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Postby Morrdh » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:23 am

Great Nepal wrote:Isn't there some Argentine military base within 2000 miles of Buenos Aires? UK can just claim that they mistook Buenos Aires for that military base because it was night time and pilots got their co-ordinates badly wrong because RAF was taking lessons in accuracy bombardment from American Airforce.


We'd need an even better excuse than that, we have a rep for good accuracy that the USAF actually banned us for a few years from entering their bombing competition.
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:24 am

Risottia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Dont forget those black holes!


What do you think supernovae collapse into? :D

So, those supernovae spread their imperialistic influences throughout the galaxy and when they can no longer retain their expansion; they will go to eat up local inhabitants!
Those barbaric child eating imperialists.
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Postby Kouralia » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:24 am

Fnordgasm 5 wrote:
Risottia wrote:
What do you think supernovae collapse into? :D


Caucasian Dwarfs?

Then African American Dwarfs!
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Postby Risottia » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:24 am

Fnordgasm 5 wrote:
Risottia wrote:
What do you think supernovae collapse into? :D


Caucasian Dwarfs?

:bow:

No, African Pits.

edit, we really should slow down the threadjacking...
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Postby Kouralia » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:25 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Risottia wrote:
What do you think supernovae collapse into? :D

So, those supernovae spread their imperialistic influences throughout the galaxy and when they can no longer retain their expansion; they will go to eat up local inhabitants!
Those barbaric child eating imperialists.

And it's still a world government twisting the newspapers whilst being under the control of the Zionist Prince Phillip clones who assassinated JFK!

And all to keep the UN from sending strongly worded letter's to supernovae!
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Postby Johz » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:25 am

Angleter wrote:They're trying to isolate and sanction a small group of people exercising their right to self-determination, and make their wishes untenable, and are managing to get away with it. Where's the UN? Or the EU?

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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:27 am

Morrdh wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Isn't there some Argentine military base within 2000 miles of Buenos Aires? UK can just claim that they mistook Buenos Aires for that military base because it was night time and pilots got their co-ordinates badly wrong because RAF was taking lessons in accuracy bombardment from American Airforce.


We'd need an even better excuse than that, we have a rep for good accuracy that the USAF actually banned us for a few years from entering their bombing competition.

But USAF have broken their own world record for worst accuracy bombing...
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:29 am

Kouralia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:So, those supernovae spread their imperialistic influences throughout the galaxy and when they can no longer retain their expansion; they will go to eat up local inhabitants!
Those barbaric child eating imperialists.

And it's still a world government twisting the newspapers whilst being under the control of the Zionist Prince Phillip clones who assassinated JFK!

And all to keep the UN from sending strongly worded letter's to supernovae!

We should all go and start a revolution against UN world government controlled by barbaric child eating supernovae!
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Postby Dennaville » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:33 am

Cosgravia wrote:Argentina have historical claims to the islands, however they have for the last few hundred years been British territory. The people want to remain part of Britain's overseas territories. However, if Argentina invade AGAIN, they'll win as Britain no longer has an airforce within it's navy capable of defending them.

Im fairly certain uk had its ass handed to fhem last time in the air due to the fact that it only had the Harrior jump jet to use. It was there submarine fleet in the area that saved the day for the Brits.

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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:43 am

The Argentinians just want there islands back. They never gave up claim. Its like if you went to your next door neighbors home and tossed him out and gave it to one of your relatives who quickly moves in. You know what would happen. Argentina just wants the islands back. They have no quarrel with the inhabitants.

People here say the UK. controlled the Malvinas/Falklands and that the French and Spanish also.

UK. controlled West Falkland island.The French who were the first to build a settlement controlled East Falkland island. They then sold it to Spain. And Argentina during its independence got Spains old claims, East Falkland. But by that time the UK. had left West Falkland so it seemed all the Falklands were Argentinas. Then in time a US Naval officer arrived at the islands and ramsacked the Argentine settlement forcing all the Argentinians to leave.Which by the way years later was found to be an illegal act against Argentine territory according to a US Federal court.

So the Argentinians went back but the UK. later forced them out. The UK. knowing they were a major power could care less about Argentinas claim so they kept dragging there feet whenever Argentina asked back for the islands. Why do you think the UK. gave all of Hong Kong back to China. Major power China is no Argentina in which foot dragging for every works. And before someone starts talking about the 99 year leases. 18% of Hong Kong including Hong Kong island and the Kowloon Peninsula were given to the UK. in perpetuity by the Empire of China. And the people of that 18%, which is alot of people, were not asked what they wanted.


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Not many people live in West Falkland. Most live in East Falkland around the Capital.

In Argentina the Malvinas, which they say is in process of reclamation, are part of the province of Tierra del Fuego, Antartica and the South Atlantic islands.
Technically in Argentina María Fabiana Ríos is the provincial governor of the Falklands.

Photo of María Fabiana Ríos who was reelected on June of this year until 2015.
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I do not think Argentina will start a war. And some posters actual think that Argentina is sitting on there hands. That may have been true under the miitary dictatorships but not under there current democracy.

And Argentina does not need a navy. They have ballistic missiles in range of the Malvinas/Falklands. By the way, the missiles are made 100% in Argentina. They also have another missile program but this is a joint missile program with Brazil.

If there ever was a war, which I doubt, you would probably see thousands of missiles being fired from mobile launchers from the mainland.
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Video Argentina missile - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d81uhYzutE

Video Argentina/Brazil missile test - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLJDqrfY ... re=related
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Postby Kulverint » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:48 am

Dennaville wrote:
Cosgravia wrote:Argentina have historical claims to the islands, however they have for the last few hundred years been British territory. The people want to remain part of Britain's overseas territories. However, if Argentina invade AGAIN, they'll win as Britain no longer has an airforce within it's navy capable of defending them.

Im fairly certain uk had its ass handed to fhem last time in the air due to the fact that it only had the Harrior jump jet to use. It was there submarine fleet in the area that saved the day for the Brits.

What planet are you on? The Harrier Jumpjet was one of the key areas that one Britain the Falklands War, the Argentines couldn't handle it extremely good manoeverability, the fact that VTOL meant many more could fit onto one aircraft carrier and the fact that it could just stop, almost instantly, in mid-air if it were being chased.

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Postby Pope Joan » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:51 am

Argentina means beef.

UK means mutton.

Falklands fit better with UK.
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Postby Dennaville » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:52 am

Usaf piolts and training has rhe best record and ability of ANY air force in the world and has a reputation for seting standards as well as results that no other country could ever hope to aspire to.

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Postby Kulverint » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:52 am

Dennaville wrote:Usaf piolts and training has rhe best record and ability of ANY air force in the world and has a reputation for seting standards as well as results that no other country could ever hope to aspire to.

The two things you've said in this thread so far have both been horrifically wrong.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:14 pm

Dennaville wrote:Usaf piolts and training has rhe best record and ability of ANY air force in the world and has a reputation for seting standards as well as results that no other country could ever hope to aspire to.

Just as a reputation for setting standards in English grammar.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:17 pm

Risottia wrote:
Dennaville wrote:Usaf piolts and training has rhe best record and ability of ANY air force in the world and has a reputation for seting standards as well as results that no other country could ever hope to aspire to.

Just as a reputation for setting standards in English grammar.

Look, the US acquired the rights to the English language in 1942, as part of the Lend-Lease agreement with Great Britain. We can write, speak or spell English any damned way we want. Silly foreigners, why is this so difficult to understand?

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Postby Awan (Ancient) » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:18 pm

Rio Cana wrote:The Argentinians just want there islands back. They never gave up claim. Its like if you went to your next door neighbors home and tossed him out and gave it to one of your relatives who quickly moves in. You know what would happen. Argentina just wants the islands back. They have no quarrel with the inhabitants.

People here say the UK. controlled the Malvinas/Falklands and that the French and Spanish also.

UK. controlled West Falkland island.The French who were the first to build a settlement controlled East Falkland island. They then sold it to Spain. And Argentina during its independence got Spains old claims, East Falkland. But by that time the UK. had left West Falkland so it seemed all the Falklands were Argentinas. Then in time a US Naval officer arrived at the islands and ramsacked the Argentine settlement forcing all the Argentinians to leave.Which by the way years later was found to be an illegal act against Argentine territory according to a US Federal court.

So the Argentinians went back but the UK. later forced them out. The UK. knowing they were a major power could care less about Argentinas claim so they kept dragging there feet whenever Argentina asked back for the islands. Why do you think the UK. gave all of Hong Kong back to China. Major power China is no Argentina in which foot dragging for every works. And before someone starts talking about the 99 year leases. 18% of Hong Kong including Hong Kong island and the Kowloon Peninsula were given to the UK. in perpetuity by the Empire of China. And the people of that 18%, which is alot of people, were not asked what they wanted.


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Not many people live in West Falkland. Most live in East Falkland around the Capital.

In Argentina the Malvinas, which they say is in process of reclamation, are part of the province of Tierra del Fuego, Antartica and the South Atlantic islands.
Technically in Argentina María Fabiana Ríos is the provincial governor of the Falklands.

Photo of María Fabiana Ríos who was reelected on June of this year until 2015.
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I do not think Argentina will start a war. And some posters actual think that Argentina is sitting on there hands. That may have been true under the miitary dictatorships but not under there current democracy.

And Argentina does not need a navy. They have ballistic missiles in range of the Malvinas/Falklands. By the way, the missiles are made 100% in Argentina. They also have another missile program but this is a joint missile program with Brazil.

If there ever was a war, which I doubt, you would probably see thousands of missiles being fired from mobile launchers from the mainland.
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Video Argentina missile - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d81uhYzutE

Video Argentina/Brazil missile test - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLJDqrfY ... re=related

Occupants of the Falklands want to stay British and if 'thousands' of misiles are fired at them then I dont think that they would like the Argentinians more than they do now. also I think that whilst the UN wants the falklands to be indipendant, this would probably count as a declaration of war. also Britain has quite alot of soldiers stationed there in case of a second attack.
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:19 pm

Dennaville wrote:Usaf piolts and training has rhe best record and ability of ANY air force in the world and has a reputation for seting standards as well as results that no other country could ever hope to aspire to.

Indeed, I totally agree with you. And I am sure, all Pakistani would agree.
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:22 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Argentina means beef.

UK means mutton.

Falklands fit better with UK.



You do know there are over 10 million heads of sheep in Argentina.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:23 pm

Rio Cana wrote:The Argentinians just want there islands back.

Too bad they aren't theirs. If the Falklands are Argentinian, then Argentina is just a Spanish colony.

They never gave up claim.

Continuing to claim something doesn't make it real.

Its like if you went to your next door neighbors home and tossed him out and gave it to one of your relatives who quickly moves in.

I thought that's what Argentinians did with previous inhabitants of Argentina.

You know what would happen. Argentina just wants the islands back. They have no quarrel with the inhabitants.

They merely want the inhabitants to bend over and subject to their law.

I do not think Argentina will start a war.

Of course. They know they would lose.

And Argentina does not need a navy.

And the fox didn't really want the grapes.

They have ballistic missiles in range of the Malvinas/Falklands.

And the Brits have SLBMs in the range of whatever target they want.

If there ever was a war, which I doubt, you would probably see thousands of missiles being fired from mobile launchers from the mainland.

So, the Argentinian idea of "not having quarrel with the Falklanders" is "let's threaten them with carpet-bombing". Lol.
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Postby Pendragonia » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:25 pm

Great Malema wrote:Honestly, will they ever get over that fact that the Falklands are British? That's like the Germans still thinking that the Alsace-Lorraine belongs to them.


There is a bit of difference there, as, AFAICT, Alsace-Lorraine had up until the Late 1940's a substantial German population, enough I think that it was a majority of the population. I know that prior to WW1 is was certainly the case that most Alsatians were German-speakers, and such had been the case for centuries before.
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Postby Kouralia » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:25 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Dennaville wrote:Usaf piolts and training has rhe best record and ability of ANY air force in the world and has a reputation for seting standards as well as results that no other country could ever hope to aspire to.

Indeed, I totally agree with you. And I am sure, all Pakistani would agree.

And so would those CVR-T drivers.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:26 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Look, the US acquired the rights to the English language in 1942, as part of the Lend-Lease agreement with Great Britain. We can write, speak or spell English any damned way we want. Silly foreigners, why is this so difficult to understand?
We were considering taking over Italian and German at the end of the war but the Roosevelt died and president Truman said it was bullshit.

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Also, didn't you know you can't spell "freedom" in Italian, German and Japanese? Speak AMERICAN!
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Postby Lenehen » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:26 pm

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Vellosia wrote:I think Argentina needs to be disciplined. Properly this time.


I for one favour giving them a proper good spanking and twenty minutes on the naughty step!


Thats not going far enough, we should also stop them from seeing their friends and stop their pocket-money.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:28 pm

Pendragonia wrote:
Great Malema wrote:Honestly, will they ever get over that fact that the Falklands are British? That's like the Germans still thinking that the Alsace-Lorraine belongs to them.


There is a bit of difference there, as, AFAICT, Alsace-Lorraine had up until the Late 1940's a substantial German population, enough I think that it was a majority of the population. I know that prior to WW1 is was certainly the case that most Alsatians were German-speakers, and such had been the case for centuries before.

Well, even today Alsatian is recognized as a regional language there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsatian_language
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