Republican Primary Megathread (poll now updated)

[Severania]

Lol how is Paul winning? I am an American Conservative and I honestly think he is a babbling old man. He is smart, but doesnt make sense.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Where's the none of the above option?

[Desperate Measures]

McCain?

Lol no I dont believe so

These people all look alike.

[Farnhamia]

Newt Gingrich.

This should be part of the Megathread.

Well this one is more accurate, Herman Cain and Michelle Bachman have already dropped out

So what? The reason we have a Megathread is to keep NSG from filling up with "Republican Primary" threads every time someone gets an idea to start one.

[Maloys Empire of GORE]

Lol how is Paul winning? I am an American Conservative and I honestly think he is a babbling old man. He is smart, but doesnt make sense.

Most capable of beating Obama is what I said and he got the same amount of electorals as Romney did in Iowa


That said he has majority control of the indepedants, those who have that have victory. Republicans will vote republican no matter what, same applies to democrats, so, someone from one of these parties who wins the independants wins the election


check the polls on the percentage of people identified as indepedants in Iowa and who they supported

Obama appeals to indepedants, Romney looks alright to them, but also seems like your classic Republican, which is not what they want. Obama also has passed laws that will allow him to say "I just protected your liberty, life, and economy, what have these guys done?" So, classic is not the best idea

[Wikkiwallana]

A Paul administration would be no different from the Obama Administration

No, just, no.

[Severania]

Yes it would. Same foreign policy.

[Desperate Measures]

Yes it would. Same foreign policy.

what.

[Maloys Empire of GORE]

Yes it would. Same foreign policy.

No, Obamas is to manipulate other foreign powers into getting what we want and doing it without consulting congress, thus completely ignoring checks and balances


Ron Paul gives the power to congress and lets a WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE vote to decide whether to go to war or not, instead of one single individual.

[Absurdity]

Lol how is Paul winning? I am an American Conservative and I honestly think he is a babbling old man. He is smart, but doesnt make sense.

Most of Paul's supporters are the young and politically ignorant.

They couldn't possibly realise how badly the country would suffer under his leadership.

No point in having a poll because of this very reason.

[Maloys Empire of GORE]

Lol how is Paul winning? I am an American Conservative and I honestly think he is a babbling old man. He is smart, but doesnt make sense.

Most of Paul's supporters are the young and politically ignorant.

They couldn't possibly realise how badly the country would suffer under his leadership.

No point in having a poll because of this very reason.

Most people who research him tend to like him.

Most younger people like him because he will deliver on what he promises.


I like him because he still has respect for freedom unlike many of our other candidates. if you want me to be a bit more specific

Patriot Act, indefinite detention act, SOPA

[Wikkiwallana]

Yes it would. Same foreign policy.

what.

I'm going to second that, and add "Seriously. WHAT. THE. HELL?!"

[Wikkiwallana]

Yes it would. Same foreign policy.

No, Obamas is to manipulate other foreign powers into getting what we want and doing it without consulting congress, thus completely ignoring checks and balances

That's a bald faced lie right there.

Ron Paul gives the power to congress and lets a WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE vote to decide whether to go to war or not, instead of one single individual.

How does he do that? He's already a Congressman himself, he has no way to take power away from Congress on his own.

[Farnhamia]

Lol how is Paul winning? I am an American Conservative and I honestly think he is a babbling old man. He is smart, but doesnt make sense.

Most capable of beating Obama is what I said and he got the same amount of electorals as Romney did in Iowa


That said he has majority control of the indepedants, those who have that have victory. Republicans will vote republican no matter what, same applies to democrats, so, someone from one of these parties who wins the independants wins the election


check the polls on the percentage of people identified as indepedants in Iowa and who they supported

Obama appeals to indepedants, Romney looks alright to them, but also seems like your classic Republican, which is not what they want. Obama also has passed laws that will allow him to say "I just protected your liberty, life, and economy, what have these guys done?" So, classic is not the best idea

Ron Paul got no "electorals" (delegates) in Iowa. He trailed Romney and Santorum by about 4%, I believe. In order to be allocated delegates, you have to have a majority in one of the Iowa congressional districts. Ron Paul did not achieve such a majority.

Independent voters will run from Ron Paul as fast as they can once they find out about his vision for America, which includes opposition to the 14th Amendment, opposition to the Civil Rights acts of the 1960s, and fiscal policies fit to destroy the US economy. And then there's the We The People Act.

[Farnhamia]

Most of Paul's supporters are the young and politically ignorant.

They couldn't possibly realise how badly the country would suffer under his leadership.

No point in having a poll because of this very reason.

Most people who research him tend to like him.

Most younger people like him because he will deliver on what he promises.


I like him because he still has respect for freedom unlike many of our other candidates. if you want me to be a bit more specific

Patriot Act, indefinite detention act, SOPA

SOPA isn't law, the "indefinite detention act" was a affirmation of existing powers, and ... okay, I'll grant you that I would have liked modification of the PATRIOT Act.

[The Bronies of Erath]

why do people like ron paul so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Maloys Empire of GORE]

No, Obamas is to manipulate other foreign powers into getting what we want and doing it without consulting congress, thus completely ignoring checks and balances

That's a bald faced lie right there.

Ron Paul gives the power to congress and lets a WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE vote to decide whether to go to war or not, instead of one single individual.

How does he do that? He's already a Congressman himself, he has no way to take power away from Congress on his own.

Apologies, he intends to do that I mean.


They even talk about Obamas plans in the media, he plays other countries sensitive political situations in a way where they will see it more beneficial to help him. He has militarily intervened without congress approval already. Just wasn't a massive invasion or anything like Iraq or Afghanistan

[Wikkiwallana]

why do people like ron paul so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He apparently has charisma. That or mind control powers.

[Farnhamia]

That's a bald faced lie right there.



How does he do that? He's already a Congressman himself, he has no way to take power away from Congress on his own.

Apologies, he intends to do that I mean.


They even talk about Obamas plans in the media, he plays other countries sensitive political situations in a way where they will see it more beneficial to help him. He has militarily intervened without congress approval already. Just wasn't a massive invasion or anything like Iraq or Afghanistan

He doesn't have to ask Congress for approval right away. And we're not operating in Libya anymore, so what's the big deal? And where were you during the Afghan and Iraq wars, were you protesting Bush's actions? Hmm?

[Wikkiwallana]

That's a bald faced lie right there.



How does he do that? He's already a Congressman himself, he has no way to take power away from Congress on his own.

Apologies, he intends to do that I mean.


They even talk about Obamas plans in the media,

Who does? What do they say? Be more specific.

he plays other countries sensitive political situations in a way where they will see it more beneficial to help him.

For example?

He has militarily intervened without congress approval already. Just wasn't a massive invasion or anything like Iraq or Afghanistan

No, he followed through on a treaty obligation, Congresses opinion on the issue literally didn't matter because we were legally obliged to do what he did.

[Jmater]

Hello I am new

[Maloys Empire of GORE]

Most capable of beating Obama is what I said and he got the same amount of electorals as Romney did in Iowa


That said he has majority control of the indepedants, those who have that have victory. Republicans will vote republican no matter what, same applies to democrats, so, someone from one of these parties who wins the independants wins the election


check the polls on the percentage of people identified as indepedants in Iowa and who they supported

Obama appeals to indepedants, Romney looks alright to them, but also seems like your classic Republican, which is not what they want. Obama also has passed laws that will allow him to say "I just protected your liberty, life, and economy, what have these guys done?" So, classic is not the best idea

Ron Paul got no "electorals" (delegates) in Iowa. He trailed Romney and Santorum by about 4%, I believe. In order to be allocated delegates, you have to have a majority in one of the Iowa congressional districts. Ron Paul did not achieve such a majority.

Independent voters will run from Ron Paul as fast as they can once they find out about his vision for America, which includes opposition to the 14th Amendment, opposition to the Civil Rights acts of the 1960s, and fiscal policies fit to destroy the US economy. And then there's the We The People Act.

they won't find out, precious few people actually learn much of whats going on during the elections.

I have no clue where you were told those things, but they blatantly oppose his actual views, to the point where it more amuses then annoys me. the economy will actually be FIXED, the actual issue economically speaking though is, he is willingly to sacrifice all these things the government spends money on like social security. The economy WILL be fixed if hes in, but it depends if you think its too high of a price or not.

That link did not really provide any solid proof, and those views conflict with Libertarian ideals, which Ron Paul is a closet libertarian

[Wikkiwallana]

Ron Paul got no "electorals" (delegates) in Iowa. He trailed Romney and Santorum by about 4%, I believe. In order to be allocated delegates, you have to have a majority in one of the Iowa congressional districts. Ron Paul did not achieve such a majority.

Independent voters will run from Ron Paul as fast as they can once they find out about his vision for America, which includes opposition to the 14th Amendment, opposition to the Civil Rights acts of the 1960s, and fiscal policies fit to destroy the US economy. And then there's the We The People Act.

they won't find out, precious few people actually learn much of whats going on during the elections.

I have no clue where you were told those things, but they blatantly oppose his actual views, to the point where it more amuses then annoys me. the economy will actually be FIXED, the actual issue economically speaking though is, he is willingly to sacrifice all these things the government spends money on like social security. The economy WILL be fixed if hes in, but it depends if you think its too high of a price or not.

That link did not really provide any solid proof, and those views conflict with Libertarian ideals, which Ron Paul is a closet libertarian

Ok, you want solid proof? http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:H.R.539: Read it yourself. It's a despicable attack on our freedoms.

[Wikkiwallana]

Hello I am new

Introduction thread is thataway.

[Farnhamia]

Ron Paul got no "electorals" (delegates) in Iowa. He trailed Romney and Santorum by about 4%, I believe. In order to be allocated delegates, you have to have a majority in one of the Iowa congressional districts. Ron Paul did not achieve such a majority.

Independent voters will run from Ron Paul as fast as they can once they find out about his vision for America, which includes opposition to the 14th Amendment, opposition to the Civil Rights acts of the 1960s, and fiscal policies fit to destroy the US economy. And then there's the We The People Act.

they won't find out, precious few people actually learn much of whats going on during the elections.

I have no clue where you were told those things, but they blatantly oppose his actual views, to the point where it more amuses then annoys me. the economy will actually be FIXED, the actual issue economically speaking though is, he is willingly to sacrifice all these things the government spends money on like social security. The economy WILL be fixed if hes in, but it depends if you think its too high of a price or not.

That link did not really provide any solid proof, and those views conflict with Libertarian ideals, which Ron Paul is a closet libertarian

No solid proof? You didn't read it or look under the spoilers, did you? Well, here:

as to many of my points: http://www.ontheissues.org/ron_paul.htm

Re opposition to separation of Church and State: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.1547:; http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congr ... 61302.htm; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul85.html; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul120.html; http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option= ... Itemid=69;

Re opposition to Fourteenth Amendment & racist legislation: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.J.RES.46:; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.3863:; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.5842:; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d098:h.r.4982:; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul314.html; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul346.html; http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=69

Re gutting the Bill of Rights: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... .r.00300:; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... .r.04379:; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... .r.05739:; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.3893:; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul160.html; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul197.html; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul270.html;

Re lying hypocrit who voted for law he said was unconstitutional: http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congr ... 60403.htm; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul98.html

Re opposition to civil rights, including Civil Rights Act of 1964: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul385.html; http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option= ... Itemid=69;

Re discrimination against homosexuals and same-sex couples: http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2004/pr072204.htm; http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congr ... 72204.htm; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul120.html; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul160.html; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul197.html

Re racist publications: http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/ang ... 2a7da84ca;
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/ron ... ewsletter;
http://reason.com/archives/2008/01/16/w ... newsletter

Re supports federal laws against abortion: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... .r.02597:; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.1094:; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... .r.00776:; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d097:h.r.392:; http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul84.html