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Who Will Win the Republican nomination?

Newt Gingrich
67
7%
Ron Paul
277
31%
Mitt Romney
469
52%
Rick Santorum
90
10%
 
Total votes : 903

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Postby New Conglomerate » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:31 pm

Aeronos wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:delusion.

they fixate on "legalize drugs" and "get out of afghanistan immediately" (and maybe "go on the gold standard") and ignore all the rest.

A better response would be "The only Republican who's not a fascist-with-a-new-name [bar Huntsman]" lol.

In a way it's fairly similar to Obama. We all thought "Finally, a Democrat who's non-partisan enough to make things better, whilst promising some key features for America that it could do with", but we forgot to look through the electioneering spin and realise he's just the usual top-down crony capitalist that composes the status quo.

Really? You're blaming OBAMA for being partisan? Wow... just wow...
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Postby Aeronos » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:33 pm

New Conglomerate wrote:
Aeronos wrote:A better response would be "The only Republican who's not a fascist-with-a-new-name [bar Huntsman]" lol.

In a way it's fairly similar to Obama. We all thought "Finally, a Democrat who's non-partisan enough to make things better, whilst promising some key features for America that it could do with", but we forgot to look through the electioneering spin and realise he's just the usual top-down crony capitalist that composes the status quo.

Really? You're blaming OBAMA for being partisan? Wow... just wow...

Dear, I think you just completely misread what I said ;)
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:33 pm

Aeronos wrote:
New Conglomerate wrote:Really? You're blaming OBAMA for being partisan? Wow... just wow...

Dear, I think you just completely misread what I said ;)

"Crony capitalist"? Been following Mitt closesly, have we? That's his latest slogan.

And it was funny, or would be if the hypocrisy didn't reek as much as it does, but the Republicans actually called on the President to "work with them" to create jobs in their response to his weekly radio address. :lol: "Work with us," meaning, of course, "Do as we say."
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Postby Aeronos » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:24 pm

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Aeronos wrote:Dear, I think you just completely misread what I said ;)

"Crony capitalist"? Been following Mitt closesly, have we? That's his latest slogan.

Good morning, America. Read my lips: no new taxes. The era of big government is over. After the Clinton Administration's nation-building, we must become a non-interventionalist power. Change.

When Mitt Romney accuses Obama of being a crony capitalist, what he's subconsciously saying is "I will be sure to make capitalism even more crony" :P
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:39 pm

Aeronos wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:"Crony capitalist"? Been following Mitt closesly, have we? That's his latest slogan.

Good morning, America. Read my lips: no new taxes. The era of big government is over. After the Clinton Administration's nation-building, we must become a non-interventionalist power. Change.

When Mitt Romney accuses Obama of being a crony capitalist, what he's subconsciously saying is "I will be sure to make capitalism even more crony" :P

Clinton's nation-building? Didn't you skip something in there?
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Postby Eleutheria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:41 pm

ron paul seems to always do very well on online polls, i really hope that translates into primary victories, ron paul agrees a lot with my laissez-faire stances
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:45 pm

Eleutheria wrote:ron paul seems to always do very well on online polls, i really hope that translates into primary victories, ron paul agrees a lot with my laissez-faire stances

So you value free market over civil rights? Good to know. Sad, but good to know.
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Postby Eleutheria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:49 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Eleutheria wrote:ron paul seems to always do very well on online polls, i really hope that translates into primary victories, ron paul agrees a lot with my laissez-faire stances

So you value free market over civil rights? Good to know. Sad, but good to know.

I think that both come hand in hand, its simply good business not to discriminate, and i think we should be judged as individuals, not on ethnic or religious grounds, and i believe dr paul best fits that description
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:16 pm

Eleutheria wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:So you value free market over civil rights? Good to know. Sad, but good to know.

I think that both come hand in hand, its simply good business not to discriminate, and i think we should be judged as individuals, not on ethnic or religious grounds, and i believe dr paul best fits that description

He's fine with states passing religious laws, and has voted in favor of at least one such law himself. In fact, he has twice introduced a bill that would make it so the federal government could not protect its citizens if states tried to pass religious laws.
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Postby Aeronos » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:42 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Aeronos wrote:Good morning, America. Read my lips: no new taxes. The era of big government is over. After the Clinton Administration's nation-building, we must become a non-interventionalist power. Change.

When Mitt Romney accuses Obama of being a crony capitalist, what he's subconsciously saying is "I will be sure to make capitalism even more crony" :P

Clinton's nation-building? Didn't you skip something in there?

Nono, they're all silly phrases and stances going in a line.

Reagan said the first, and then promptly shot up the national debt.
Bush Snr said the second, and then promptly rose taxes.
Clinton said the third, and then expanded the state.
Bush ran on the fourth (people forget he was elected on a non-interventionalist platform, opposing the Clinton Administration's actions in Bosnia and East Timor), before stepping up interventionalism to unprecedented levels.
Obama said the fifth, before changing very little.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:47 pm

Aeronos wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:delusion.

they fixate on "legalize drugs" and "get out of afghanistan immediately" (and maybe "go on the gold standard") and ignore all the rest.

A better response would be "The only Republican who's not a fascist-with-a-new-name [bar Huntsman]" lol.

In a way it's fairly similar to Obama. We all thought "Finally, a Democrat who's non-partisan enough to make things better, whilst promising some key features for America that it could do with", but we forgot to look through the electioneering spin and realise he's just the usual top-down crony capitalist that composes the status quo.

if thats what you thought you were indeed just as delusional.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:49 pm

Eleutheria wrote:ron paul seems to always do very well on online polls, i really hope that translates into primary victories, ron paul agrees a lot with my laissez-faire stances

it has little (zero) chance of translating into primary victories.
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Postby Technocratic States » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:51 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Eleutheria wrote:ron paul seems to always do very well on online polls, i really hope that translates into primary victories, ron paul agrees a lot with my laissez-faire stances

it has little (zero) chance of translating into primary victories.


Online success ≠ primary success

At the moment, Mitt Romney is doing quite well. I do not at all think that Ron Paul can win the primaries, as I predict a rapid decrease of support for him in the near future. All of these Republican candidates are radical, and if one of them must win elections, it ought to be Romney.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:58 pm

Technocratic States wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:it has little (zero) chance of translating into primary victories.


Online success ≠ primary success

At the moment, Mitt Romney is doing quite well. I do not at all think that Ron Paul can win the primaries, as I predict a rapid decrease of support for him in the near future. All of these Republican candidates are radical, and if one of them must win elections, it ought to be Romney.

i dont like romney but he is head and shoulders above the rest of them.
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Postby Technocratic States » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:11 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Technocratic States wrote:
Online success ≠ primary success

At the moment, Mitt Romney is doing quite well. I do not at all think that Ron Paul can win the primaries, as I predict a rapid decrease of support for him in the near future. All of these Republican candidates are radical, and if one of them must win elections, it ought to be Romney.

i dont like romney but he is head and shoulders above the rest of them.


I'm not saying I support Romney either, but he is the best of 7 evils.
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Postby Zeppy » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:11 pm

I like the Republican debates. It's negatively entertaining.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:33 pm

ron paul had 2 great speeches, one on war and one on racism.
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Postby Zeppy » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:38 pm

Ashmoria wrote:ron paul had 2 great speeches, one on war and one on racism.

santorum made a funny.

gingrich has yet to go on "IM GONNA KILL ROMNEY" mode.

and romney made a funny. both at ron paul's expense.
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Postby Augustus Este » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:45 pm

Oh boy, now they're to the part of the debate where the compete to see who is more homophobic.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:47 pm

Eleutheria wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:So you value free market over civil rights? Good to know. Sad, but good to know.

I think that both come hand in hand, its simply good business not to discriminate...


No, not really.

Doesn't bode well for whatever argument you're making if your most fundamental assumption is so flawed.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:47 pm

Augustus Este wrote:Oh boy, now they're to the part of the debate where the compete to see who is more homophobic.


but huntsman was close to OK. santorum is crapping out on telling his truth.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:51 pm

gingrich: "should the catholic church be forced to stop adoption services because they dont want to let gays adopt?"

YES
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Postby Augustus Este » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:51 pm

Newt Gingrich:

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Postby SpudEmpire » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:03 pm

The only one who has a clue about the reality of Afghanistan is Huntsman, I'm about to go for another tour and lemme tell ya it's not getting any better despite all the resources we throw into that sinkhole.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:08 pm

SpudEmpire wrote:The only one who has a clue about the reality of Afghanistan is Huntsman, I'm about to go for another tour and lemme tell ya it's not getting any better despite all the resources we throw into that sinkhole.


we need to get OUT. we cant change the afghan people into little americans.
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