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by Delemont Septentrio » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:59 pm

by Mavorpen » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:59 pm
Ifreann wrote:Sorry, but the society would need to move past religion in order to have technological advancement of millions of years ahead of us.

by TheIncorporation » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:00 pm

by Eleutheria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:01 pm

by Leepaidamba » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:01 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Leepaidamba wrote:Unless they came to us wearing the cross reading from the bible in their language with exactly the same stories in it.
Chances are about as slim as there being no other life in a universe of undetermined size but we may never know.
Sorry, but the society would need to move past religion in order to have technological advancement of millions of years ahead of us.
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by Unchecked Expansion » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:02 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?
...I just don't get it.
Now, I'm not saying I don't do the same thing, but if you guys were better people, you probably wouldn't do it, thus showing that you guys are superior. I fail to see such a thing.

by Crystalcliff Point » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:02 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?

by Delemont Septentrio » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:04 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?
...I just don't get it.
Now, I'm not saying I don't do the same thing, but if you guys were better people, you probably wouldn't do it, thus showing that you guys are superior. I fail to see such a thing.

by TheIncorporation » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:06 pm
Delemont Septentrio wrote:TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?
...I just don't get it.
Now, I'm not saying I don't do the same thing, but if you guys were better people, you probably wouldn't do it, thus showing that you guys are superior. I fail to see such a thing.
I honestly don't care if you believe in a God, it's not doing me any harm. No one said atheists were superior people, there are idiots in all fields of belief and genuinely good people in each as well.

by TheIncorporation » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:08 pm
Unchecked Expansion wrote:TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?
...I just don't get it.
Now, I'm not saying I don't do the same thing, but if you guys were better people, you probably wouldn't do it, thus showing that you guys are superior. I fail to see such a thing.
Are you meaning often on the internet, or often in real life?

by Tubbsalot » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:08 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Oh gosh you really should actually try to read books that talk about alien civilizations before spouting nonsense. There's a brick wall that civilizations have to overcome in order to become advanced like we believe alien civilizations will be like. Religion is one of those because it separates us, makes us weak, impairs our minds, societies, etc.

by Eleutheria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:08 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?
...I just don't get it.
Now, I'm not saying I don't do the same thing, but if you guys were better people, you probably wouldn't do it, thus showing that you guys are superior. I fail to see such a thing.

by Mavorpen » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:10 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?
...I just don't get it.
Now, I'm not saying I don't do the same thing, but if you guys were better people, you probably wouldn't do it, thus showing that you guys are superior. I fail to see such a thing.

by Leepaidamba » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:10 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?
...I just don't get it.
Now, I'm not saying I don't do the same thing, but if you guys were better people, you probably wouldn't do it, thus showing that you guys are superior. I fail to see such a thing.
Factbook Official name: the Grand Duchy of Leepaidamba Short name: Amba AKA: the Grand Duchy Demonym: Leepaidamban/Amban HoS: co-Grand Dukes David I and Anna I HoG: Premier Jaap de Waal Region: Nederland Map by PB FlagsNational animal: Rabit National motto: "Paene est non." (Almost is not) National anthem: " 't Lied der Vrijheid" (the Song of Freedom) CapitalsCurrency: Amban Florin/Aƒ Languages
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by TheIncorporation » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:10 pm
Eleutheria wrote:TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?
...I just don't get it.
Now, I'm not saying I don't do the same thing, but if you guys were better people, you probably wouldn't do it, thus showing that you guys are superior. I fail to see such a thing.
This is something quite common amongst believers, because they are so used to being sheltered and not having their believe criticised they presume that any critisism is said in anger, critisism that if said about a restraunt or about a television show would be considered mild. Of course I dont hate you believers, I am close to hating the catholic church and members of its hierachy, but not the individual lay members

by Ceannairceach » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:12 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:Eleutheria wrote:This is something quite common amongst believers, because they are so used to being sheltered and not having their believe criticised they presume that any critisism is said in anger, critisism that if said about a restraunt or about a television show would be considered mild. Of course I dont hate you believers, I am close to hating the catholic church and members of its hierachy, but not the individual lay members
I don't really like the Catholic church as much either. Ugh, the Pope.
As said above, Atheists are fine, I just seriously dislike the ones that argue about it and look down on religious beliefs.

by TheIncorporation » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:13 pm
Leepaidamba wrote:TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?
...I just don't get it.
Now, I'm not saying I don't do the same thing, but if you guys were better people, you probably wouldn't do it, thus showing that you guys are superior. I fail to see such a thing.
In a sense we're trying to convert you. Not to atheism but to skepticism, or rationalism, or humanism, or all three, or something else.
Why? Because we think living a life free of superstition, with beliefs grounded in evidence and reason, is better than living any other life. In the end though, the choice is up to whoever is listening. You can choose to start doubting your worldview and find out whether it's holds up, or you can live on as you are.
It's probably also because we view discussion and debate as of incredible importance to our views. We want our views to be challenged because we know the truth doesn't fear challenges.

by Dumb Ideologies » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:13 pm

by Ceannairceach » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:15 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:But why would you want to view your life as this:
Eat, sleep, drink, be merry, die. Non-existence.
It's just so...pointless.

by Delemont Septentrio » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:15 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:Leepaidamba wrote:In a sense we're trying to convert you. Not to atheism but to skepticism, or rationalism, or humanism, or all three, or something else.
Why? Because we think living a life free of superstition, with beliefs grounded in evidence and reason, is better than living any other life. In the end though, the choice is up to whoever is listening. You can choose to start doubting your worldview and find out whether it's holds up, or you can live on as you are.
It's probably also because we view discussion and debate as of incredible importance to our views. We want our views to be challenged because we know the truth doesn't fear challenges.
...yeah...
I mean, it's not like I don't doubt religion, it's just that's what I've been raised with and I still haven't seen a compelling reason why to dismiss it. I'm already fairly skeptic. Not so much rational. And humanism? Bah. Humans are kind of stupid. We run around killing each other. I've been doubting my worldview for a while, but I've researched a large amount on both sides and still see no compelling reason to drop faith.
I have to admit, the discussion and debate part seems important.
But why would you want to view your life as this:
Eat, sleep, drink, be merry, die. Non-existence.
It's just so...pointless.

by Ravineworld » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:15 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:This is the one thing I have against atheism.
You're often in people's faces about it. Is it because you want to "convert me", or are you merely pitying me? Why do you pity me if I'm happy in believing in God?
...I just don't get it.
Now, I'm not saying I don't do the same thing, but if you guys were better people, you probably wouldn't do it, thus showing that you guys are superior. I fail to see such a thing.


by TheIncorporation » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:16 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:TheIncorporation wrote:
I don't really like the Catholic church as much either. Ugh, the Pope.
As said above, Atheists are fine, I just seriously dislike the ones that argue about it and look down on religious beliefs.
Why shouldn't we argue about it, especially in situations when arguing is permitted or even encouraged? Also, why shouldn't we "look down on" (read: criticize) certain religious beliefs we find immoral, unethical, or what have you?

by Ifreann » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:17 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Oh gosh you really should actually try to read books that talk about alien civilizations before spouting nonsense. There's a brick wall that civilizations have to overcome in order to become advanced like we believe alien civilizations will be like. Religion is one of those because it separates us, makes us weak, impairs our minds, societies, etc.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Because the concept of a being greater than myself is so absurd as to lack any credibility.

by Ceannairceach » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:17 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:Ceannairceach wrote:Why shouldn't we argue about it, especially in situations when arguing is permitted or even encouraged? Also, why shouldn't we "look down on" (read: criticize) certain religious beliefs we find immoral, unethical, or what have you?
Well, I mean, it's not like I don't find some of the beliefs the Catholic Church holds immoral or unethical. Like in the Middle Ages, what they did was unacceptable. And large churches that spend money on giant buildings with unnessecary rooms and equipment...no, I don't like those.

by Mavorpen » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:17 pm
TheIncorporation wrote:I mean, it's not like I don't doubt religion, it's just that's what I've been raised with and I still haven't seen a compelling reason why to dismiss it. I'm already fairly skeptic. Not so much rational. And humanism? Bah. Humans are kind of stupid. We run around killing each other. I've been doubting my worldview for a while, but I've researched a large amount on both sides and still see no compelling reason to drop faith.
I have to admit, the discussion and debate part seems important.
But why would you want to view your life as this:
Eat, sleep, drink, be merry, die. Non-existence.
It's just so...pointless.
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