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Postby Death Metal » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:09 pm

I won't give an opinion. I'll give facts.

Salem Witch Hunts- Dozens of people executed in a strict theocratic community, the mastermind of which eventually became a prostitute. In fact, their trial methods included drowning people; those who died were declared innocent. If they had lived, they'd have been killed anyway for being a witch.

Spanish Inquisition- Tortured and murdered thousands of people over accusations of witchcraft.

England- Pagan religion was outright banned until the 1950s.

United States of America- Forced Mormons to ban polygamy as it clashed with traditional Christian monogamy, which violated the Constitution.

All over the Christian world- People persecuted... sometimes even murdered... for being homosexual.

Crusades- Millions killed for not being Christian.

Germany- Nine million people systematically executed by a devout Catholic.

All of this- In history books.
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Postby The Prussian Federation of German States » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:12 pm

Death Metal wrote:I won't give an opinion. I'll give facts.

Salem Witch Hunts- Dozens of people executed in a strict theocratic community, the mastermind of which eventually became a prostitute. In fact, their trial methods included drowning people; those who died were declared innocent. If they had lived, they'd have been killed anyway for being a witch.

Spanish Inquisition- Tortured and murdered thousands of people over accusations of witchcraft.

England- Pagan religion was outright banned until the 1950s.

United States of America- Forced Mormons to ban polygamy as it clashed with traditional Christian monogamy, which violated the Constitution.

All over the Christian world- People persecuted... sometimes even murdered... for being homosexual.

Crusades- Millions killed for not being Christian.

Germany- Nine million people systematically executed by a devout Catholic.

All of this- In history books.

All of those killing were justified because of the intentions behind them.
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:14 pm

See, not a troll. Just a bigot.
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Postby Hittanryan » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:18 pm

The Prussian Federation of German States wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:The troll alert just went off, and I'm getting high readings on the Poe meter. Move along.

You heard me, thread, GET ON WITH IT!

Why the hell do you people keep on calling me a troll is that the new word for fascist or what?

No, it's the word for a person who posts dumb shit with the intention of provocation.

God damn it, I broke my own rule: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
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Postby The Prussian Federation of German States » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:23 pm

I assure you all that I am not trolling as you all claim I am just debating. I give my word as an honorable white Albertan I am not Trolling or provoking any of you.
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:25 pm

Dude, he just said The Holocaust was justified.

That's not trolldom. That's bigotry. Hypocritical statements are like butter to the bread of bigots' hateful, evil souls.
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34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

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Postby Hittanryan » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:28 pm

Death Metal wrote:Dude, he just said The Holocaust was justified.

That's not trolldom. That's bigotry. Hypocritical statements are like butter to the bread of bigots' hateful, evil souls.

You kidding? That's a classic troll ploy, easy way to piss people off. Ignore him, he'll go away eventually if we stop responding. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
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Postby The Prussian Federation of German States » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:32 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Death Metal wrote:Dude, he just said The Holocaust was justified.

That's not trolldom. That's bigotry. Hypocritical statements are like butter to the bread of bigots' hateful, evil souls.

You kidding? That's a classic troll ploy, easy way to piss people off. Ignore him, he'll go away eventually if we stop responding. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.

what the hell is this if you posted your political opinion I would not say a good Damn word about trolling. Just because I am fascist your calling me a troll.
Really?
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Postby Allrule » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:34 pm

The Prussian Federation of German States wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:You kidding? That's a classic troll ploy, easy way to piss people off. Ignore him, he'll go away eventually if we stop responding. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.

what the hell is this if you posted your political opinion I would not say a good Damn word about trolling. Just because I am fascist your calling me a troll.
Really?

We're calling you a troll because you said the GODDAMN HOLOCAUST was justified. That is THE classic troll ploy.
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Postby The Prussian Federation of German States » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:38 pm

Allrule wrote:
The Prussian Federation of German States wrote:what the hell is this if you posted your political opinion I would not say a good Damn word about trolling. Just because I am fascist your calling me a troll.
Really?

We're calling you a troll because you said the GODDAMN HOLOCAUST was justified. That is THE classic troll ploy.

WHAT TROLL PlOY!!! I believe what I believe because every has there own opinion so for the final time I am not trolling. I don't care if its the classic troll ploy I believe honently the holocaust was justified! There do you believe me know
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:38 pm

I really don't care if you're a fascist or not. I don't agree with you, but I don't have problems with you because of it.

I don't think you're a troll either. Just a white supremacist/superfundamentalist.

And for that? I pity you. All that hate must make you a miserable human being.
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Death Metal: A nation founded on the most powerful force in the world: METAL! \m/
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Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
Con: Censorship in any medium, Sales Tax, Flat Tax, Small Govt, Overly Large Govt, Laissez Faire, AutoTuner.

I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:39 pm

Death Metal wrote:I won't give an opinion. I'll give facts.

Salem Witch Hunts- Dozens of people executed in a strict theocratic community, the mastermind of which eventually became a prostitute. In fact, their trial methods included drowning people; those who died were declared innocent. If they had lived, they'd have been killed anyway for being a witch.

Spanish Inquisition- No one expected it.

England- Pagan religion was outright banned until the 1950s.

United States of America- Forced Mormons to ban polygamy as it clashed with traditional Christian monogamy, which violated the Constitution.

All over the Christian world- People persecuted... sometimes even murdered... for being homosexual.

Crusades- Millions killed for not being Christian. Or Muslim. Or a particular shade of the color blue.

Germany- Nine million people systematically executed by a devout Catholic. Sure, he was a madman, but he was CATHOLIC, dammit!

All of this- In history books.


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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:42 pm

Allrule wrote:
The Prussian Federation of German States wrote:what the hell is this if you posted your political opinion I would not say a good Damn word about trolling. Just because I am fascist your calling me a troll.
Really?

We're calling you a troll because you said the GODDAMN HOLOCAUST was justified. That is THE classic troll ploy.


You know else thought the Holocaust was justified?

Himmler.






Wait, I don't think that's how that meme goes...

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Postby The Prussian Federation of German States » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:43 pm

Death Metal wrote:I really don't care if you're a fascist or not. I don't agree with you, but I don't have problems with you because of it.

I don't think you're a troll either. Just a white supremacist/superfundamentalist.

And for that? I pity you. All that hate must make you a miserable human being.

I must live with it because of all the injustice against white people. I don't know how it is in America but here in Canada the federal government continues to paper these so called opressed gropus. These oprresions happened hundreds of years ago how long does it take to get your Shit together. We must not focus on the past but the future.
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Postby Yootwopia » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:47 pm

Death Metal wrote:England- Pagan religion was outright banned until the 1950s.

I'm sure literally tens of tryhards a year were made miserable by having nothing interesting (to them) to say about themselves until this changed.
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Postby United Dependencies » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:48 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Allrule wrote:We're calling you a troll because you said the GODDAMN HOLOCAUST was justified. That is THE classic troll ploy.


You know else thought the Holocaust was justified?

Himmler.






Wait, I don't think that's how that meme goes...

Goering?
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:50 pm

The Prussian Federation of German States wrote:
Death Metal wrote:I really don't care if you're a fascist or not. I don't agree with you, but I don't have problems with you because of it.

I don't think you're a troll either. Just a white supremacist/superfundamentalist.

And for that? I pity you. All that hate must make you a miserable human being.

I must live with it because of all the injustice against white people. I don't know how it is in America but here in Canada the federal government continues to paper these so called opressed gropus. These oprresions happened hundreds of years ago how long does it take to get your Shit together. We must not focus on the past but the future.


Well, I hope one day you get what you need: For people of all faiths and races to give you a hug.
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Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
Con: Censorship in any medium, Sales Tax, Flat Tax, Small Govt, Overly Large Govt, Laissez Faire, AutoTuner.

I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:51 pm

The Prussian Federation of German States wrote:I assure you all that I am not trolling as you all claim I am just debating. I give my word as an honorable white Albertan I am not Trolling or provoking any of you.

At this point I don't care if you're trolling or dragging the megathread totally off-topic. KNOCK IT OFF and stay on topic.

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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:11 pm

Death Metal wrote:Quick, name a democratic theocracy that did not crumble under it's own corruption like Rome did.

Go.

Crumble under it's own corruption? Democratic Theocracy? Are you trying to give me a stroke, or is it just a handy side-effect?
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:13 pm

Greater Tezdrian wrote:
Death Metal wrote:Quick, name a democratic theocracy that did not crumble under it's own corruption like Rome did.

Go.

Crumble under it's own corruption? Democratic Theocracy? Are you trying to give me a stroke, or is it just a handy side-effect?


Well the corruption certainly sped things up if nothing else, and Democratic Theocracy only in the very loosest definitions of democracy.
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Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
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I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

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Postby Hittanryan » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:15 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Greater Tezdrian wrote:Crumble under it's own corruption? Democratic Theocracy? Are you trying to give me a stroke, or is it just a handy side-effect?


Well the corruption certainly sped things up if nothing else, and Democratic Theocracy only in the very loosest definitions of democracy.

At the time of collapse, Rome was not a democracy, not by a long shot. However, the point still stands that history is distinctly short of any theocracies that could be considered democratic by any stretch of the imagination.
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:29 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
Well the corruption certainly sped things up if nothing else, and Democratic Theocracy only in the very loosest definitions of democracy.

At the time of collapse, Rome was not a democracy, not by a long shot. However, the point still stands that history is distinctly short of any theocracies that could be considered democratic by any stretch of the imagination.


To be fair, the Roman era isn't exactly my strongest point of historical knowledge, and I'm more a history enthusiast than a 'buff'. But yeah, that was my point.
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Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
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I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

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The Prussian Federation of German States wrote:It does matter what Religion because for example a Muslim theoretic state would be bad for the people because well good honest Christians would never harm anyone in the slightest.

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Postby Sremski okrug » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:42 pm

The Prussian Federation of German States wrote:It does matter what Religion because for example a Muslim theoretic state would be bad for the people because well good honest Christians would never harm anyone in the slightest.


I'm fairly certain my troll detector just went off the charts.
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:10 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:
The Prussian Federation of German States wrote:I assure you all that I am not trolling as you all claim I am just debating. I give my word as an honorable white Albertan I am not Trolling or provoking any of you.

At this point I don't care if you're trolling or dragging the megathread totally off-topic. KNOCK IT OFF and stay on topic.

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