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Did Aliens visit Ancient Civilizations?

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Do you believe that extraterrestrials visited ancient civilizations?

Yes
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No
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Unsure
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The Korean Confederation (Ancient)
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Did Aliens visit Ancient Civilizations?

Postby The Korean Confederation (Ancient) » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:39 pm

I was watching Ancient Aliens on the so called "History" channel today, and I'm wondering, do you believe that extraterrestrials visited and possibly even influenced the ancient civilizations of the Egyptians, Maya, Nazca, etc? Explain your reasoning.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:41 pm

The Korean Confederation wrote:I was watching Ancient Aliens on the so called "History" channel today, and I'm wondering, do you believe that extraterrestrials visited and possibly even influenced the ancient civilizations of the Egyptians, Maya, Nazca, etc? Explain your reasoning.

No. And don't insult ancient people by saying they couldn't build what they built without help. No.
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Postby Free Georgizm » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:42 pm

Yeah it actually happened a couple of times.

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Postby Yootwopia » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:42 pm

Nobody knows, and nobody ever will know. It does seem implausible, though.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:45 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Korean Confederation wrote:I was watching Ancient Aliens on the so called "History" channel today, and I'm wondering, do you believe that extraterrestrials visited and possibly even influenced the ancient civilizations of the Egyptians, Maya, Nazca, etc? Explain your reasoning.

No. And don't insult ancient people by saying they couldn't build what they built without help. No.


Well, the Egyptians actually had help. From the Jews *nods*

:p
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:46 pm

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Though seriously, there's absolutely no reason to think so. It could have happened, in much the same way that Aristotle could have secretly been a kangaroo.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:47 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:No. And don't insult ancient people by saying they couldn't build what they built without help. No.


Well, the Egyptians actually had help. From the Jews *nods*

:p

They had financing, maybe. Have you ever seen Jewish construction worker?
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:49 pm

There's a South Park episode about this.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:50 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Well, the Egyptians actually had help. From the Jews *nods*

:p

They had financing, maybe. Have you ever seen Jewish construction worker?


Yes, who else is building settlements in/on the West Bank? (figures though that they have to call the area a 'bank' :rofl: )
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Postby Immoren » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:50 pm

Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
I don't think we have unveiled any evidence to point that ETs helped ancient civilizations.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:50 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:They had financing, maybe. Have you ever seen Jewish construction worker?


Yes, who else is building settlements in/on the West Bank? (figures though that they have to call the area a 'bank' :rofl: )

They have ancient alien technology and/or slaves, naturally.
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Postby Marshmellowstan » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:52 pm

Ancient alien theroists/nuts are the people creationists and scientists can agree to hate. The show is just more proof that freedom of speech isn't all that good.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:53 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:They had financing, maybe. Have you ever seen Jewish construction worker?


Yes, who else is building settlements in/on the West Bank? (figures though that they have to call the area a 'bank' :rofl: )

Those a re mostly Eastern European Jews, not the same kind as underwrote the Pyramids.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:54 pm

Marshmellowstan wrote:Ancient alien theroists/nuts are the people creationists and scientists can agree to hate. The show is just more proof that freedom of speech isn't all that good.

On the contrary. This is an example of yet another advantage to free speech. People will say stupid things and we can laugh at them.
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Postby Ovisterra » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:55 pm

*Sigh*

At this point I'm literally copying and pasting reasons why aliens likely haven't visited and likely won't visit.

It's basically not gonna happen. The nearest star to us is 4.2 light years away. That means it would take the fastest human spacecraft in history approximately 450 years to reach it . Remember, that's the closest star. Now, there are about 200 billion stars in the galaxy. Less then ten percent have even a small chance of providing life (according to one report. Opinions differ but rarely go above about ten percent). If one or more have life, we're assuming many things:

-They're close. Very close. See numbers above and realise why
-They're advanced. Just because a planet has life doesn't mean that life is bigger than single cell yokeys. For them to even have a chance at finding us, assuming all of these bulletin points apply, they'd have to be evolved enough to even be physically able to make spaceships, sentient, and around a long time to get to the interstellar travel stage. Even if every one of those 20 billion star systems contained life, a tiny, tiny portion would be sentient, let alone space faring.
-They're looking for us
-Even if they are looking for us, remember the 200,000,000 solar system statistic. The chances of them finding us are tiny, even if they only search the less than 10% that might contain life.
-They care about finding life. As you can see from what I've been saying, it's a lot of effort. Also, if you're at the interstellar stage, finding tiny underdeveloped species might not interest you.
-They left their planet to search for us millions of years ago

That's a lot to assume.
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Postby Pendragonia » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:56 pm

It has always struck me that if Aliens build the Nazca Lines, the Bimini Stones and the Gaza Pyramids, we'd have more evidence to support those claims. As it stands, the evidence is very phantasmal.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:56 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Yes, who else is building settlements in/on the West Bank? (figures though that they have to call the area a 'bank' :rofl: )

Those a re mostly Eastern European Jews, not the same kind as underwrote the Pyramids.


Yet back in the Egyptian pyramid time Jews were not well-known (yet) for financing afaik. The whole jews being in financing was actually because they could get no other employment in medieval Europe.

Anyway, my point stands: The egyptians had help -> slaves(which were not necessarily egyptian).
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Postby Immoren » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:56 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Marshmellowstan wrote:Ancient alien theroists/nuts are the people creationists and scientists can agree to hate. The show is just more proof that freedom of speech isn't all that good.

On the contrary. This is an example of yet another advantage to free speech. People will say stupid things and we can laugh at them.


I agree to this.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:56 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Marshmellowstan wrote:Ancient alien theroists/nuts are the people creationists and scientists can agree to hate. The show is just more proof that freedom of speech isn't all that good.

On the contrary. This is an example of yet another advantage to free speech. People will say stupid things and we can laugh at them.

And we can identify them, so that when our daughters say they want to marry them, we can lock them up in convents. Our daughters, I mean, no the ancient astronuts.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:58 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:On the contrary. This is an example of yet another advantage to free speech. People will say stupid things and we can laugh at them.

And we can identify them, so that when our daughters say they want to marry them, we can lock them up in convents. Our daughters, I mean, no the ancient astronuts.


*picks lock*
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:59 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:And we can identify them, so that when our daughters say they want to marry them, we can lock them up in convents. Our daughters, I mean, no the ancient astronuts.


*picks lock*

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:00 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:On the contrary. This is an example of yet another advantage to free speech. People will say stupid things and we can laugh at them.

And we can identify them, so that when our daughters say they want to marry them, we can lock them up in convents. Our daughters, I mean, no the ancient astronuts.

Unless our daughters are ancient astronauts.
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Postby Gladia » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:00 pm

There's no evidence that the Aliens did visit Ancient Civilization, but there's no evidence that the Aliens didn't visit Ancient Civilizations.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:02 pm

Yes.

Many people foreign to ancient civilizations visited them, and they were, in fact, foreign to each other and to us today.
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Postby Bulgislavia » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:03 pm

whether aliens visited and influenced Ancient civilizations and planet Earth is just some nature reserve planet that some intergalactic organization/community has been observing and influencing for thousands of years is a very very entertaining and interesting concept.

People can hate and ridicule on it all they like but these people really think outside the square and I like that. Also I think its good for free speech because it can get people thinking about concepts, ideas and theories that otherwise would not be able to exist without free speech.

Personally I think its a possibility

Also what if Earth is already one of "Their" planets and they are just looking after it until we reach a point where we can be integrated into their community.

Or what if long ago they created a planetary transportation network in the form of something like Star gates so Aliens could more easily travel between their planets and ours
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