america with their guns and their peanut-butter, but sadly they haven't. This bunch of "ubermensch" have gone all Mongolian on the rest of us. They are truly scary people.

Its nice of you to think we're as scary as the Mongolians were, but we don't have the balls to build giant pyramids out of the skulls of our enemies. :(


You'll have to make do with urinating on random dead people.

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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:04 pm

Urceo-Carthage wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Because they are all grouped together, none of them paying attention to their surroundings.
SOP in the field is 1 man from the squad at a time can relieve himself.

So, you're saying that these men are the only US Military personnel in the middle east who violate the SOP? I'm sure that a Marine or Soldier in the field knows more about combat than a pencil pusher behind a desk.

I doubt it, but they were stupid enough to allow themselves to be filmed whilst doing it. And most of the SOPs in the USMC are created by line soldiers.
Urceo-Carthage wrote:It makes no different if they go all at the same time, or one at a time.

:rofl: Thanks for proving you haven't a fucking clue as to what you're talking about.
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Postby Milks Empire » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:04 pm

New Sheoth VI wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Then I am glad that you aren't a Marine.

I am actually, joining the army next year or the year after that, so be ready for alot more "Pissing on dead prick" threads. Prehapes a few spitting, burning, and shit on aswell.

It's people spouting off like this who make me ashamed as fuck to be from this country.

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Postby Tekania » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:04 pm

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and the occasional torpedo.

Why dry-hump large phallic symbols?


When you're in month five of a six month sea deployment where you spend most of your time hiding below the waves you have to find some way to entertain yourself.
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Postby Waric Germany » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:05 pm

Haa they should because of 9/11 and is not as bad as 9/11

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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:06 pm

New Sheoth VI wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Then I am glad that you aren't a Marine.

I am actually, joining the army next year or the year after that, so be ready for alot more "Pissing on dead prick" threads. Prehapes a few spitting, burning, and shit on aswell.

I gleefully await you departure to Fort Leavenworth.
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Postby Urceo-Carthage » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:07 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Urceo-Carthage wrote:So, you're saying that these men are the only US Military personnel in the middle east who violate the SOP? I'm sure that a Marine or Soldier in the field knows more about combat than a pencil pusher behind a desk.

I doubt it, but they were stupid enough to allow themselves to be filmed whilst doing it. And most of the SOPs in the USMC are created by line soldiers.
Urceo-Carthage wrote:It makes no different if they go all at the same time, or one at a time.

:rofl: Thanks for proving you haven't a fucking clue as to what you're talking about.


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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:07 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Tekania wrote:
and the occasional torpedo.

Why dry-hump large phallic symbols?


Well...he was a Navy man.

;)

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