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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:35 am

The Black Forrest wrote::D Biology doesn't care about moral systems.


That's my point.

P1. Objectification is wrong.
P2. Sex and relationships always involve some objectification.
C. Sex and relationships are immoral.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.
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Postby Straughn » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:36 am

Cromarty wrote:
Four-sided Triangles wrote:
No, objectification is always wrong. Since all sex and relationships are built on objectification, they too must be wrong.

Stop dealing in absolutes. Life isn't like that.

... if one is to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic narrow view of the *insert favourite cult here*. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of *insert worldview generalisation here*.

Yeah, take it from the Sith guy. Stop dealing in absolutes!
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:37 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote::D Biology doesn't care about moral systems.


That's my point.

P1. Objectification is wrong.
P2. Sex and relationships always involve some objectification.
C. Sex and relationships are immoral.


Animals have moral systems?
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Postby Straughn » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:37 am

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Seperates wrote:Why are you suprised? This is NSG.


I keep forgetting.

... we're not in love anymo .. wait, were we? Or were we just objectifying each other?
Either way, we will never be the same a-gain.
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Postby Marketalia » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:37 am

In regards to your morality:

Why is it good, in your moral code, for me to eat cake, but not good when you eat it?
What rational argument can you muster for the placement of yourself as a terrible moral being?
Why should you seek the good of others above your own? What intrinsic value do they possess that you lack?
If life is a value - such as the lives of others - then shouldn't pursuit of those things that enhance living be a virtue?
If other's happiness is a good, why do you advocate a moral code that, by your own admission, makes you miserable?

In regard to the study:
Why is objectifying someone "bad"? If we are biological constructs, designed by natural selection to pick things - including mates - who will pass on our genes, how is evaluating someone for those attributes wrong?
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:38 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Animals have moral systems?


Some do. That's not my point. My point is the sex is morally objectionable. It's wrong.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.
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Postby The Cookish States » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:39 am

Cromarty wrote:
Four-sided Triangles wrote:
No, objectification is always wrong. Since all sex and relationships are built on objectification, they too must be wrong.

Stop dealing in absolutes. Life isn't like that.

To quote a certain sig...
"Only the Sith deal in absolutes."

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Eres tu FST???
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:39 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote::D Biology doesn't care about moral systems.


That's my point.

P1. Objectification is wrong.
P2. Sex and relationships always involve some objectification.
C. Sex and relationships are immoral.

Who gives a shit about morality?
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:40 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Animals have moral systems?


Some do. That's not my point. My point is the sex is morally objectionable. It's wrong.


Unlike you, people actually enjoy sex.

Deal with it.
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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:40 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Odins Scandinavia wrote:
Only the sith deal in absolutes.


Are you the master or the apprentice? :shock:


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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:40 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Animals have moral systems?


Some do. That's not my point. My point is the sex is morally objectionable. It's wrong.


Which ones?

Biology still shows you to be wrong. Objectification is not a crime.
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Postby Great Malema » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:40 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Animals have moral systems?


Some do. That's not my point. My point is the sex is morally objectionable. It's wrong.


I ask again, so what you're saying is it's immoral to be human?
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:41 am

Odins Scandinavia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Are you the master or the apprentice? :shock:


i am the pope Emperor Palpatine! bow before my unholy wrath![/joke]


How can you have Unholy wrath if you're the Pope?
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Natapoc » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:41 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Four-sided Triangles wrote:I'm vindicated. All sexual attraction is objectification. You can't get out of it.


Vindicated of what?

Part of sex is objectification. We all objectify our partners when we select them for certain features we like....


No, objectification is not part of sex. You may be unwilling to enter into a sexual relationship without objectifying your partner but that's not a necessary part of the act. It's something you've been trained to do by our culture. You can choose to continue objectifying people or you can choose to stop.
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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:41 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Animals have moral systems?


Some do. That's not my point. My point is the sex is morally objectionable. It's wrong.


if its wrong, why has it happened for the entirety of human history (indeed, the entirety of history past Asexual spaecies)
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:41 am

Cromarty wrote:Who gives a shit about morality?


Anyone who's not okay with theft, rape, murder, genocide, etc..
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.
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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:41 am

Gauthier wrote:
Odins Scandinavia wrote:
i am the pope Emperor Palpatine! bow before my unholy wrath![/joke]


How can you have Unholy wrath if you're the Pope?


my force-lightning, of course.
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Then silence....thundering sound approaches. It begins to rumble the earth and the sky as it draws near. Soon the air above you becomes heavy from the large blasts of wind. The stale air of death consumes you mouth. Then a hand graps your arm and a sudden yank. Your eyes adjust to burst of light. The angelic voice says " ODIN chooses you to live again in Valhalla and to become one of his army ..... EINHERJAR



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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:42 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Cromarty wrote:Who gives a shit about morality?


Anyone who's not okay with theft, rape, murder, genocide, etc..


And the non-sequitor award goes to......
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:42 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Biology still shows you to be wrong. Objectification is not a crime.


Biology can do no such thing. There is no moral philosophy implicit in biology. None.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.
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Postby AiliailiA » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:42 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Objectification is only wrong when you let your partner think your relationship is something more then you think it is.


No, objectification is always wrong. Since all sex and relationships are built on objectification, they too must be wrong.


I say this as someone who almost daily stays up too late posting on NSG ... you need sleep. Call it a day hmm?

Oh, and don't you dare ever threaten us with your suicide again. If your life is so miserable that you can't bear it then kill yourself, but DO NOT try to pretend it's for anyone else's good. You're way smart (top 5% at least) and "making way" for an average person would be doing the human race no good at all. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, so get your emotional shit in order and do some good with that mind you have.

That is all. I will try not to make any further personal comments.
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Postby Straughn » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:43 am

The Cookish States wrote:
Cromarty wrote:Stop dealing in absolutes. Life isn't like that.

To quote a certain sig...
"Only the Sith deal in absolutes."

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You know what, Palpatine not only spoke specifically about being more broad than absolutes as a leader, he actually wheeled and SPECIFICALLY DEALED in something other than absolutes for many, many (pardon) moons, in the Senate. Yes, he eventually Machiavelli'd and took advantage, but that was also with having made many deals to get there that clearly weren't absolutes.
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:43 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Cromarty wrote:Who gives a shit about morality?


Anyone who's not okay with theft, rape, murder, genocide, etc..

:roll:
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Postby Natapoc » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:43 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Four-sided Triangles wrote:
That's my point.

P1. Objectification is wrong.
P2. Sex and relationships always involve some objectification.
C. Sex and relationships are immoral.


Animals have moral systems?


Could you explain how this statement relates to the post to which you replied?
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:43 am

The Black Forrest wrote:And the non-sequitor award goes to......


If you object to murder, you must have some moral system. It might be poorly thought out and primitive, but it's still there. The second you find anything wrong or objectionable, that automatically induces a morality.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.
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Postby Straughn » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:44 am

Gauthier wrote:
Odins Scandinavia wrote:
i am the pope Emperor Palpatine! bow before my unholy wrath![/joke]


How can you have Unholy wrath if you're the Pope?
If it's "self-abuse".
Seriously, that's the value of such a pronounced ... public sceptre.
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