SOPA Bill(Internet Censorship.Your Opinion.

by **Charlotte Ryberg** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:03 am

SOPA could drive the internet firms overseas to avoid the flawed legislation, and it would be a shame to have the US lose its long established position as the leader of the internet, because they were the pioneer of the internet.

by **Allrule** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:03 am

Seleucas wrote:Yet another infringement of freedom from the US government, that's not surprising. I'm just glad I'll probably be moving overseas before things can get much worse.

Commie, why do you want to leave the bastion of Freedom and Democracy^TM that is the United States? You wouldn't want to do that unless you were a radical, dangerous America-hater... and we all know America-hating is just one step away from terrorism... You need to be arrested, you're a possible terrorist!

/sarcasm

by **Paintal** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:05 am

I don't even understand how the bill got this far. Here's hoping it never passes.

by **Republic of Aspergia** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:11 am

Who was the one who voted for this?

Anyway, this is a very stupid bill. Screw anyone who actually supports this bill.

by **New Sapienta** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:15 am

What really scares me is hhow someone can go to jail for 5 years just for posting copyrighted work.

by **Charlotte Ryberg** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:52 am

New Sapienta wrote:What really scares me is hhow someone can go to jail for 5 years just for posting copyrighted work.

What's worse, they could then use that to implement a court order banning them from using a computer just for posting pirate URLs. It's easy to post a URL now that it will give Google and Facebook an instant knock-down.

by **Natapoc** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:58 am

New Sapienta wrote:What really scares me is hhow someone can go to jail for 5 years just for posting copyrighted work.

Most of our "rulers" probably don't even understand what a URL is. That's why they can make bad laws about what they don't understand.

source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE

by **Tekania** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:30 am

Bad idea... baaaaaad idea. All it will do is drive many of our hosting companies, cloud services companies and the like overseas. There is also a concern with the related PIP with its impact on DNS security. Key authors of the RFC's related to DNS have pointed out that the redirection imposed with PIP are incompatible with DNS security extensions and would undermine the reliability and interoperability of the DNS system as used by private, military and government agencies.

by **Daistallia 2104** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:56 am

Farnhamia wrote:-snip-
Steve King, Iowa
-snip-
Sheila Jackson-Lee, Texas
-snip-

Best idea - remind these two of their tiff.

by **Michael VII** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:54 am

SOPA = States Oppressing Peoples' Agency

Censorship Level 100.
Douchebag Level 10000^10000

The great thing is that there are loop holes through this law. We have the simpler version implemented in NZ and its easy. We tested SOPA out for America and while its as bad a law as can get, its easy to get around. Don't worry too much about it, but please fight it as long as you can. It will sadly, inevitably pass. But the great thing is, 2012 is an election year. Elect out ALL incumbents who supported the bill. They are elected to uphold America's value of freedom, how ironic of them to support SOPA, a bill that makes the US become more oppressive.

There are a lot of American things that I love, that I simply cannot get in NZ without the aid of streaming. This makes sites like Justin.tv illegal. I need that for my Football and Hockey. Bring on a new year of freedom and destroy SOPA mercilessly!

by **Central Lothian** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:29 am

New Sapienta wrote:I can't belive someone actually supports this.

And the irony is that that person quite possibly downloads stuff illegally.

by **H N Fiddlebottoms VIII** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:29 am

Republic of Aspergia wrote:Who was the one who voted for this?

The best troll ever. He didn't even have to say anything, just click two buttons and BAM instant hate. I wish I'd thought of it first.

by **Soviet Russia Republic** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:36 am

That censorship sounds stupid.

by **AETEN II** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:43 am

Where's the 'NUKE IT FROM GODDAMN ORBIT!' option?

by **Central Slavia** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:06 am

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
Don't worry, was probably a Maoist or Marxist-Leninist. No one with a sane mind would actually support such a cause.

Marxist or a European.

Either one.

No.
The bill, as said rightly supports commercial interests, not political or public interests.
China does have extensive internet censorship , but simply to prevent the kind of problems that so-called social networks were able to stir elsewhere, and to prevent leaks of sensitive information.

by **Metanih** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:29 am

Hey US Government, the Internet is known as the WORLD WIDE web, for a reason, and you don't have international internet jurisdiction. This bill is therefore pointless except as an attempt to oppress us.

by **Erinkita** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:31 am

Metanih wrote:Hey US Government, the Internet is known as the WORLD WIDE web, for a reason, and you don't have international internet jurisdiction. This bill is therefore pointless except as an attempt to oppress us.

It only has the power to regulate US-based servers, but since we all use those sites, it affects the rest of us too, even though we have no say in it.

by **Metanih** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:36 am

Erinkita wrote:
Metanih wrote:Hey US Government, the Internet is known as the WORLD WIDE web, for a reason, and you don't have international internet jurisdiction. This bill is therefore pointless except as an attempt to oppress us.

It only has the power to regulate US-based servers, but since we all use those sites, it affects the rest of us too, even though we have no say in it.

And then the servers will just move. The bill will be pointless, unless the corruption in our government spreads throughout the rest of the world as well. At least, pointless in the long run.

by **Erinkita** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:43 am

Metanih wrote:
Erinkita wrote:It only has the power to regulate US-based servers, but since we all use those sites, it affects the rest of us too, even though we have no say in it.

And then the servers will just move. The bill will be pointless, unless the corruption in our government spreads throughout the rest of the world as well. At least, pointless in the long run.

It's also ridiculously easy to get around if you want to pirate stuff. All it does is give the entertainment industry undue power over its competition.

by **Terripin** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:57 am

I hope the US government realizes there are ways to get around this, where a decent amount of people know.

by **Tekania** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:59 am

Erinkita wrote:
Metanih wrote:And then the servers will just move. The bill will be pointless, unless the corruption in our government spreads throughout the rest of the world as well. At least, pointless in the long run.

It's also ridiculously easy to get around if you want to pirate stuff. All it does is give the entertainment industry undue power over its competition.

It also creates a massive issue related to DNSSEC which could potentially effect and compromise computer which use that to verify DNS records for security reason (including military and government systems). It's basically politicians who don't know shit about how things work getting in bed with corporate goons who also don't know how this shit works and passing laws that allow them to fuck over other people without considering of the broader implications. Frankly, no serious internet/IT person supports this shit.

by **New Conglomerate** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:00 am

Terripin wrote:I hope the US government realizes there are ways to get around this, where a decent amount of people know.

Wikipedia's been talking about a blackout of the sight to educate the general public about the bill.

by **Terripin** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:05 am

New Conglomerate wrote:
Terripin wrote:I hope the US government realizes there are ways to get around this, where a decent amount of people know.

Wikipedia's been talking about a blackout of the sight to educate the general public about the bill.

If you educate today's youth on it, they'll all go screaming at their parents "Dun let them take away Facebook!"
^The politicians would have to give in.

by **New Conglomerate** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:16 am

Terripin wrote:
New Conglomerate wrote:Wikipedia's been talking about a blackout of the sight to educate the general public about the bill.

If you educate today's youth on it, they'll all go screaming at their parents "Dun let them take away Facebook!"
^The politicians would have to give in.

Adults use Wikipedia as well...

But yes, that's the general idea, I suppose.

by **Ourfgenstan (Ancient)** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:18 am

I voted yes just to piss people off, but in all seriousness I doubt a single human being supports SOPA, yes, politicians aren't humans.

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