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Do you Like SOPA?

Yes
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5%
No
119
95%
 
Total votes : 125

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New Conglomerate
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Postby New Conglomerate » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:37 pm

SOPA is a conspiracy backed by those who distributed the software to pirate said material in the first place.

There are pages of sources and reference material in that link. It's even worse than I thought.
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Biop
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Postby Biop » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:37 pm

My oponion is if its enacted? Congress will slowly die in a series of shootings, Bombings, and Beatings by people who lost Facebook
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Oh god....Hopefully that waits for a while:P

Oh Christ seeing Cole cause this much, Hudson will kill us.

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Occupy NationStates
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Postby Occupy NationStates » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:38 pm

SOPA is irrelevant now. The government passed a bill in its place that allows them to arrest you and jail you indefinitely for anything they feel like. They just have to create a backdrop that makes you look like you support terrorism. They don't even have to prove it, just create the image.

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New Sapienta
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:39 pm

Biop wrote:My oponion is if its enacted? Congress will slowly die in a series of shootings, Bombings, and Beatings by people who lost Facebook

Facebook won't neccasarily shut down, it will however go on a massive campaign of censorship.

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New Sapienta
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:39 pm

Biop wrote:My oponion is if its enacted? Congress will slowly die in a series of shootings, Bombings, and Beatings by people who lost Facebook

Facebook won't neccasarily shut down, it will however go on a massive campaign of censorship.

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New Conglomerate
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Postby New Conglomerate » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:40 pm

Occupy NationStates wrote:SOPA is irrelevant now. The government passed a bill in its place that allows them to arrest you and jail you indefinitely for anything they feel like. They just have to create a backdrop that makes you look like you support terrorism. They don't even have to prove it, just create the image.

That bill doesn't allow them to jail you indefinitely unless you walk around with a jihadi flag glued to your forehead.
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The Soviet Technocracy
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:40 pm

New Conglomerate wrote:
Occupy NationStates wrote:SOPA is irrelevant now. The government passed a bill in its place that allows them to arrest you and jail you indefinitely for anything they feel like. They just have to create a backdrop that makes you look like you support terrorism. They don't even have to prove it, just create the image.

That bill doesn't allow them to jail you indefinitely unless you walk around with a jihadi flag glued to your forehead.


And supposedly it exempts US citizens and residents.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:41 pm

New Conglomerate wrote:
Occupy NationStates wrote:SOPA is irrelevant now. The government passed a bill in its place that allows them to arrest you and jail you indefinitely for anything they feel like. They just have to create a backdrop that makes you look like you support terrorism. They don't even have to prove it, just create the image.

That bill doesn't allow them to jail you indefinitely unless you walk around with a jihadi flag glued to your forehead.

Even then. You need to actually break the law, and I'm fairly sure that's not illegal. Stupid, but not illegal. How would you see?
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New Sapienta
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:41 pm

New Conglomerate wrote:
Occupy NationStates wrote:SOPA is irrelevant now. The government passed a bill in its place that allows them to arrest you and jail you indefinitely for anything they feel like. They just have to create a backdrop that makes you look like you support terrorism. They don't even have to prove it, just create the image.

That bill doesn't allow them to jail you indefinitely unless you walk around with a jihadi flag glued to your forehead.

No, they can arrest anyone that they suspect is a terroist.

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Tim-Opolis
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:41 pm

Biop wrote:My oponion is if its enacted? Congress will slowly die in a series of shootings, Bombings, and Beatings by people who lost Facebook


Lost Facebook? I'm more worried about losing my free downloads...
And if NationStates gets supressed... Well... Congress won't survive more than a week..
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Postby Biop » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:42 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
Biop wrote:My oponion is if its enacted? Congress will slowly die in a series of shootings, Bombings, and Beatings by people who lost Facebook

Facebook won't neccasarily shut down, it will however go on a massive campaign of censorship.

I forsee, Bugs, Crashes, And a lot of Bad things from that
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Oh god....Hopefully that waits for a while:P

Oh Christ seeing Cole cause this much, Hudson will kill us.

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New Sapienta
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:42 pm

Biop wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:Facebook won't neccasarily shut down, it will however go on a massive campaign of censorship.

I forsee, Bugs, Crashes, And a lot of Bad things from that

Not to mention I bet that Anomonyous hacker group will go batshit insane.

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Fellrike
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Postby Fellrike » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:42 pm

It's too bad SOPA will be approved, or voted down, by a collection of politicians who've been paid off by the recording industry, instead of directly by the American people. If the electorate got to vote on this thing, it would be shot down overwhelmingly.

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Biop
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Postby Biop » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:43 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
New Conglomerate wrote:That bill doesn't allow them to jail you indefinitely unless you walk around with a jihadi flag glued to your forehead.

No, they can arrest anyone that they suspect is a terroist.

They allready can from some bill just passed
FORANGES

Scalie, Proud, Dangerous


Terintania

Oh god....Hopefully that waits for a while:P

Oh Christ seeing Cole cause this much, Hudson will kill us.

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Tim-Opolis
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:43 pm

Biop wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:Facebook won't neccasarily shut down, it will however go on a massive campaign of censorship.

I forsee, Bugs, Crashes, And a lot of Bad things from that

I forsee, the death of Congress and a spiral into Anarchy
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Postby Occupy NationStates » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:43 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
New Conglomerate wrote:That bill doesn't allow them to jail you indefinitely unless you walk around with a jihadi flag glued to your forehead.

No, they can arrest anyone that they suspect is a terroist.


Exactly, which means all they have to do is create the backdrop. They don't like what you do on the internet? They don't need SOPA now. Just have to pretend you might be a terrorist.

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Biop
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Postby Biop » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:43 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Biop wrote:I forsee, Bugs, Crashes, And a lot of Bad things from that

I forsee, the death of Congress and a spiral into Anarchy

I got my Rifle, Wanna help?
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Terintania

Oh god....Hopefully that waits for a while:P

Oh Christ seeing Cole cause this much, Hudson will kill us.

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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:44 pm

Well, I just sent off a letter.

This is probably like the third one I've ever sent to Congress ever.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:44 pm

Biop wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:No, they can arrest anyone that they suspect is a terroist.

They allready can from some bill just passed

I was talking about that bill.

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New Conglomerate
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Postby New Conglomerate » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:44 pm

Fellrike wrote:It's too bad SOPA will be approved, or voted down, by a collection of politicians who've been paid off by the recording industry, instead of directly by the American people. If the electorate got to vote on this thing, it would be shot down overwhelmingly.

Wikipedia is reportedly planning a blackout of their sites to do just that.
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Tim-Opolis
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:46 pm

Biop wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:I forsee, the death of Congress and a spiral into Anarchy

I got my Rifle, Wanna help?

I'm in. Occupy Senate anyone?
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:47 pm

Galloism wrote:Well, I just sent off a letter.

This is probably like the third one I've ever sent to Congress ever.

I've sent as of now-

4 letters
500+ emails
and signed
100+ petitions
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:50 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, I just sent off a letter.

This is probably like the third one I've ever sent to Congress ever.

I've sent as of now-

4 letters
500+ emails
and signed
100+ petitions

Well, I'm going to call Rick and set up a time for beers and talk with him about it this week.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:52 pm

Galloism wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:I've sent as of now-

4 letters
500+ emails
and signed
100+ petitions

Well, I'm going to call Rick and set up a time for beers and talk with him about it this week.

Rick?
If it's obvious of a reply and I'm not realizing it.... Blame it on the New Year
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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:53 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, I'm going to call Rick and set up a time for beers and talk with him about it this week.

Rick?
If it's obvious of a reply and I'm not realizing it.... Blame it on the New Year

Rick Crawford.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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