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Who Will Win the Republican nomination?

Newt Gingrich
67
7%
Ron Paul
277
31%
Mitt Romney
469
52%
Rick Santorum
90
10%
 
Total votes : 903

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:29 pm

New Conglomerate wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Wait until October when he's fighting for his (political) life.

I think he just said that you don't understand governance if you're a constitutional law professor.

And he made a community organizer joke.

EDIT: And he's basically lying constantly throughout his whole speech. Yeah, Mitt, that's not going to backfire eventually. /sarcasm

He was governor for what? One whole term?
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:35 pm

New Conglomerate wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Wait until October when he's fighting for his (political) life.

I think he just said that you don't understand governance if you're a constitutional law professor.

And he made a community organizer joke.

EDIT: And he's basically lying constantly throughout his whole speech. Yeah, Mitt, that's not going to backfire eventually. /sarcasm


They can hang the Planned Parenthood flipflop over his head amongst other things.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:41 pm

Gauthier wrote:
New Conglomerate wrote:I think he just said that you don't understand governance if you're a constitutional law professor.

And he made a community organizer joke.

EDIT: And he's basically lying constantly throughout his whole speech. Yeah, Mitt, that's not going to backfire eventually. /sarcasm


They can hang the Planned Parenthood flipflop over his head amongst other things.

That and his whispered condemnation of Rush, and for having invented the Obama health care reform. "If it was okay for Massachusetts then, Governor, why isn't it okay for the rest of the country now?"
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:46 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
They can hang the Planned Parenthood flipflop over his head amongst other things.

That and his whispered condemnation of Rush, and for having invented the Obama health care reform. "If it was okay for Massachusetts then, Governor, why isn't it okay for the rest of the country now?"


His canned response, and he's already used it, is "Well, I don't think this is an issue that the federal government ought to handle." I think, since then, Romney has shoved his image so far to the right that this will cripple him, so expect more flipflopping, maybe a claim of having his hands tied by the legislature.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:54 pm

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Grave_n_idle wrote:Yay! Fake outrage!

http://news.yahoo.com/gingrich-says-nir ... -news.html

It's impossible that Gingrich is really so stupid he doesn't 'get it', so I guess he's just being a twat.

Those last five words sum up his post-Speaker career, including this campaign, quite well.

What do you mean post-Speaker career? :eyebrow:
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:22 pm

I'm happy to see Romney win.

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:26 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:I'm happy to see Romney win.


I'm mildly annoyed to see Romney win, knowing those conservative pasty-wasty jagoffs that are my fellow pro-statehood Puerto Ricans are the ones who gave him the votes he pathetically and desperately pandered out of them.
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Postby Bantonga » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:32 pm

Any way this election goes, I know I'll be very entertained:
1) Romney wins and we watch the horrible attempts to connect to average voters, or reveals he was secretly a democrat the whole time
2) Santorum wins and America is reverted to the 16th century, plus embarks on crusades to find the holy grail.
3) Gingrich wins and America gets a moon base/51st state, not to mention the introduction of state-endorsed polygamy
4) Ron Paul wins, 99% of government is abolished...profit?
So sit back and grab some popcorn...cause this will be one hell of a show!

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Postby Forsher » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:47 pm

Bantonga wrote:Any way this election goes, I know I'll be very entertained:
1) Romney wins and we watch the horrible attempts to connect to average voters, or reveals he was secretly a democrat the whole time
2) Santorum wins and America is reverted to the 16th century, plus embarks on crusades to find the holy grail.
3) Gingrich wins and America gets a moon base/51st state, not to mention the introduction of state-endorsed polygamy
4) Ron Paul wins, 99% of government is abolished...profit?
So sit back and grab some popcorn...cause this will be one hell of a show!


This assumes Obama provides an easily leapt hurdle.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:48 pm

Forsher wrote:
Bantonga wrote:Any way this election goes, I know I'll be very entertained:
1) Romney wins and we watch the horrible attempts to connect to average voters, or reveals he was secretly a democrat the whole time
2) Santorum wins and America is reverted to the 16th century, plus embarks on crusades to find the holy grail.
3) Gingrich wins and America gets a moon base/51st state, not to mention the introduction of state-endorsed polygamy
4) Ron Paul wins, 99% of government is abolished...profit?
So sit back and grab some popcorn...cause this will be one hell of a show!


This assumes Obama provides an easily leapt hurdle.


Seriously, did everyone forget we even had a president?

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Postby Kaeshar » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:52 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Forsher wrote:
This assumes Obama provides an easily leapt hurdle.


Seriously, did everyone forget we even had a president?


That's just assuming one of the republicans wins the general election. At this point, really only Romney and Santorum have a chance, but Santorums gaffes and lack of organization is costing him.

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Postby Forsher » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:58 pm

Kaeshar wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Seriously, did everyone forget we even had a president?


That's just assuming one of the republicans wins the general election. At this point, really only Romney and Santorum have a chance, but Santorums gaffes and lack of organization is costing him.


Don't be ridiculous it appeals to your average voter. He's an idiot, I'm an idiot = connection. Santorum 2012! (Assuming you take a Churchill-esque view on such matters.)
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Stop making shit up, though. Links, or it's a God-damn lie and you know it.

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Postby Kaeshar » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:01 pm

Forsher wrote:
Kaeshar wrote:
That's just assuming one of the republicans wins the general election. At this point, really only Romney and Santorum have a chance, but Santorums gaffes and lack of organization is costing him.


Don't be ridiculous it appeals to your average voter. He's an idiot, I'm an idiot = connection. Santorum 2012! (Assuming you take a Churchill-esque view on such matters.)


Uh what? I was talking about delegate wise for the primary.

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Postby Forsher » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:10 pm

Kaeshar wrote:
Forsher wrote:
Don't be ridiculous it appeals to your average voter. He's an idiot, I'm an idiot = connection. Santorum 2012! (Assuming you take a Churchill-esque view on such matters.)


Uh what? I was talking about delegate wise for the primary.


Sorry, I don't completely understand the US system: it's bad for my mental health.

Anyway, as long as voting is involved I'm sure my comment applies to a degree.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:06 pm

Bantonga wrote:Any way this election goes, I know I'll be very entertained:
1) Romney wins and we watch the horrible attempts to connect to average voters, or reveals he was secretly a democrat the whole time


I loved his attempt to wear blue jeans. The man looked like he felt he was naked.

2) Santorum wins and America is reverted to the 16th century, plus embarks on crusades to find the holy grail.

But I don't want to live in Jamestown. Well then again they wouldn't have followed his views.

3) Gingrich wins and America gets a moon base/51st state, not to mention the introduction of state-endorsed polygamy


A giant leap for Mankind... It's more like a stumble in the dark.

4) Ron Paul wins, 99% of government is abolished...profit?


Nah he would be too busy fondling his gold and muttering something about precious.

So sit back and grab some popcorn...cause this will be one hell of a show!


Nahh this election they will probably whimper.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:35 pm

Well Rice has said no.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/thi ... _blog.html

Kind of suggests the Repubs are a lost cause for 2012.
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Postby Kaeshar » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:37 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Well Rice has said no.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/thi ... _blog.html

Kind of suggests the Repubs are a lost cause for 2012.


I think she has said before in a CNN interview that she doesn't want to go back into politics. So, not a big surprise there.

The VP ticket is all speculation at this point, and they are already a lost cause even without Rice rejecting the VP spot.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:40 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Well Rice has said no.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/thi ... _blog.html

Kind of suggests the Repubs are a lost cause for 2012.

No one they want to run will run, and the ones who run are not the ones they want...

This was...hell, still is, a potential win for them, why doesn't anyone worth a damn in their party want any part of it? Are they all just waiting out the Tea Party?
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Postby Forsher » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:42 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Well Rice has said no.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/thi ... _blog.html

Kind of suggests the Repubs are a lost cause for 2012.

No one they want to run will run, and the ones who run are not the ones they want...

This was...hell, still is, a potential win for them, why doesn't anyone worth a damn in their party want any part of it? Are they all just waiting out the Tea Party?


I would say so. Then again if they are this could have the opposite effect.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:43 pm

Kaeshar wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Well Rice has said no.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/thi ... _blog.html

Kind of suggests the Repubs are a lost cause for 2012.


I think she has said before in a CNN interview that she doesn't want to go back into politics. So, not a big surprise there.

The VP ticket is all speculation at this point, and they are already a lost cause even without Rice rejecting the VP spot.


Indeed. The VP rumors are just that. Who could you pick especially if Mr. Opus Dei wins?

Don't care for her anyway. When she was at Stanford she was to put it nicely; annoying.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:45 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Well Rice has said no.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/thi ... _blog.html

Kind of suggests the Repubs are a lost cause for 2012.

No one they want to run will run, and the ones who run are not the ones they want...

This was...hell, still is, a potential win for them, why doesn't anyone worth a damn in their party want any part of it? Are they all just waiting out the Tea Party?


Tea party might be done. I thought I heard somewhere Scott Brown is being challenged......
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Nada » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:29 pm

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:03 am

Nada wrote:There is a rising interest in libertarianism that has caused a significant rift in the Republican party. Libertarians are extremely unlikely to vote for anyone other than Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, while I find that most of the progressives, greens, and "anarchists" I talk to are much more willing to compromise with "the lesser of two evils".


Funny thing that. Actually want to work to an acceptable agreement between differing philosophies.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:09 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nada wrote:There is a rising interest in libertarianism that has caused a significant rift in the Republican party. Libertarians are extremely unlikely to vote for anyone other than Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, while I find that most of the progressives, greens, and "anarchists" I talk to are much more willing to compromise with "the lesser of two evils".


Funny thing that. Actually want to work to an acceptable agreement between differing philosophies.

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Postby Zephie » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:10 am

There's been so much fraud concerning the Republican primaries and Caucuses, both on the grounds and on the television, I have no faith any results are legitimate. Everything from missing ballot boxes to ending a Caucus early to prevent a certain candidate from winning, or nearly winning. Any voting machine that is electronic should be assumed illegitimate, anyway.

Would be nice for a good candidate to run for president who isn't under the Republican or Democratic ticket, however rules and regulations make that near impossible. It's all about exposure, and those two parties own all of it.
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