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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:27 pm

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Yewhohohopia wrote:Let's assume abortions are illegal or well out of the price range of the common folk in many places with HIV, and that accidents happen. It's not really a matter of responsibility so much as bad fortune.


If you have an HIV infection, just don't ever have sex. There.

You realize it can lie dormant and symptomless but still transmissible for years, right?
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Postby Norstal » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:29 pm

Saint Jade IV wrote:I am amazed at the predictability of the Religious Right that the first thought of so many people was, "They'll try to block it."

Kinda hoping they mix it up a little.

I'd rather they not get creative.
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Postby Saint Jade IV » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:34 pm

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Saint Jade IV wrote:I am amazed at the predictability of the Religious Right that the first thought of so many people was, "They'll try to block it."

Kinda hoping they mix it up a little.

I'd rather they not get creative.


But think of the entertainment value :P.

I was kinda hoping that they might actually realise that:

A) not blocking the vaccine might just be a better thing for humankind (that thing their God is supposed to love) than blocking it. And be sensible; and

B) they lost with the whole Gardasil thing, and came off looking like crazy, sex-obsessed morons to anyone with a modicum of common-sense

Too much to ask I know.
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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:41 pm

Mad Monarch wrote:Interesting. Now they just have to find a vaccine for herps, crabs, etc, etc....


But it is a good start


no point in worrying about herpes. 80% of humanity has it. a cold sore is herpes.
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Postby Mad Monarch » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:49 pm

Odins Scandinavia wrote:
Mad Monarch wrote:Interesting. Now they just have to find a vaccine for herps, crabs, etc, etc....


But it is a good start


no point in worrying about herpes. 80% of humanity has it. a cold sore is herpes.

Looks like I don't have herpes then ;)

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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:56 pm

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Odins Scandinavia wrote:
no point in worrying about herpes. 80% of humanity has it. a cold sore is herpes.

Looks like I don't have herpes then ;)

The vast majority display no symptoms.
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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:59 pm

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Mad Monarch wrote:Looks like I don't have herpes then ;)

The vast majority display no symptoms.



pretty sure that its something like 80% of all humans have it, 20% of the 80% are aware of the fact.
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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:04 pm

Red Indos5 wrote:if you can't cure it it's just a government ploy to push vaccines



so by this logic, a polio vaccine is a bad thing..?
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:09 pm

Odins Scandinavia wrote:
greed and death wrote:The vast majority display no symptoms.



pretty sure that its something like 80% of all humans have it, 20% of the 80% are aware of the fact.

Closer to 50% overall, 80% of people over a certain age, 50 I think.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:10 pm

Red Indos5 wrote:if you can't cure it it's just a government ploy to push vaccines

Government ploy? :eyebrow:
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:10 pm

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Odins Scandinavia wrote:so by this logic, a polio vaccine is a bad thing..?

I barely even know what polio is, but I know it's not HIV.

:palm:

it, like all viruses, is noncurable, and in this case, it causes paralysis and muscle weakness. welcome to the iron lung kid, have a nice childhood. hopefully you wont die.

because a vaccine is a bad thing.
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Postby Norstal » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:11 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Red Indos5 wrote:if you can't cure it it's just a government ploy to push vaccines

Government ploy? :eyebrow:

It's a government ploy to make you healthier and live longer so that you pay more taxes in the long run.

See how ebil the government is?
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Postby Metanih » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:12 pm

Odins Scandinavia wrote:
Red Indos5 wrote:if you can't cure it it's just a government ploy to push vaccines



so by this logic, a polio vaccine is a bad thing..?

Oh, and smallpox. Remember when you last had that?
No, you don't. We wiped it out.
With vaccines.
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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:13 pm

Metanih wrote:
Odins Scandinavia wrote:

so by this logic, a polio vaccine is a bad thing..?

Oh, and smallpox. Remember when you last had that?
No, you don't. We wiped it out.
With vaccines.


perish the thought

you mean that the worst danger to the human population until nukes was a government conspiracy to push vaccines? :roll:

the uneducated these days... :p
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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:16 pm

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Odins Scandinavia wrote:it, like all viruses, is noncurable, and in this case, it causes paralysis and muscle weakness. welcome to the iron lung kid, have a nice childhood. hopefully you wont die.

gluten is the real cause of diseases


i hope to heimdall you are kidding...
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Postby Saint Jade IV » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:17 pm

Norstal wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Government ploy? :eyebrow:

It's a government ploy to make you healthier and live longer so that you pay more taxes in the long run.

See how ebil the government is?


Totally evil. I am sick of these chains of slavery that give me roads, and education, and a health system.

I'll take my chances with the polio and the measles.
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Postby Fedeledland » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:18 pm

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Odins Scandinavia wrote:it, like all viruses, is noncurable, and in this case, it causes paralysis and muscle weakness. welcome to the iron lung kid, have a nice childhood. hopefully you wont die.

gluten is the real cause of diseases

For the first time in my life, I hope you're actually trolling and not stating your opinion...
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Postby Pendragonia » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:18 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2011/12/20/hiv-vaccine-western.html
A vaccine that may prevent HIV has been given the green light by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to begin clinical trials in humans, according to Canadian researchers.


Here's hoping it works, this would be an amazing breakthrough if it does! Here's hoping this leads to AIDS going the way of smallpox.


About fucking time! If only the knowledge of how this drug works could be shared more freely between the people who actually have the right to decide how things like this are to be used and not the god called Profit, we might have HIV/AIDS on the ropes within a decade or less.




(Yes, I just made a simultaneous attack on the notions of proprietary knowledge and capitalism, but I respectfully ask that someone with an option on the issue(s) that this brings up start a new thread)
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Postby Metanih » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:18 pm

Red Indos5 wrote:
Odins Scandinavia wrote:it, like all viruses, is noncurable, and in this case, it causes paralysis and muscle weakness. welcome to the iron lung kid, have a nice childhood. hopefully you wont die.

gluten is the real cause of diseases

And the obvious ignorance is proven!
Again.
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:19 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:You realize it can lie dormant and symptomless but still transmissible for years, right?


You didn't read where I said we should demand complete STD checks for every new sex partner, did you?
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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:19 pm

Saint Jade IV wrote:
Norstal wrote:It's a government ploy to make you healthier and live longer so that you pay more taxes in the long run.

See how ebil the government is?


Totally evil. I am sick of these chains of slavery that give me roads, and education, and a health system.

I'll take my chances with the polio and the measles.


Fuck logic! those communist nazi politician felons are gonna kill us with gay marriage vaccine AIDS crack weed! its true!

isnt the TEA party fun?
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Then silence....thundering sound approaches. It begins to rumble the earth and the sky as it draws near. Soon the air above you becomes heavy from the large blasts of wind. The stale air of death consumes you mouth. Then a hand graps your arm and a sudden yank. Your eyes adjust to burst of light. The angelic voice says " ODIN chooses you to live again in Valhalla and to become one of his army ..... EINHERJAR



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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:19 pm

Red Indos5 wrote:
Odins Scandinavia wrote:it, like all viruses, is noncurable, and in this case, it causes paralysis and muscle weakness. welcome to the iron lung kid, have a nice childhood. hopefully you wont die.

gluten is the real cause of diseases

No it isn't. It affects an estimated 6% of people, everyone else is fine. Or do you want to tell me the sinus infection I just got over was caused by gluten, despite the fact that I ate no less of it as I got better. It was rest and a nice course of antibiotics that did the trick.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease
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Postby Odins Scandinavia » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:20 pm

Red Indos5 wrote:
Odins Scandinavia wrote:i hope to heimdall you are kidding...

someone in my family gets sick if she even eats gluten


because... she is allergic... to GLUTEN!
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:21 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:You realize it can lie dormant and symptomless but still transmissible for years, right?


You didn't read where I said we should demand complete STD checks for every new sex partner, did you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_negative
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Fedeledland » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:21 pm

Odins Scandinavia wrote:
Red Indos5 wrote:someone in my family gets sick if she even eats gluten


because... she is allergic... to GLUTEN!


Exactly. @Red Indos5 GO COMMON SENSE FAIL.
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