Scottish Independence - Yay or Nay? (Poll)

[The Matthew Islands]

Hmm, so you think the British are so violent to do genocides and concentration camps, hmm. possible... But if you say so I believe you.

The British Invented the non combatrnt internment camp in the Boar War.

Actually they were used before that, by I think the Spanish and the Americans.

It was one of the piss poor excuses Churchill used to try and justify it.

[Horsefish]

Actually they were used before that, by I think the Spanish and the Americans.

Which is correct. In all fairness they weren't meant to have the appallingly high casulty rates, the people in charge were just fucking idiots.

A bad idea, implemented badly.

[CaptainOzz]

I'm sure Scotland loves it's free prescriptions, tuition fees, fire & rescue service, police force, NHS, ambulance service, devolved parliment, social care & welfare along with all the other what nots it couldn't afford without the British taxpayer, I'm all for Scottish independence! Let's see how long that north sea oil lasts you, hm?

[SD_Film Artists]

Apparently Salmond wants to bring the voting age to 16 because of there being more popularity with independence with the young. I may have more respect for the SNP if they just got on with the vote now rather than trying to select the best possible time to vote with the best possible people.

[Tagmatium]

Apparently Salmond wants to bring the voting age to 16 because of there being more popularity with independence with the young. I may have more respect for the SNP if they just got on with the vote now rather than trying to select the best possible time to vote with the best possible people.

I'm beginning to become somewhat convinced that Salmond only wants independence and damn all the rest that it could entail.

[Kirrig]

Apparently Salmond wants to bring the voting age to 16 because of there being more popularity with independence with the young. I may have more respect for the SNP if they just got on with the vote now rather than trying to select the best possible time to vote with the best possible people.

I'm beginning to become somewhat convinced that Salmond only wants independence and damn all the rest that it could entail.

Your common idealist ignores the practical.

[Trixiestan]

Apparently Salmond wants to bring the voting age to 16 because of there being more popularity with independence with the young. I may have more respect for the SNP if they just got on with the vote now rather than trying to select the best possible time to vote with the best possible people.

I'm beginning to become somewhat convinced that Salmond only wants independence and damn all the rest that it could entail.

>Wants independence and damn the rest
>Keeps on saying he wants an option for devo max
>Labour, Tories and Lib Dems all want the only choices to be "FREEDOM" or "NOPE"

If you say so bro.

[Kulverint]

Yeah, I too don't think it will end in violence, but I guess there still will be scars.

I agree with you, british nationalists made great atrocities during the history like in Africa I wont be surprised if they wont respect the democratic will of the scotish people.

So you think a government consisting of 28% Scots would invade and subjugate Scotland if they voted yes?

Please, live in the real world, not the fantasy land you inhabit where everything must end in war.

[Angleter]

I agree with you, british nationalists made great atrocities during the history like in Africa I wont be surprised if they wont respect the democratic will of the scotish people.

So you think a government consisting of 28% Scots would invade and subjugate Scotland if they voted yes?

Please, live in the real world, not the fantasy land you inhabit where everything must end in war.

But British EVIL. Alan Rickman will come to take away Scotland's freedom.

[Kleomentia]

Well, not that i care too much about it but i think that it may be better for them to stay in the UK.

[Kulverint]

So you think a government consisting of 28% Scots would invade and subjugate Scotland if they voted yes?

Please, live in the real world, not the fantasy land you inhabit where everything must end in war.

But British EVIL. Alan Rickman will come to take away Scotland's freedom.

Damn. Forgot about him. I concede the point.

[Cromarty]

The British Invented the non combatrnt internment camp in the Boar War.

not really

[Proloteriat]

Whatever the people say is what I think. I don't mind either way. I am Welsh but I have no strong opinions for or against scottlands independence but I am against Welsh independence as it is not sustainable.

[Alyakia]

I'm sure Scotland loves it's free prescriptions, tuition fees, fire & rescue service, police force, NHS, ambulance service, devolved parliment, social care & welfare along with all the other what nots it couldn't afford without the British taxpayer, I'm all for Scottish independence! Let's see how long that north sea oil lasts you, hm?

we need to find some way to make people read entire threads before posting

[SD_Film Artists]

Whatever the people say is what I think. I don't mind either way. I am Welsh but I have no strong opinions for or against scottlands independence but I am against Welsh independence as it is not sustainable.

Actually it might be more sustainable than Scotland; Wales would be a very small nation if it were independent, but IIRC at least it isn't living off its parents (England*) and then thinking it'll be so cool to be independent as is the case with Scotland. An independent Wales will be more sustainable, albiet still pointless in my humble opinion..

*not that Wales is England's child; that'll be places like America.

[Marcurix]

I'm sure Scotland loves it's free prescriptions, tuition fees, fire & rescue service, police force, NHS, ambulance service, devolved parliment, social care & welfare along with all the other what nots it couldn't afford without the British taxpayer, I'm all for Scottish independence! Let's see how long that north sea oil lasts you, hm?

we need to find some way to make people read entire threads before posting

Could try what they do with terms of usage agreements.

Whatever the people say is what I think. I don't mind either way. I am Welsh but I have no strong opinions for or against scottlands independence but I am against Welsh independence as it is not sustainable.

Actually it might be more sustainable than Scotland; Wales would be a very small nation if it were independent, but IIRC at least it isn't living off its parents (England) and then thinking it'll be so cool to be independent as is the case with Scotland. An independent Wales will be more sustainable, albiet still pointless in my humble opinion..

The problem with any part of the UK separating is that no one is entirely sure what will happen until they separate. Though I dispute the SNP's surplus claim by their own figures and such, this is mostly speculation.

[Seperates]

I really don't see a point. It's like Texas trying to break away from the U.S.

[Alyakia]

Whatever the people say is what I think. I don't mind either way. I am Welsh but I have no strong opinions for or against scottlands independence but I am against Welsh independence as it is not sustainable.

Actually it might be more sustainable than Scotland; Wales would be a very small nation if it were independent, but IIRC at least it isn't living off its parents (England*) and then thinking it'll be so cool to be independent as is the case with Scotland. An independent Wales will be more sustainable, albiet still pointless in my humble opinion..

*not that Wales is England's child; that'll be places like America.

Wales, being far far more integrated with England, also doesn't leech from it (as much!!!) because Scotland is poor and their sole reason for any sort of political movement is FREEEEEEEEDOM and feeling cool. Good post.

[Zersium]

I really don't see a point. It's like Texas trying to break away from the U.S.

Confederancy Time. HELL YEAH.

[Seperates]

I really don't see a point. It's like Texas trying to break away from the U.S.

Confederancy Time. HELL YEAH.

*Crushs with the Iron Boot of Oppression* Quiet you.

[SD_Film Artists]

Private property how? Using money that the monarchy got from being the monarchy? I no like....

i'm not familiar with victorias personal finances

Because the union allows for Scotland to be part of something bigger, more powerful... Heck, as a part of the UK, Scotland has a permenant seat on the UN security council. not to say that I'm against giving greater freedoms to the Scottish Parliament.

If the UK, France and Germany became one we would get pretty close to getting back to "ruling the world" status. Bigger, more powerful. But no one that loves the UK ever seems up for that, for some reason. Perhaps due to ego and nationalism.

And not sharing 300 years as a globe conquering island.

[SD_Film Artists]

*snip for keeping chronological track*

[Alyakia]

i'm not familiar with victorias personal finances



If the UK, France and Germany became one we would get pretty close to getting back to "ruling the world" status. Bigger, more powerful. But no one that loves the UK ever seems up for that, for some reason. Perhaps due to ego and nationalism.

And not sharing 300 years as a globe conquering island.

If you only support unions with countries that you're already unified with I'd love to see what you'd have said in the 1600s.

"300 years as a globe conquering" island is pretty much ego and nationalism. Because hey, people love talking about how awesome the Empire was.

[Zersium]

And not sharing 300 years as a globe conquering island.

If you only support unions with countries that you're already unified with I'd love to see what you'd have said in the 1600s.

"300 years as a globe conquering" island is pretty much ego and nationalism. Because hey, people love talking about how awesome the Empire was.

Better than what we are now. I mean, there was a time when Britain used to make the Yanks feel scared. Now it's the other way around.

[Alyakia]

Wales, being far far more integrated with England, also doesn't leech from it (as much!!!) because Scotland is poor and their sole reason for any sort of political movement is FREEEEEEEEDOM and feeling cool. Good post.

Well I wouldn't say sole reason, but if I interview some Scottish 16 yr olds (the age of which Alex Salmond wants the vote to be brought down to in this referendum) I don't think I'd get- "Because Scotland could survive and even thrive very well with North Sea oil and the progressive social/economic policies which I've seen to be much better than those of Labour and the Conservatives".

You might be suprised. There are plenty of 16 year olds that will be saying "Because the British empire ruled the world! Hell yeah! Rule Britannnia!"

Do you think 16 year olds are going to be the majority of voters?