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Who Will Win the Republican nomination?

Newt Gingrich
67
7%
Ron Paul
277
31%
Mitt Romney
469
52%
Rick Santorum
90
10%
 
Total votes : 903

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Postby Anitgrum » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:03 am

New Conglomerate wrote:Parties are the strongest they've ever been, and the amount of partisanship that we're seeing now has never really reached these levels before. It's unsustainable.


No political parties were strongest in the 1800s when the ruling party had the power to fire very single Federal bureaucrat and replace then with loyal party member. Please there have been far more partisan time in American history. For example in 1798 when one congressman Roger Griswold called congressmen Matthew Lyon a scoundrel and a coward in regards to his foreign policy.Well he did not take to kindly to that so he spat on the gentlemen from Connecticut face. An infuriated Roger grabbed his cane and began to beat the gentlemen form Vermont over the head. Matthew somehow managed a get a poker form a nearby fireplace and used it to counterattack Roger. Until a few Congressmen jumped onto the floor of House to break up the fight. Or when the debate over whether Kansas should be a slave or free state got so bad that both side formed militias to fight one another.Which in turn was one of the factors that caused the civil war (the most partisan time in American history). Or when partisan bickering prevented Indiana form appointing a senator to the senate for two years and Delaware for four god dam years.
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Postby Urceo-Carthage » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:24 am

Rick Santorum for president! Lower taxes, more education and defense spending, lower corporate income taxes, more jobs, etc etc. I can't see Romney or Paul doing this.

EDIT: Whoa, whoa ,whoa back this bus up. According to Ron Paul's website, is he planning to have a 1 TRILLION dollar military budget!?! That wins an instant vote from me, if this is true...
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Postby Nathairia » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:30 am

Urceo-Carthage wrote:Rick Santorum for president! Lower taxes, more education and defense spending, lower corporate income taxes, more jobs, etc etc. I can't see Romney or Paul doing this.

EDIT: Whoa, whoa ,whoa back this bus up. According to Ron Paul's website, is he planning to have a 1 TRILLION dollar military budget!?! That wins an instant vote from me, if this is true...

Not sure if serious.

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Postby Ora Amaris » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:02 am

Rick Santorum???
Seriously, America?
:rofl:

You've got to be kidding me.
This guy is a joke!
I can't believe Iowans actually voted for this clown.

He has got to be the stupidest politician I have ever seen.
It's almost like he's a walking Poe's Law.
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Postby Marxismo » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:20 am

Urceo-Carthage wrote:EDIT: Whoa, whoa ,whoa back this bus up. According to Ron Paul's website, is he planning to have a 1 TRILLION dollar military budget!?! That wins an instant vote from me, if this is true...

he does intend to reduce the size of the military by removing our troops overseas, but the $1 trillion in cuts comes from eliminating the departments of education, commerce, energy, interior and housing and urban development.

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Postby Jordan » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:24 am

Hippostania wrote:Rick Santorum's peformance in the Republican candidates debate is really impressing me. While Ron Paul rambled about isolationism like a senile old man, Santorum skillfully explained why that is wrong and how Paul has never accomplished anything! :clap:

Removing military bases =/= isolationism.

I can't believe you're making me defend this guy. :(

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:36 am

Jordan wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Rick Santorum's peformance in the Republican candidates debate is really impressing me. While Ron Paul rambled about isolationism like a senile old man, Santorum skillfully explained why that is wrong and how Paul has never accomplished anything! :clap:

Removing military bases =/= isolationism.

I can't believe you're making me defend this guy. :(

Fine, closing overseas bases is not isolationism. He's still an ass and a fool and a prating coxcomb.
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Postby Dvardis » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:40 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Are the republican candidates all crazy?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16386176

It's interesting to see a Brit understands what is going on with the party. I love their ability to turn a phrase:

"That the debates at times have seemed like a parade of pygmies says something about the state of the Republican party, and I will return to that. "

I don't know why but the imagery just made me go :D

This guy has it spot on. Although that comparison seems a bit unfair to the pygmies.

Urceo-Carthage wrote:EDIT: Whoa, whoa ,whoa back this bus up. According to Ron Paul's website, is he planning to have a 1 TRILLION dollar military budget!?! That wins an instant vote from me, if this is true...

I lol'd.

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Postby Angleter » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:15 am

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:37 am


That's called "job creation." Your mistake is understandable, seeing as how you're of the British persuasion.
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Postby Peoples Democratic Pony Republic » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:43 am

I'm glad Romney is doing so well, I'll probably still vote for Obama though since he's a little closer to my ideals.

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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:49 am


its sorta like an angel getting its wings

everytime someone gets fired, mitt romney gets a dollar.

(unfair charge to level against romeny. not what he was talking about at all)
whatever

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Postby Urceo-Carthage » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:52 pm

Marxismo wrote:
Urceo-Carthage wrote:EDIT: Whoa, whoa ,whoa back this bus up. According to Ron Paul's website, is he planning to have a 1 TRILLION dollar military budget!?! That wins an instant vote from me, if this is true...

he does intend to reduce the size of the military by removing our troops overseas, but the $1 trillion in cuts comes from eliminating the departments of education, commerce, energy, interior and housing and urban development.


Not $1 trillion in cuts, I mean going from our current, like, 580 billion dollar budget and making it 1 trillion for the Military. Or did I read that wrong? I know he's making $1 trillion in federal budget cuts, but is he making a $1 trillion military budget? That would be awesome...

I read through his website before, every issue, and this guy actually has my vote now.
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Postby Angleter » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:30 pm

Ashmoria wrote:

its sorta like an angel getting its wings

everytime someone gets fired, mitt romney gets a dollar.

(unfair charge to level against romeny. not what he was talking about at all)


True, I suppose. God knows what he was thinking, saying it. I find it absolutely hilarious, however, how the comments section to the video- uploaded by 'DemRapidResponse' and about Mitt Romney- has managed to make the argument about Ron Paul.

Meanwhile, Huntsman releases ad, entitled 'Country First', which IIRC was McCain's election slogan in '08. The Guardian liveblog writes:

Can you feel the Huntsmentum? Yes, rocketing up in the polls into figures higher than 9, Jon Huntsman launches an ad attacking Mitt Romney.


Huntsmentum indeed.




As an aside, looking at Santorum's ads on YouTube, he seems to be recycling the shots of him with his family.
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Postby Hamelburg » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:56 pm

Did anyone else just wait until after Iowa to vote for Romney on the poll at the top of the page? :)

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:58 pm

Hamelburg wrote:Did anyone else just wait until after Iowa to vote for Romney on the poll at the top of the page? :)

No.
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Postby Jordan » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:46 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Jordan wrote:Removing military bases =/= isolationism.

I can't believe you're making me defend this guy. :(

Fine, closing overseas bases is not isolationism. He's still an ass and a fool and a prating coxcomb.

Umm, okay?.. :?

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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:04 pm

Hamelburg wrote:Did anyone else just wait until after Iowa to vote for Romney on the poll at the top of the page? :)


theres a poll?
whatever

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:35 pm

Farnhamia wrote:

That's called "job creation." Your mistake is understandable, seeing as how you're of the British persuasion.


Indeed. By firing people, he is making them entrepreneurs Copyrighted by RNC which makes them go out and create new businesses and make new jobs!
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:42 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That's called "job creation." Your mistake is understandable, seeing as how you're of the British persuasion.


Indeed. By firing people, he is making them entrepreneurs Copyrighted by RNC which makes them go out and create new businesses and make new jobs!

Exactly. See, what happened was, Dear Speaker Boehner and the New Model House of Republicans were all about jobs, jobs, jobs last year, but the evil Islamofascist Kenyan anti-colonialist, Barack Hussein Obama obstructed them by proposing legislation he knew would not create jobs, jobs, jobs and he also had the obstructionist almost-traitors in the Senate block anything the New Model House managed to pass anyway. Oh, the depth of that man's hatred for the United States is beyond belief.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:24 pm

Have any of you guys heard of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu9TNxKo ... _embedded#!

start around 2:35
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:31 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Have any of you guys heard of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu9TNxKo ... _embedded#!

start around 2:35

Would be more interesting if it included some sourcing instead of just accusations.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:39 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Have any of you guys heard of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu9TNxKo ... _embedded#!

start around 2:35

Would be more interesting if it included some sourcing instead of just accusations.


Not accusing asking if anyone had any information whatsoever so I wouldn't judge. It is from the Heal website so not unbiased in any sense.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:40 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Would be more interesting if it included some sourcing instead of just accusations.


Not accusing asking if anyone had any information whatsoever so I wouldn't judge. It is from the Heal website so not unbiased in any sense.

I was talking about the video, not your post.

EDIT: also, who are HEAL?
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:45 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:I was talking about the video, not your post.

EDIT: also, who are HEAL?


http://www.heal-online.org/

If you read the thread about the gay kids being forced to gay-conversion camp this is one of the groups that looks into it, among other things. It essentially tries to stop the abuse (as the see it) of people against primarily teens, but also animals.
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