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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:13 am

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EDIT- Speaking about the drug laws thing... that's one thing I can actually almost agree with him on. Problem is, he's anti-regulation, and I feel that drugs need to be at least as regulated as alcohol is.

Actually, most alcohol regulation in the US tends to be at the State level. But I agree, I think all drugs should be handled the way alcohol is handled in the US, it's a tried and true system. A Goldilocks system of sorts.


Exactly. Federal government base law with the states allowed to add on their own regulations if they want.

Which is ironically what worries me most about Paul, is that he's just way too "LEGISLATE ALL THE THINGS AT STATE LEVEL ONLY!". That's just as dangerous as the other extreme.
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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:27 am

This is like choosing between getting eaten alive by a lion or getting boiled alive in oil.. Both are shitty choices, Obama is going to ruin America but so is Ron Paul.. Anyway, I think I'd still go with Obama. He might not understand a thing about the shitty state of our economy, but at least he isn't an isolationist like Paul.
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:33 am

Hippostania wrote:This is like choosing between getting eaten alive by a lion or getting boiled alive in oil.. Both are shitty choices, Obama is going to ruin America but so is Ron Paul.. Anyway, I think I'd still go with Obama. He might not understand a thing about the shitty state of our economy, but at least he isn't an isolationist like Paul.

Aren't you Finnish and planning to go to Uni in the UK? How can you say 'our'? :eyebrow:
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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:43 am

Cromarty wrote:
Hippostania wrote:This is like choosing between getting eaten alive by a lion or getting boiled alive in oil.. Both are shitty choices, Obama is going to ruin America but so is Ron Paul.. Anyway, I think I'd still go with Obama. He might not understand a thing about the shitty state of our economy, but at least he isn't an isolationist like Paul.

Aren't you Finnish and planning to go to Uni in the UK? How can you say 'our'? :eyebrow:

...I tend to use ''us'' instead of ''them'' when I'm talking about the US. It's just a habit I can't get rid of :D
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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:27 am

Oh by the way, I did a bit of fact checking and the powers in the NDAA is actually stated in the AUMF, not the Patriot Act

But guess who voted yes for on the AUMF?

Ron Paul.

:)


EDIT- Oh and if you don't believe me, here's the roll call from the AUMF vote:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll342.xml
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Postby Juristonia » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:30 am

I'm pretty sure a loon like Ron Paul will never get anywhere near the oval office.
Not matter how hard the Paulbots on the interwebs cry about it.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:52 am

Hippostania wrote:
Cromarty wrote:Aren't you Finnish and planning to go to Uni in the UK? How can you say 'our'? :eyebrow:

...I tend to use ''us'' instead of ''them'' when I'm talking about the US. It's just a habit I can't get rid of :D

Try harder.
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Postby Milks Empire » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:01 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Hippostania wrote:...I tend to use ''us'' instead of ''them'' when I'm talking about the US. It's just a habit I can't get rid of :D

Try harder.

Yes, for the love of God, please do.

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Postby Nova Nacio » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:11 am

Juristonia wrote:I'm pretty sure a loon like Ron Paul will never get anywhere near the oval office.
Not matter how hard the Paulbots on the interwebs cry about it.


They say Paul scares the establishment.... Are there any other lies people want to tell me, or can I go back to wishing for World War III to break the US apart, like needed?

I say the US should break apart instead of relying on a failing system. Sure they'll be constant anarchy (in-street deaths) and constant gang war, but people will be a lot happier getting away with what they want without some old retarded fucks standing in their way.

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Postby Milks Empire » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:14 am

Nova Nacio wrote:
Juristonia wrote:I'm pretty sure a loon like Ron Paul will never get anywhere near the oval office.
Not matter how hard the Paulbots on the interwebs cry about it.

They say Paul scares the establishment.... Are there any other lies people want to tell me, or can I go back to wishing for World War III to break the US apart, like needed?
I say the US should break apart instead of relying on a failing system. Sure they'll be constant anarchy (in-street deaths) and constant gang war, but people will be a lot happier getting away with what they want without some old retarded fucks standing in their way.

Please be sarcasm, because, if not...
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Postby Jordan » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:14 am

If I was forced to choose between them, I'd choose Obama.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:28 am

Nova Nacio wrote:
Juristonia wrote:I'm pretty sure a loon like Ron Paul will never get anywhere near the oval office.
Not matter how hard the Paulbots on the interwebs cry about it.


They say Paul scares the establishment.... Are there any other lies people want to tell me, or can I go back to wishing for World War III to break the US apart, like needed?

I say the US should break apart instead of relying on a failing system. Sure they'll be constant anarchy (in-street deaths) and constant gang war, but people will be a lot happier getting away with what they want without some old retarded fucks standing in their way.

Uh huh. I think you should concentrate on graduating from high school first, then solve the world's problems.
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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:39 am

Nova Nacio wrote:I say the US should break apart instead of relying on a failing system. Sure they'll be constant anarchy (in-street deaths) and constant gang war, but people will be a lot happier getting away with what they want without some old retarded fucks standing in their way.



Because it works so well for Somalia, right?
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Postby Milks Empire » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:47 am

Death Metal wrote:
Nova Nacio wrote:I say the US should break apart instead of relying on a failing system. Sure they'll be constant anarchy (in-street deaths) and constant gang war, but people will be a lot happier getting away with what they want without some old retarded fucks standing in their way.

Because it works so well for Somalia, right?

In some parts better than in others... :p

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:55 am

Milks Empire wrote:
Death Metal wrote:Because it works so well for Somalia, right?

In some parts better than in others... :p

But Somaliland is a refutation of what's happened in the rest of that "country."
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Is Ron Paul a prophet?

Postby Aquophia » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:40 am

Very interesting video that I just came across. Ill just leave it here for interpretation.

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=x-RPJ ... dded#at=97

Edit: Opinion:He is definitely not a prophet.
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Postby Aesthetica » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:43 am

You mean is he a senile old fart who mumbles demented gibberish and holds repellent bigoted views that he claims are in accordance with the will of some deity?

Hmm, you might have a point...
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Postby Ashmoria » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:43 am

no he's not.
whatever

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Postby Aquophia » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:45 am

Aesthetica wrote:You mean is he a senile old fart who mumbles demented gibberish and holds repellent bigoted views that he claims are in accordance with the will of some deity?

Hmm, you might have a point...

Man you watched that video pretty quickly. The video itself was 3 minutes long and you responded in 3 minutes. So either you are a really fast typer, or you didnt watch it at all. :eyebrow:
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:48 am

Aquophia wrote:
Aesthetica wrote:You mean is he a senile old fart who mumbles demented gibberish and holds repellent bigoted views that he claims are in accordance with the will of some deity?

Hmm, you might have a point...

Man you watched that video pretty quickly. The video itself was 3 minutes long and you responded in 3 minutes. So either you are a really fast typer, or you didnt watch it at all. :eyebrow:

Or he doesn't need to, seeing as Ron Paul is a racist, homophobic dick.
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Postby Ashmoria » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:48 am

Aquophia wrote:
Aesthetica wrote:You mean is he a senile old fart who mumbles demented gibberish and holds repellent bigoted views that he claims are in accordance with the will of some deity?

Hmm, you might have a point...

Man you watched that video pretty quickly. The video itself was 3 minutes long and you responded in 3 minutes. So either you are a really fast typer, or you didnt watch it at all. :eyebrow:

you need to stop expecting people to leave the site in order to figure out what you are talking about.

so ...summarize the point of the video that you found so compelling and add in your own thoughts.

then youll get real responses.
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Postby Aquophia » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:50 am

Cromarty wrote:
Aquophia wrote:Man you watched that video pretty quickly. The video itself was 3 minutes long and you responded in 3 minutes. So either you are a really fast typer, or you didnt watch it at all. :eyebrow:

Or he doesn't need to, seeing as Ron Paul is a racist, homophobic dick.
Id say the final swear in that sentence is a good word to describe anyone who doesnt watch the video before responding.

Now no more trolling. Watch the vid or don't reply at all. It will just be spam if you don't.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:52 am

Aquophia wrote:
Cromarty wrote:Or he doesn't need to, seeing as Ron Paul is a racist, homophobic dick.
Id say the final swear in that sentence is a good word to describe anyone who doesnt watch the video before responding.

Now no more trolling. Watch the vid or don't reply at all. It will just be spam if you don't.

The question is not, did he predict the housing bubble but what has he done to help the economy recover? As far as I can tell, Ron Paul's economic policies would damage the US economy more than the bubble did.

And Ash is right, if you want reasonable responses, summarize the video, don't just leave it there.
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:53 am

Aquophia wrote:
Cromarty wrote:Or he doesn't need to, seeing as Ron Paul is a racist, homophobic dick.
Id say the final swear in that sentence is a good word to describe anyone who doesnt watch the video before responding.

Now no more trolling. Watch the vid or don't reply at all. It will just be spam if you don't.

>doesn't watch video

>is racist, homophobic dick

I'm not sure how this process occurs, but if you'd like to enlighten me... go ahead.
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Postby Tekania » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:54 am

Aesthetica wrote:You mean is he a senile old fart who mumbles demented gibberish and holds repellent bigoted views that he claims are in accordance with the will of some deity?

Hmm, you might have a point...


Now listen here.... "repellant bigoted views" are optional.
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