British Republicanism

[Forster Keys]

Finish the reform of the House of Lords but I couldn't give a damn about the monarchy really. So long as it has now power over a freely elected government don't care whether it stays or goes. I'm Australian btw.

[Milks Empire]

Britain has a state religion, the Church of England. "Defender of the Faith" refers, specifically, to the Anglican Faith. Not all religions.

Umm... Yeah, no. It's actually more complicated than that.
The Church of England is established in England ONLY.
The Church of Scotland is the national church in Scotland but is not established.
The Church of England was the state church in Wales until disestablishment in 1920.
The Church of Ireland was disestablished for all of Ireland in 1871.

[Kirrig]

Swedish supporter of Monarchy, they don´t happen to do much other than being a nice represant abroad and symbol of our history. Thats enough for me. Besides if the monarch don´t act much (like in britain) then why bother with republicanism? Its not a huge cost to keep them.

I'm personally opposed to the idea that they're ruling over me because, to paraphrase Terry Prachett, their ancestors were bigger murdering bastards than mine were.

In truth that's probably because they accidentally went too far in trying to deal with other rmurdering bastards (size not yet known).

[Tagmatium]

I'm personally opposed to the idea that they're ruling over me because, to paraphrase Terry Prachett, their ancestors were bigger murdering bastards than mine were.

So, why are they ruling over you?

Because I was born in a nation that has a monarchy?

[Kirrig]

So, why are they ruling over you?

Because I was born in a nation that has a monarchy?

Or perhaps because being a big murdering bastard is no longer a good thing.

[Alyakia]

So, why are they ruling over you?

Because I was born in a nation that has a monarchy?

And how did the nation become a monarchy/why is that family holding that position?

[Kirrig]

Because I was born in a nation that has a monarchy?

And how did the nation become a monarchy/why is that family holding that position?

Human greed and the pursuit for power. Also because being a monarchy had major advantages in that it was stable, functional and easy to understand.

[Tagmatium]

Because I was born in a nation that has a monarchy?

And how did the nation become a monarchy/why is that family holding that position?

Not sure what you're asking from me here.

I was being spurious, over-simplifying my reasons for being against the monarchy.

[Kirrig]

And how did the nation become a monarchy/why is that family holding that position?

Not sure what you're asking from me here.

I was being spurious, over-simplifying my reasons for being against the monarchy.

Care to elaborate on said details.

I really mean reasons.

[Tagmatium]

Care to elaborate on said details.

I really mean reasons.

Not especially, to be honest.

[Kirrig]

Care to elaborate on said details.

I really mean reasons.

Not especially, to be honest.

Fair enough. Care to explain why?

My little joke.

[Tagmatium]

My little joke.

You monster.

[Adaptus]

Not sure if this has been posted, but, for those who want a real in depth look into what true British Republicanism is today, and what it really means for Britain, should we ever become a Republic. Take a look at this link.

http://www.republicanparty.org.uk/index.html

True Republicanism in Britain would mean the dissolution of the Monarchy, dissolution of all state supported religions. Complete separation of state and religion. A complete separations of powers. The dismantlement of Parliament, and the House of Lords. And basically a whole re-building of our current system.

Otherwise, you face the same fate as the Cromwellian Republic.

[Conserative Morality]

Not sure if this has been posted, but, for those who want a real in depth look into what true British Republicanism is today, and what it really means for Britain, should we ever become a Republic. Take a look at this link.

http://www.republicanparty.org.uk/index.html

True Republicanism in Britain would mean the dissolution of the Monarchy, dissolution of all state supported religions. Complete separation of state and religion. A complete separations of powers. The dismantlement of Parliament, and the House of Lords. And basically a whole re-building of our current system.

Otherwise, you face the same fate as the Cromwellian Republic.

How is that a bad thing?

[Alyakia]

Not sure if this has been posted, but, for those who want a real in depth look into what true British Republicanism is today, and what it really means for Britain, should we ever become a Republic. Take a look at this link.

http://www.republicanparty.org.uk/index.html

True Republicanism in Britain would mean the dissolution of the Monarchy, dissolution of all state supported religions. Complete separation of state and religion. A complete separations of powers. The dismantlement of Parliament, and the House of Lords. And basically a whole re-building of our current system.

Otherwise, you face the same fate as the Cromwellian Republic.

How is that a bad thing?

What?

[Adaptus]

Not sure if this has been posted, but, for those who want a real in depth look into what true British Republicanism is today, and what it really means for Britain, should we ever become a Republic. Take a look at this link.

http://www.republicanparty.org.uk/index.html

True Republicanism in Britain would mean the dissolution of the Monarchy, dissolution of all state supported religions. Complete separation of state and religion. A complete separations of powers. The dismantlement of Parliament, and the House of Lords. And basically a whole re-building of our current system.

Otherwise, you face the same fate as the Cromwellian Republic.

How is that a bad thing?

I never said any of it was a bad thing...

[Conserative Morality]

I never said any of it was a bad thing...

My apologies, I misread you.

Tone is so hard to judge in the written word.

[Alyakia]

How is that a bad thing?

What?

What?

[Korean universe]

You mean an even more idiotic cockney englishman?

[Milks Empire]

You mean an even more idiotic cockney englishman?

Because that wasn't an incredibly douchey thing to say. Nope. No sir. Not in the slightest.

[Adaptus]

I never said any of it was a bad thing...

My apologies, I misread you.

Tone is so hard to judge in the written word.

I understand.

I'm a huge Republican. In fact, I think the only way to save this country from the horrible direction it could go in, is to become a Republic. Tradition is killing this country when you think about it.

[Alyakia]

My apologies, I misread you.

Tone is so hard to judge in the written word.

I understand.

I'm a huge Republican. In fact, I think the only way to save this country from the horrible direction it could go in, is to become a Republic. Tradition is killing this country when you think about it.

Please, tell us more.

[Adaptus]

Please, tell us more.

Look at parliament. Dominated by three parties which are to far disconnected from the people to even discuss any form of progress. Tradition dictates to us, that only the Tories, Labour or Lib Dems can effectively represent us. That's not exactly democratic to me.

Considering most ministerial candidates are picked far in advance, that doesn't seem very meritocratic to me either. But that's tradition.

[Alyakia]

Please, tell us more.

Look at parliament. Dominated by three parties which are to far disconnected from the people to even discuss any form of progress. Tradition dictates to us, that only the Tories, Labour or Lib Dems can effectively represent us. That's not exactly democratic to me.

Considering most ministerial candidates are picked far in advance, that doesn't seem very meritocratic to me either. But that's tradition.

How old is this tradition? Labour only became popular in the 20th century, Lib Dems are from 1988 and the whole devolution thing at current has retuned a comparitively ridiculously popular party. It's obviously broken but it's probably not going to be fixed by destroying everything and most likely replacing it with some American bullshit that drags it down to two-parties instead of two-and-a-third.

[Chinese Regions]

I think the monarchy is a good tradition and a source of national unity (like George VI)

Granted I know next to nothing about Britain's politics or society, so my opinion is moot.

This. Plus The United Republic of England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland doesn't sound anywhere as magical as the United Kingdom.

I think this video sums it up quite nicely. http://youtu.be/bhyYgnhhKFw

Just call it Great Britain, Bosnia and Herzegovina don't have a real name, it is just called "Bosnia and Herzegovina"