More Falklands Trouble

[Grave_n_idle]

How can doing the will of the people be undemocratic.

Do you know what 'democratic' means?

yes, i know

That's unfortunate, because it means I have no idea how you think the UK is being 'undemocratic'.

[Great Agram]

Ok, but if i am correct that was the Millitary Junta. maybe today they are more reasonble. i dont want to be misunderstood. I think everything is better than war.

The current president is very difficult to describe without getting rude. Spends rather a lot of time going on about "British imperialism" and threatening to invade.

that means the president is a nationalist.

[Risottia]

The current president is very difficult to describe without getting rude. Spends rather a lot of time going on about "British imperialism" and threatening to invade.

Here's why: Gini Index (2009) 45.8 (high inequality)

Basically she's trying to keep the poorest part of the Argentinians calm with delusions of imperial power. It's a variant of the age-old panem et circenses.

[Salandriagado]

The current president is very difficult to describe without getting rude. Spends rather a lot of time going on about "British imperialism" and threatening to invade.

that means the president is a nationalist.

More nutjob, really. And very, very deluded about the strength of their airforce.

[Farnhamia]

The current president is very difficult to describe without getting rude. Spends rather a lot of time going on about "British imperialism" and threatening to invade.

that means the president is a nationalist.

Well, here's the situation: The Argentines have no better claim to the islands than the British. The current population of the islands is British and have no desire to become part of Argentina. Argentina tried to take the islands by force in 1973 and was beaten soundly. There is no reason beyond nationalist chest-beating for anyone to insist on bringing this issue up.

[Grays Harbor]

The historical claims/history of the island are a little bit mor ecomplicated than the Falklands. Thats why.

my opinion is that the Uk is behaving very undemocratic because it causes problems. It should just give the Falklands to Argentina and amen. Argentina is on other hand a dictatorship and itis expected from it to behal so.

It is "undemocratic" to respect the wishes of the people who actually live there in the Falklands? Seriously?

The "Historical claims" idea is a bit of a non-sterter as well, because just about every nation in Europe, North America, South America and Asia has some sort of "historical claim" due to borders changing over the centuries. I guess if folk want to get dozens, if not hundreds, of little land-grab wars started, they ought keep up with this "Falklands = Malvinas and just give them to Argentina to shut them up" baloney.

[Neo Arcad]

Ok, why did britain gace up their colonial empire? it was a bad choice.

That has to be the most intelligent thing you've said so far...
Colonialism is better- or at least, British colonialism is- than the current post-colonial governments, if only because there's a non-corrupt, stable governance over the country; the whole area's protected by one of the best militaries in the world; and infrastructure is continually being built and improved. However, that said, everyone but the British, Americans, and Germans? You guys suck at colonies. Seriously. France, Holland, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Japan, Chile, the list goes on. You all SUCK at colonies.

[The Fanboyists]

Are the Argentines for real? I mean, I could understand them making a claim if the people in the islands wanted to be part of Argentina, or even making a claim (albeit, a far flimsier one) if the people of the Falklands wanted independence, but the people there WANT to be part of the British's overseas territories. I can understand butt-hurt, but this is just ridiculous.

[Grays Harbor]

that means the president is a nationalist.

Well, here's the situation: The Argentines have no better claim to the islands than the British. The current population of the islands is British and have no desire to become part of Argentina. Argentina tried to take the islands by force in 1973 1982 and was beaten soundly. There is no reason beyond nationalist chest-beating for anyone to insist on bringing this issue up.

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[Great Agram]

yes, i know

That's unfortunate, because it means I have no idea how you think the UK is being 'undemocratic'.

It was expected from Argentina to behave like now cause it is a corrupt democracy, but not from the UK.

[Salandriagado]

That's unfortunate, because it means I have no idea how you think the UK is being 'undemocratic'.

It was expected from Argentina to behave like now cause it is a corrupt democracy, but not from the UK.

The UK is not being undemocratic in any way, shape or form. At all.

[Great Agram]

that means the president is a nationalist.

More nutjob, really. And very, very deluded about the strength of their airforce.

there is no doubt that in fall of a war britain will be successful due to its millitar technology.

[Farnhamia]

Well, here's the situation: The Argentines have no better claim to the islands than the British. The current population of the islands is British and have no desire to become part of Argentina. Argentina tried to take the islands by force in 1973 1982 and was beaten soundly. There is no reason beyond nationalist chest-beating for anyone to insist on bringing this issue up.

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When you're as old as I am, nine years one way or the other ...

[The Icemark]

The Argies ridiculous claims that Spain ceded the islands to them and the fact the isles are located on the continental shelf facing them are laughable. Whats next? Are we to give Bermuda to the US just becuase its located off its eastern coast? Will France give us Calais just because Its closer to us than them?

[Zwitterjiund]

Fuck Argentina, if it came to it I'd abandon college and join the Army to fuck up those arseholes.

[Fnordgasm 5]

The Argies ridiculous claims that Spain ceded the islands to them and the fact the isles are located on the continental shelf facing them are laughable. What's next? Are we to give Bermuda to the US just because its located off its eastern coast? Will France give us Calais just because Its closer to us than them?

Isn't Calais in France?

[Farnhamia]

The Argies ridiculous claims that Spain ceded the islands to them and the fact the isles are located on the continental shelf facing them are laughable. Whats next? Are we to give Bermuda to the US just becuase its located off its eastern coast? Will France give us Calais just because Its closer to us than them?

You can keep Bermuda, I wasn't impressed the time I went there. Calais is in France, so how would that work?

Rats, ninja'd!

[Grave_n_idle]

The Argies ridiculous claims that Spain ceded the islands to them and the fact the isles are located on the continental shelf facing them are laughable. What's next? Are we to give Bermuda to the US just because its located off its eastern coast? Will France give us Calais just because Its closer to us than them?

Isn't Calais in France?

Only geographically speaking.

*nods*

[Great Agram]

that means the president is a nationalist.

Well, here's the situation: The Argentines have no better claim to the islands than the British. The current population of the islands is British and have no desire to become part of Argentina. Argentina tried to take the islands by force in 1973 and was beaten soundly. There is no reason beyond nationalist chest-beating for anyone to insist on bringing this issue up.

you mean in 1982?

Maybe the president wants to be more popular and gain possible new voters.

[Salandriagado]

The Argies ridiculous claims that Spain ceded the islands to them and the fact the isles are located on the continental shelf facing them are laughable. Whats next? Are we to give Bermuda to the US just becuase its located off its eastern coast? Will France give us Calais just because Its closer to us than them?

You can keep Bermuda, I wasn't impressed the time I went there. Calais is in France, so how would that work?

Rats, ninja'd!

Yes, but we did hold Calais during the hundred years war. That's a stronger claim than the Argentinian one.

[Cromarty]

Isn't Calais in France?

Only geographically speaking.

*nods*

A better analogy would be giving the channel islands to France cos they're closer, or the Faroes to us cos they're closer to us than to Denmark.

[Farnhamia]

You can keep Bermuda, I wasn't impressed the time I went there. Calais is in France, so how would that work?

Rats, ninja'd!

Yes, but we did hold Calais during the hundred years war. That's a stronger claim than the Argentinian one.

You held it until 1558.

[Salandriagado]

Yes, but we did hold Calais during the hundred years war. That's a stronger claim than the Argentinian one.

You held it until 1558.

(History really isn't my strong point - I only know we had it then because it's the default start date for EU3)

[Great Agram]

Ok, why did britain gace up their colonial empire? it was a bad choice.

That has to be the most intelligent thing you've said so far...
Colonialism is better- or at least, British colonialism is- than the current post-colonial governments, if only because there's a non-corrupt, stable governance over the country; the whole area's protected by one of the best militaries in the world; and infrastructure is continually being built and improved. However, that said, everyone but the British, Americans, and Germans? You guys suck at colonies. Seriously. France, Holland, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Japan, Chile, the list goes on. You all SUCK at colonies.

Who are "we"?

yes, the colonies were never full intergrated in the nations, instead of exploiting it it could be more productive to produce industry.

[Salandriagado]

That has to be the most intelligent thing you've said so far...
Colonialism is better- or at least, British colonialism is- than the current post-colonial governments, if only because there's a non-corrupt, stable governance over the country; the whole area's protected by one of the best militaries in the world; and infrastructure is continually being built and improved. However, that said, everyone but the British, Americans, and Germans? You guys suck at colonies. Seriously. France, Holland, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Japan, Chile, the list goes on. You all SUCK at colonies.

Who are "we"?

yes, the colonies were never full intergrated in the nations, instead of exploiting it it could be more productive to produce industry.

The word "we" does not appear in the post you quoted.