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Do you Like SOPA?

Yes
6
5%
No
119
95%
 
Total votes : 125

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Erinkita
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Founded: Sep 15, 2011
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Postby Erinkita » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:26 am

Ourfgenstan wrote:I voted yes just to piss people off, but in all seriousness I doubt a single human being supports SOPA, yes, politicians aren't humans.

It doesn't piss people off if you tell them that's why you did it.
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Ourfgenstan (Ancient)
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Postby Ourfgenstan (Ancient) » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:34 am

Erinkita wrote:
Ourfgenstan wrote:I voted yes just to piss people off, but in all seriousness I doubt a single human being supports SOPA, yes, politicians aren't humans.

It doesn't piss people off if you tell them that's why you did it.


Not everyone will read my post, they will just see a few people support SOPA and flip.

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Tim-Opolis
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:37 pm

Already complained to my Reps.

SOPA is Fucking Stupid. So much for Land of the Free
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:56 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
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Marxist or a European.

Either one.


No.
The bill, as said rightly supports commercial interests, not political or public interests.
China does have extensive internet censorship , but simply to prevent the kind of problems that so-called social networks were able to stir elsewhere, and to prevent leaks of sensitive information.


Hence European.

Where fascism in practice originated and continues.
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Sunny Marionette
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Postby Sunny Marionette » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:03 pm

Well, that's...quite the poll.
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Condunum
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Postby Condunum » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:04 pm

Where is the no opinion option?
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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:09 pm

Condunum wrote:Where is the no opinion option?

You aren't allowed to have no opinion.
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Robert Magoo
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Postby Robert Magoo » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:10 pm

SOPA is oppressive and I really hope it fails. I'm not really sure it's even constitutional, but most people in congress don't seem to really care one bit about whether a bill is constitutional or not.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:10 pm

Activision is a major sponsor of the SOPA bill.

The makers of one of the gaming industries top selling series.
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Auremena
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Postby Auremena » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:10 pm

The US government can't regulate the internet, it's an international structure.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:11 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:Activision is a major sponsor of the SOPA bill.

The makers of one of the gaming industries top selling series.

Yes, and?
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:11 pm

Auremena wrote:The US government can't regulate the internet, it's an international structure.

Oh, my dear, you have no idea.
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And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:11 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:Activision is a major sponsor of the SOPA bill.

The makers of one of the gaming industries top selling series.

Yes, and?

Well, if Activision supports it, I'm definitely against it.
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Robert Magoo
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Postby Robert Magoo » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:11 pm

Auremena wrote:The US government can't regulate the internet, it's an international structure.

China says otherwise. So long as they have the legal authority (not that they do; they don't) it's perfectly possible to regulate it's use within the US.
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Fjord-du-Saguenay
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Founded: Dec 30, 2011
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Postby Fjord-du-Saguenay » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:12 pm

I'd like all of you to take the time to watch this video... very illuminating. If you're not against SOPA beforehand, I'd hope you'd be afterward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc

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Auremena
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Postby Auremena » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:12 pm

Robert Magoo wrote:
Auremena wrote:The US government can't regulate the internet, it's an international structure.
China says otherwise. So long as they have the legal authority (not that they do; they don't) it's perfectly possible to regulate it's use within the US.
I never said it wasn't physically possible, I just mean it isn't right to claim something that belongs to the world as your own.
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Inky Noodles
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Postby Inky Noodles » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:13 pm

Galloism wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Yes, and?

Well, if Activision supports it, I'm definitely against it.

Activision wants it so no competition against CoD and many of their other games can come up.
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Veceria wrote:People with big noses have big penises.
Even the females.

Especially the females. *nod*


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Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Are you OK? :eyebrow:

It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Fellrike
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Postby Fellrike » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:13 pm

If there's illegal infringement of some kind, let the aggrieved parties seek damages through civil action. Why make it a criminal case? Why should our government become the collections agency for the recording artists and music industry?
If SOPA had to be approved by a popular vote, the American electorate would never allow it to become law.

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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:13 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, if Activision supports it, I'm definitely against it.

Activision wants it so no competition against CoD and many of their other games can come up.

That's almost as bad as EA supporting it. I mean... if EA supports it, I will march.
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New Conglomerate
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Postby New Conglomerate » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:14 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, if Activision supports it, I'm definitely against it.

Activision wants it so no competition against CoD and many of their other games can come up.

Or rather, they want to litigate any company that uses COD-style game aspects for copyright infringement.
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Robert Magoo
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Postby Robert Magoo » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:14 pm

Auremena wrote:
Robert Magoo wrote:China says otherwise. So long as they have the legal authority (not that they do; they don't) it's perfectly possible to regulate it's use within the US.
I never said it wasn't physically possible, I just mean it isn't right to claim something that belongs to the world as your own.

Oh, well in that case... the internet doesn't actually exist. It's an abstract entity. The servers and clients that make it up do exist though, and you can absolutely regulate their use (again, not that it should be done or is constitutional)
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Postby Pendragonia » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:14 pm

Robert Magoo wrote:
Auremena wrote:The US government can't regulate the internet, it's an international structure.

China says otherwise. So long as they have the legal authority (not that they do; they don't) it's perfectly possible to regulate it's use within the US.


And with the bulk of the servers that make the Internet work being located in the US, it'll screw over alot of people the world.
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Inky Noodles
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Postby Inky Noodles » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:14 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:QUICK.

I WANNA ASK SOMEONE TO HOMECOMING.


whaddo I do?!


So I just met you
and this is crazy
but heres my number
homecoming maybe?

*not a valid offer.

~Trans, killing TET's since part 45.

San Leggera wrote:
Veceria wrote:People with big noses have big penises.
Even the females.

Especially the females. *nod*


Hurdegaryp wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Are you OK? :eyebrow:

It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Robert Magoo
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Postby Robert Magoo » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:15 pm

Pendragonia wrote:
Robert Magoo wrote:China says otherwise. So long as they have the legal authority (not that they do; they don't) it's perfectly possible to regulate it's use within the US.


And with the bulk of the servers that make the Internet work being located in the US, it'll screw over alot of people the world.

It would, yes. Again, I don't support it. I'm not attacking the position, but the argument.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:15 pm


A 20 minute youtube video???

With MY attention span?
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New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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