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Postby Zathganastan » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:53 pm

Lansing wrote:
Zathganastan wrote:Yes but if your in a group there's a chance at least a few of you will make it compared to all of you eventually being wore down and over run.

I'm afraid it wouldn't be that easy. I believe it'd be safer to be hunkered down in a place you're familiar with rather than try to escape into the unknown.

Not when you up against a force that will eventually kill you no matter how hard you try to hold out.
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Postby Lansing (Ancient) » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:55 pm

Zathganastan wrote:
Lansing wrote:I'm afraid it wouldn't be that easy. I believe it'd be safer to be hunkered down in a place you're familiar with rather than try to escape into the unknown.

Not when you up against a force that will eventually kill you no matter how hard you try to hold out.

If I'm up against a force that will eventually kill me then why bother attempting to run? Seems like a waste of energy to me.

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Postby The Kiaser Colonies » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:00 pm

Barricade me and a friend in pub. Kill a couple of zombies, drink myself to death, get friend to bury me before he realises he will be on his own. Sucker :p
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Postby Kings Island » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:03 pm

My people are rich and intelligent. We would simply devize a anti-viral agent and reprogram are deutronium missiles to spread the anti-virus before we get really unlucky and a zombie washes up on our island. Then we feed the old and the poor to the zombies while everyone else flees the island to the australian outback (we're very close to australia)
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Postby The Kiaser Colonies » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:04 pm

Kings Island wrote:My people are rich and intelligent. We would simply devize a anti-viral agent and reprogram are deutronium missiles to spread the anti-virus before we get really unlucky and a zombie washes up on our island. Then we feed the old and the poor to the zombies while everyone else flees the island to the australian outback (we're very close to australia)

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:06 pm

Kings Island wrote:My people are rich and intelligent. We would simply devize a anti-viral agent and reprogram are deutronium missiles to spread the anti-virus before we get really unlucky and a zombie washes up on our island. Then we feed the old and the poor to the zombies while everyone else flees the island to the australian outback (we're very close to australia)

So intelligent your people are that you've mistaken General for an in-character forum.....

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Postby Zathganastan » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:17 pm

Lansing wrote:
Zathganastan wrote:Not when you up against a force that will eventually kill you no matter how hard you try to hold out.

If I'm up against a force that will eventually kill me then why bother attempting to run? Seems like a waste of energy to me.

Because you and the others could survive by tiring to leave, while death is assured by tiring to stay.
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Postby Strykla » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:24 pm

Zathganastan wrote:
Lansing wrote:I'm afraid it wouldn't be that easy. I believe it'd be safer to be hunkered down in a place you're familiar with rather than try to escape into the unknown.

Not when you up against a force that will eventually kill you no matter how hard you try to hold out.

Zombies aren't impossible to finish off. Even with hordes of millions, if you had a well-defended fortress, and had enough supplies, you will hold out until supplies or zombies runs out. Assuming, of course, you have people who can shoot.
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Postby Zathganastan » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:33 pm

Strykla wrote:
Zathganastan wrote:Not when you up against a force that will eventually kill you no matter how hard you try to hold out.

Zombies aren't impossible to finish off. Even with hordes of millions, if you had a well-defended fortress, and had enough supplies, you will hold out until supplies or zombies runs out. Assuming, of course, you have people who can shoot.

Dude that's been proven false multiple times threw out history, if you heavily out numbered and the enemy has high enough moral, your eventually be over run.And when it comes to zombies the're usually more of them then people have bullets so tiring to hold a fort against a zombie horde is a lost cause.
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The Allied states Military, zathganastans pride and Joy:
Army: 35,000,000 armed forces
Navy: 18,000 ships
Air force: 10,000,000 air force personal
and National Marines: 8,000,000 marines
Zathgan speical forces:2,500,000 speical forces

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Postby Alimeria II » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:44 pm

Just going to say a Plan That I won't be able to do
1. Find a Female or Male
2. Get on a boat with them
3. Pack Chickens and Pigs
4. Find a Uninhabited Island
5. Inhabit the Island
6. Breed
7. Hunt Pigs and Chickens
8. Learn what's edible
9. Die from Old age
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Postby Esternial » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:46 pm

Alimeria II wrote:Just going to say a Plan That I won't be able to do
1. Find a Female or Male
2. Get on a boat with them
3. Pack Chickens and Pigs
4. Find a Uninhabited Island
5. Inhabit the Island
6. Breed
7. Hunt Pigs and Chickens
8. Learn what's edible
9. Die from Old age
10. Watch your Family Grow and expand to redominate Planet

Incest is gross, man.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:50 pm

Alimeria II wrote:Just going to say a Plan That I won't be able to do
1. Find a Female or Male
2. Get on a boat with them
3. Pack Chickens and Pigs...

I remember this problem. It gets fun when you start adding jealous wives and police with prisoners and shit like that.

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Postby Esternial » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:53 pm

Strykla wrote:
Zathganastan wrote:Not when you up against a force that will eventually kill you no matter how hard you try to hold out.

Zombies aren't impossible to finish off. Even with hordes of millions, if you had a well-defended fortress, and had enough supplies, you will hold out until supplies or zombies runs out. Assuming, of course, you have people who can shoot.

Like this one?
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Postby Strykla » Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:05 pm

Zathganastan wrote:
Strykla wrote:Zombies aren't impossible to finish off. Even with hordes of millions, if you had a well-defended fortress, and had enough supplies, you will hold out until supplies or zombies runs out. Assuming, of course, you have people who can shoot.

Dude that's been proven false multiple times threw out history, if you heavily out numbered and the enemy has high enough moral, your eventually be over run.And when it comes to zombies the're usually more of them then people have bullets so tiring to hold a fort against a zombie horde is a lost cause.

In regular warfare, sieges don't usually prove to successful for defenders. But when it comes to zombie invasions, as long as you are supplied, and the zombies can't get to you(for example, you fortify a mountain peak with extremely steep sides, or a castle), then you stand a very good chance of winning. In the Battle of Khe Sanh, Marines held out with regular airdrops, and they were using ammo as fast as it came. You wouldn't really need to use ammo if you had a castle, just wait for a few years and they zombies rot. And if you have the ammo, blast away.
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Postby Zathganastan » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:28 pm

Strykla wrote:
Zathganastan wrote:Dude that's been proven false multiple times threw out history, if you heavily out numbered and the enemy has high enough moral, your eventually be over run.And when it comes to zombies the're usually more of them then people have bullets so tiring to hold a fort against a zombie horde is a lost cause.

In regular warfare, sieges don't usually prove to successful for defenders. But when it comes to zombie invasions, as long as you are supplied, and the zombies can't get to you(for example, you fortify a mountain peak with extremely steep sides, or a castle), then you stand a very good chance of winning. In the Battle of Khe Sanh, Marines held out with regular airdrops, and they were using ammo as fast as it came. You wouldn't really need to use ammo if you had a castle, just wait for a few years and they zombies rot. And if you have the ammo, blast away.

True, find enough men and a strong castle wall and you should be able to hold out.But I was directing this mainly to the people who think that that they can hold back the zombie hordes attacking their houses with a few rifles and some blockades.
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The Allied states Military, zathganastans pride and Joy:
Army: 35,000,000 armed forces
Navy: 18,000 ships
Air force: 10,000,000 air force personal
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Zathgan speical forces:2,500,000 speical forces

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:29 pm

Zathganastan wrote:
Strykla wrote:In regular warfare, sieges don't usually prove to successful for defenders. But when it comes to zombie invasions, as long as you are supplied, and the zombies can't get to you(for example, you fortify a mountain peak with extremely steep sides, or a castle), then you stand a very good chance of winning. In the Battle of Khe Sanh, Marines held out with regular airdrops, and they were using ammo as fast as it came. You wouldn't really need to use ammo if you had a castle, just wait for a few years and they zombies rot. And if you have the ammo, blast away.

True, find enough men and a strong castle wall and you should be able to hold out.But I was directing this mainly to the people who think that that they can hold back the zombie hordes attacking their houses with a few rifles and some blockades.

You gather the men, we'll eat the women. Barhah!

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Postby Zathganastan » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Zathganastan wrote:True, find enough men and a strong castle wall and you should be able to hold out.But I was directing this mainly to the people who think that that they can hold back the zombie hordes attacking their houses with a few rifles and some blockades.

You gather the men, we'll eat the women. Barhah!

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Shakespeare:All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;And one man in his time plays many parts
The Allied states Military, zathganastans pride and Joy:
Army: 35,000,000 armed forces
Navy: 18,000 ships
Air force: 10,000,000 air force personal
and National Marines: 8,000,000 marines
Zathgan speical forces:2,500,000 speical forces

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Postby TheIncorporation » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:36 pm

No no no, you're doing it all wrong. See, if zombies are merely rabid humans, they won't be intelligent enough to open food cans, and they'll starve to death quickly. Being rabid won't improve their hunting, and they won't be able to survive longer than a month. The most common food would be other zombies, so they'd starve, die of heat stroke, deteriorate, or eat eachother within a month. So the best plan is to hide in your basement with a large stash of food, a radio, large stash of water (when I say large, I mean really big), a shotgun, and probably some other important stuff. Blockade the basement with a large amount of your furniture, then board it up. Humans are terrible at finding things by scent, so the zombies couldn't see you or smell you, and I highly doubt they'd retain their intelligence once they became zombies. So that way, you have the highest chance of surviving until the problem is gone.

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Postby Knoxcrest » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:40 pm

TheIncorporation wrote:No no no, you're doing it all wrong. See, if zombies are merely rabid humans, they won't be intelligent enough to open food cans, and they'll starve to death quickly. Being rabid won't improve their hunting, and they won't be able to survive longer than a month. The most common food would be other zombies, so they'd starve, die of heat stroke, deteriorate, or eat eachother within a month. So the best plan is to hide in your basement with a large stash of food, a radio, large stash of water (when I say large, I mean really big), a shotgun, and probably some other important stuff. Blockade the basement with a large amount of your furniture, then board it up. Humans are terrible at finding things by scent, so the zombies couldn't see you or smell you, and I highly doubt they'd retain their intelligence once they became zombies. So that way, you have the highest chance of surviving until the problem is gone.

And then there's the theory that they aren't rabid humans. They've become carriers of a virus that heightens most of their senses after they've died.

Then what?
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Postby TheIncorporation » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:46 pm

Knoxcrest wrote:
TheIncorporation wrote:No no no, you're doing it all wrong. See, if zombies are merely rabid humans, they won't be intelligent enough to open food cans, and they'll starve to death quickly. Being rabid won't improve their hunting, and they won't be able to survive longer than a month. The most common food would be other zombies, so they'd starve, die of heat stroke, deteriorate, or eat eachother within a month. So the best plan is to hide in your basement with a large stash of food, a radio, large stash of water (when I say large, I mean really big), a shotgun, and probably some other important stuff. Blockade the basement with a large amount of your furniture, then board it up. Humans are terrible at finding things by scent, so the zombies couldn't see you or smell you, and I highly doubt they'd retain their intelligence once they became zombies. So that way, you have the highest chance of surviving until the problem is gone.

And then there's the theory that they aren't rabid humans. They've become carriers of a virus that heightens most of their senses after they've died.

Then what?


Uh, commit suicide? Run away? I have no friggin idea.

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Postby Lucantis » Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:25 pm

Glasgia wrote:
Esternial wrote:That only counts for things that are alive.

Zombies are not.

Lawyered.

Undead = Not Dead = Alive


Zombies are not necessarily alive either. I checked everything. And you know what? Nothing says that you can kill a Zombie with fire. They all say aim for the head, we can agree with that. However, nothing says fire. Maybe liquid nitrogen, turning household items into weapons, guns, and knives but not fire.
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Postby Wisconsin7 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:26 am

Lucantis wrote:
Glasgia wrote:Undead = Not Dead = Alive


Zombies are not necessarily alive either. I checked everything. And you know what? Nothing says that you can kill a Zombie with fire. They all say aim for the head, we can agree with that. However, nothing says fire. Maybe liquid nitrogen, turning household items into weapons, guns, and knives but not fire.

Even if a zombie is a living corpse that defies all natural laws, it can do absolutely nothing if it's a pile of ash on the ground. Even if it's somehow still alive, it possesses no arms or legs for propulsion, no teeth to bite you, and no bodily fluids to somehow infect you.
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Postby Immoren » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:03 am

Wisconsin7 wrote:
Lucantis wrote:
Zombies are not necessarily alive either. I checked everything. And you know what? Nothing says that you can kill a Zombie with fire. They all say aim for the head, we can agree with that. However, nothing says fire. Maybe liquid nitrogen, turning household items into weapons, guns, and knives but not fire.

Even if a zombie is a living corpse that defies all natural laws, it can do absolutely nothing if it's a pile of ash on the ground. Even if it's somehow still alive, it possesses no arms or legs for propulsion, no teeth to bite you, and no bodily fluids to somehow infect you.


This.
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Postby Republic of Aspergia » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:06 am

Immoren wrote:
Wisconsin7 wrote:Even if a zombie is a living corpse that defies all natural laws, it can do absolutely nothing if it's a pile of ash on the ground. Even if it's somehow still alive, it possesses no arms or legs for propulsion, no teeth to bite you, and no bodily fluids to somehow infect you.


This.

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Postby Zathganastan » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:51 am

Wisconsin7 wrote:
Lucantis wrote:
Zombies are not necessarily alive either. I checked everything. And you know what? Nothing says that you can kill a Zombie with fire. They all say aim for the head, we can agree with that. However, nothing says fire. Maybe liquid nitrogen, turning household items into weapons, guns, and knives but not fire.

Even if a zombie is a living corpse that defies all natural laws, it can do absolutely nothing if it's a pile of ash on the ground. Even if it's somehow still alive, it possesses no arms or legs for propulsion, no teeth to bite you, and no bodily fluids to somehow infect you.

That would still take hours of being on fire before it dies, which leaves more then enough time to go rip the person who set them on fire in half.
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