Attraction is Objectification

[Gauthier]

Can we just leave it at "Trolling" or "SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP IMMEDIATELY" and be done with this?

Except this is NSG. Another blog'll crop up and the cycle repeats.

[Four-sided Triangles]

I'm sorry I certainly don't intend to morally talk down to you. I was intending the opposite: to try to persuade you that the fact you are even thinking about these issues means that in some way you seem to be a step above the average.

I'm not in any way claiming I'm better than anyone. I don't think that at all. All I'm saying is you're not a bad person.

But you do far more than think about it. You live it. You're even vegan. I can't compete.

[Desperate Measures]

Pleas don't lie to me. You think I'm a misogynist and that I hate women and have sexist ideas. You clearly think I'm a terrible person.

I'm not lying to you.

I don't know if you hate women or not. I see no reason to assume you do. You do have sexist ideas yes. But you know what? Most people do! Most women do and most men do.

Do you want to know why? It's because we live in a deeply sexist culture and we're just now starting to really challenge patriarchy. You want to really challenge patriarchy? Then have sex but treat the women you have sex with like a real person. Not a sex object for your pleasure.

I'm not even 100% sure that you can be born and raised in a western country and ever outgrow all the effects of having lived in such a sexist culture.

Do you think I hate most people? Well if I did you know what would be the result? I'd be miserable and no one would even care.

So why would I want to hate most people? That would just harm myself. No I don't hate you. The fact that you even are thinking about such things puts you a step above most honestly.

At least you are willing to consider how your actions may effect others. A lot of men don't. A lot of women don't either but they tend to disregard others in different ways from how men disregard others.

I like this.

[Rhodmhire]

Seems like it's a problem with the women if they're going to go silent over it whereas the men generally won't.

[Natapoc]

His fingers are on viagra. It allows increased typing endurance.

I think it's been four hours; he really should be calling his doctor by now.

We've been encouraging that for some time.

[The Aryan Nations]

no, he thinks they are going to poison him.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=154207&start=350

towards the bottom of the page :\

[The Murtunian Tribes]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=154207&start=350

towards the bottom of the page :\

K.....this keeps getting weirder.

[The Aryan Nations]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=154207&start=350

towards the bottom of the page :\

K.....this keeps getting weirder.

..yeah.

[Idaho Conservatives]

I think it's been four hours; he really should be calling his doctor by now.

We've been encouraging that for some time.

My post was referencing Viagra commercials.

[Natapoc]

Seems like it's a problem with the women if they're going to go silent over it whereas the men generally won't.

As the source in the OP says...

As Saguy explains, "When a woman believes that a man is focusing on her body, she narrows her presence... by spending less time talking." There are a few possible reasons for this. Saguy suspects that objectification prompts women to align their behaviour with what's expected of them - silent things devoid of other interesting traits. Treat someone like an object, and they'll behave like one. Alternatively, worries about their appearance might simply distract them from the task at hand.

[Novraslavia]

I want a society entirely governed by females, where males are not allowed to hold political power at all.

So what your saying is is that you're sexist? Sexism is a two sided coin, my misguided comrade. The fact that you admitted to believing woman are superior to men makes you no better than those who think men are superior to woman.

We get it, you think sex is degrading. Well sometimes it is, but I can safely say that most of the time it isn't. My suggestion: keep it to yourself. Or at the very least, stop aggressively advertising your personal beliefs like you seem to do so very often.

If you really believe what you are saying, then good for you. At least you believe in something to be true. I do believe it was Martin Luther King Jr. who said, and I quote, "If a man hasn't discovered something that he will die for, he isn't fit to live". But frankly, your constant aggresive blogging is getting on people's nerves. You obviously aren't going to change this fine community's opinion on sex, so there's not really any use trying. Okay, okay, that might of been a bit harsh. How about you just keep your argument in one thread and be a tad more civil in debating it?

The truth is that people think you are nothing more than a troll, and I'm beginning to believe them. So to sum up: calm your shit.

Finally, I apologize for any mistakes in my post. I wrote this on my phone and I'm very tired. I just felt like stating my worthless opinion.

[AiliailiA]

Can we just leave it at "Trolling" or "SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP IMMEDIATELY" and be done with this?

Yes. Where it says General near the top of the page? Click that.

[The Aryan Nations]

We've been encouraging that for some time.

My post was referencing Viagra commercials.

for an erection lasting more than 4 hours, contact your doctor.

its a lovely shot.

Can we just leave it at "Trolling" or "SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP IMMEDIATELY" and be done with this?

Yes. Where it says General near the top of the page? Click that.

...win.

[Natapoc]

I'm sorry I certainly don't intend to morally talk down to you. I was intending the opposite: to try to persuade you that the fact you are even thinking about these issues means that in some way you seem to be a step above the average.

I'm not in any way claiming I'm better than anyone. I don't think that at all. All I'm saying is you're not a bad person.

But you do far more than think about it. You live it. You're even vegan. I can't compete.

Life is not a competition. We all do what we can with what we've been born with and what we experience and are able to learn and who we interact with.

There is no need to compete with anyone on anything. That's allowing yourself to be defined in terms of another person.

[Rhodmhire]

Seems like it's a problem with the women if they're going to go silent over it whereas the men generally won't.

As the source in the OP says...

As Saguy explains, "When a woman believes that a man is focusing on her body, she narrows her presence... by spending less time talking." There are a few possible reasons for this. Saguy suspects that objectification prompts women to align their behaviour with what's expected of them - silent things devoid of other interesting traits. Treat someone like an object, and they'll behave like one. Alternatively, worries about their appearance might simply distract them from the task at hand.

Yeah, and that still seems to me to be a problem with the women in terms of their reaction to it.

[AiliailiA]

Hey, I've got an idea.

Have sex with a woman. Make sure that if anyone is getting demeaned or objectified in the process THAT IT IS YOU.

How? Only have sex with the woman if she pays you.

I guess this only works if you're more attractive than Jabba the Hut, but even if not it might be worth a try.

[The Aryan Nations]

But you do far more than think about it. You live it. You're even vegan. I can't compete.

Life is not a competition. We all do what we can with what we've been born with and what we experience and are able to learn and who we interact with.

There is no need to compete with anyone on anything. That's allowing yourself to be defined in terms of another person.

Vegan. huh. i still dont understand why you like bees and cows more than the people who pick veggies for yall

no offense or anything

[The Aryan Nations]

Hey, I've got an idea.

Have sex with a woman. Make sure that if anyone is getting demeaned or objectified in the process THAT IT IS YOU.

How? Only have sex with the woman if she pays you.

I guess this only works if you're more attractive than Jabba the Hut, but even if not it might be worth a try.

this is possible? oh god.. i need to buy a hooker suit...

[AiliailiA]

But you do far more than think about it. You live it. You're even vegan. I can't compete.

Life is not a competition. We all do what we can with what we've been born with and what we experience and are able to learn and who we interact with.

There is no need to compete with anyone on anything. That's allowing yourself to be defined in terms of another person.

That is a very virtuous reply.

It will probably make 4ST feel worse.

"Defined in terms of another person" deserves repeating. There are unnamed "other people" haunting our friend I think. Internalized others.

[Desperate Measures]

Life is not a competition. We all do what we can with what we've been born with and what we experience and are able to learn and who we interact with.

There is no need to compete with anyone on anything. That's allowing yourself to be defined in terms of another person.

That is a very virtuous reply.

It will probably make 4ST feel worse.

"Defined in terms of another person" deserves repeating. There are unnamed "other people" haunting our friend I think. Internalized others.

I think he's looking to be chastised. This is a weird thread and makes me uncomfortable.

[AiliailiA]

Life is not a competition. We all do what we can with what we've been born with and what we experience and are able to learn and who we interact with.

There is no need to compete with anyone on anything. That's allowing yourself to be defined in terms of another person.

Vegan. huh. i still dont understand why you like bees and cows more than the people who pick veggies for yall

Yeah I've never understood that about vegans. Personally I like a bit of young lean farm laborer along with the veggies.

Seriously, don't pick on the vegans. It just makes you look like someone shouting down their own conscience.

[The Aryan Nations]

Vegan. huh. i still dont understand why you like bees and cows more than the people who pick veggies for yall

Yeah I've never understood that about vegans. Personally I like a bit of young lean farm laborer along with the veggies.

Seriously, don't pick on the vegans. It just makes you look like someone shouting down their own conscience.

..you missed the part where i said no offense D:

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Vegan. huh. i still dont understand why you like bees and cows more than the people who pick veggies for yall

Yeah I've never understood that about vegans. Personally I like a bit of young lean farm laborer along with the veggies.

Seriously, don't pick on the vegans. It just makes you look like someone shouting down their own conscience.

I tried a vegan diet, but decided I like milk. So I just practice vegetarianism.

[AiliailiA]

That is a very virtuous reply.

It will probably make 4ST feel worse.

"Defined in terms of another person" deserves repeating. There are unnamed "other people" haunting our friend I think. Internalized others.

I think he's looking to be chastised. This is a weird thread and makes me uncomfortable.

Yes. Normally I wouldn't talk about someone in front of them but for some reason it feels OK this time. Perhaps I'm playing along

Yeah I've never understood that about vegans. Personally I like a bit of young lean farm laborer along with the veggies.

Seriously, don't pick on the vegans. It just makes you look like someone shouting down their own conscience.

..you missed the part where i said no offense D:

I didn't miss it. I ignored it.

If you want to make an offensive statement into a joke you have to add ... well, you know.

[Desperate Measures]

I think he's looking to be chastised. This is a weird thread and makes me uncomfortable.

Yes. Normally I wouldn't talk about someone in front of them but for some reason it feels OK this time. Perhaps I'm playing along

I know exactly what you mean.