Worst leaders in history?

[Gig em Aggies]

Here's the next set
6: Ho chi Minh- Vietnam
7: Felipe Calderon- Drug war era Mexico 2006-now
8: Mao Zedong- cold war china
9: Jefferson Davis- only "president" of CSA
10: Vladimir Lenin: early USSR
11: King Philip IV: Templar era France
12: Anton Lavey- church of Satan founder
13: Fred phelps: westboro "real class a-hole"

[Milks Empire]

Ronald Reagan belongs on this list if policies are your basis. From where I stand, his platform (and emulation of it abroad) is directly responsible for the lion's share of mess the world economy is in at the moment. He was, however, one of the greatest if your basis is how many people he got to go along with it.

Andrew Jackson is unequivocally guilty of genocide against the Cherokee people as well as being a proponent of terrible monetary policy and so belongs on this list, but, like Reagan, only if policies are your basis.

Nero was awful on both bases.

Barack Obama's self-given authority to order the assassination of any US citizen anywhere in the world earns him a spot on my list on policy grounds. Throw Congress in with him for authorizing an option to turn the entire country into a giant Gitmo.

I read in a book lying around the house that Pope John XII (r.955-964) was murdered upon being caught illicitly exchanging carnal knowledge with his killer's wife. He lands on my list on grounds of piss-poor judgment.

I say what I say about Obama because he has put the USA in a liberal minded state of socialist idealouges.. He and the rest of his party are killing America

Don't use words you clearly do not comprehend in the slightest. In doing so, you make yourself out to be rather unintelligent.

[Greater Mackonia]

To all you who say Caligula Nero was MUCH worse

[Kirrig]

The worst leaders are those that have had negative affects on multiple countries. I do not think that genocidal madmen belong on such a list, that includes Hitler, for their genocidal acts as the current financial instability will negatively impact far more people than anyone one regime could ever hope to do. Therefore the people responsible for the mess are the worst leaders. I would list them but I honestly don't know which are the most responsible. Perhaps Hitler, as his actions resulted in a stronger USSR, UN, USA and the formation of countless other organisations that ultimately tied the economies of the world closer together.

[Yichta]

Papa doc and Adolf Hitler

[Cromarty]

To all you who say Caligula Nero was MUCH worse

Nero's overrated as a bad leader tbh. Elagabalus and Commodus were pretty bad, the latter especially for ending the incredibly competent Nerva-Antonine dynasty.

[Fersceau]

Here's the next set
6: Ho chi Minh- Vietnam
7: Felipe Calderon- Drug war era Mexico 2006-now
8: Mao Zedong- cold war china
9: Jefferson Davis- only "president" of CSA
10: Vladimir Lenin: early USSR
11: King Philip IV: Templar era France
12: Anton Lavey- church of Satan founder
13: Fred phelps: westboro "real class a-hole"

Thx for the Fred Phelps. He's a real jerk leading the WBC for 40 yrs as its anti-gay, Muslim, Catholic, Christian (basically he thinks anyone not in his church is going to hell)

[Milks Empire]

Here's the next set
6: Ho chi Minh- Vietnam
7: Felipe Calderon- Drug war era Mexico 2006-now
8: Mao Zedong- cold war china
9: Jefferson Davis- only "president" of CSA
10: Vladimir Lenin: early USSR
11: King Philip IV: Templar era France
12: Anton Lavey- church of Satan founder
13: Fred phelps: westboro "real class a-hole"

Thx for the Fred Phelps. He's a real jerk leading the WBC for 40 yrs as its anti-gay, Muslim, Catholic, Christian (basically he thinks anyone not in his church is going to hell)

Who wants to be my cellmate in Hell?

[Greater Mackonia]

To all you who say Caligula Nero was MUCH worse

Nero's overrated as a bad leader tbh. Elagabalus and Commodus were pretty bad, the latter especially for ending the incredibly competent Nerva-Antonine dynasty.

Nero had one of his slaves castrated because he looked like his former wife...Elagabalus was on the same level as Nero in evilness

[Fersceau]

Nero's overrated as a bad leader tbh. Elagabalus and Commodus were pretty bad, the latter especially for ending the incredibly competent Nerva-Antonine dynasty.

Nero had one of his slaves castrated because he looked like his former wife...Elagabalus was on the same level as Nero in evilness

He also killed the wife he so coveted. Irony, huh?

[Farnhamia]

To all you who say Caligula Nero was MUCH worse

Nero's overrated as a bad leader tbh. Elagabalus and Commodus were pretty bad, the latter especially for ending the incredibly competent Nerva-Antonine dynasty.

The end of the Good Emperors was less Commodus' fault and more Marcus' for making his son co-emperor and heir. The whole point of the succession had been finding the best person, not defaulting to your family.

[Gig em Aggies]

14:Bernie Madoff- ponzi scheme
15:Allen Stanford- TX billionaire
16:Harold Camping- Nostradamus wanna be
17:Adbusters- Occupy Movement organizers
18:Truthers- believes 9/11 was an inside job/ big time a-hole's
19:Hideki Tojo- Emperor of WW2 Japan
20:Jim Jones- Sadistic a-hole of Peoples Temple
21:Marshall Applewhite- Heavens Gate founder
22:David Koresh- Branch Davidians
23:Shoko Asahara- Aum Shinrikyo/ sarin gas attacks in the 90’s
24:Warren Jeffs- double class a-hole
25:Richard Nixon- mismanagement of Vietnam War and the government
26:Congress- 2007-now: spiders and women could agree with each other better “figuratively speaking”

my next in stallment to the list

[Lesbia]

Anybody who says George Bush is a troll.

[Mike the Progressive]

King George III, George W. Bush, Gaddafi, Hitler, Mussolini, Tanaka, Custer, and Marc Antony.

George W.? Really? Not the best but he was not THAT bad. let's calm down before we start putting him in the same group as Gaddafi and Hitler.

No kidding.

[Mike the Progressive]

14:Bernie Madoff- ponzi scheme

25:Richard Nixon- mismanagement of Vietnam War and the government

How the fuck did he "mismanage" the Vietnam War?

[Angleter]

Here's the next set
6: Ho chi Minh- Vietnam
7: Felipe Calderon- Drug war era Mexico 2006-now
8: Mao Zedong- cold war china
9: Jefferson Davis- only "president" of CSA
10: Vladimir Lenin: early USSR
11: King Philip IV: Templar era France
12: Anton Lavey- church of Satan founder
13: Fred phelps: westboro "real class a-hole"

12 and 13, as far as I'm aware, aren't actual leaders as in world leaders.

14:Bernie Madoff- ponzi scheme
15:Allen Stanford- TX billionaire
16:Harold Camping- Nostradamus wanna be
17:Adbusters- Occupy Movement organizers
18:Truthers- believes 9/11 was an inside job/ big time a-hole's
19:Hideki Tojo- Emperor of WW2 Japan
20:Jim Jones- Sadistic a-hole of Peoples Temple
21:Marshall Applewhite- Heavens Gate founder
22:David Koresh- Branch Davidians
23:Shoko Asahara- Aum Shinrikyo/ sarin gas attacks in the 90’s
24:Warren Jeffs- double class a-hole
25:Richard Nixon- mismanagement of Vietnam War and the government
26:Congress- 2007-now: spiders and women could agree with each other better “figuratively speaking”

my next in stallment to the list

Neither are 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, to a certain extent 19 (and Emperor he certainly wasn't), 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, or 26.

[Phoenigetuzstha]

To all you who say Caligula Nero was MUCH worse

Nero's overrated as a bad leader tbh. Elagabalus and Commodus were pretty bad, the latter especially for ending the incredibly competent Nerva-Antonine dynasty.

I agree, Nero is credited to having improved Rome Subura streets which were susceptible to fires and tried to educate the populous in the arts (to a certain extent). Caligula was apparentley quite nice for the first few months, he just turned pretty nasty after a while. Elagabalus just had a sick sense of humour and was slightly delusional and Commodus was just incompetent. I actually think Honorius should be included, despite the fact that he tried to maintain the Western Roman Empire he ultimately failed.

[Lesbia]

Anybody who says George Bush is a troll.

I will add that Barack Obama has turned the US into even more of an internationally disrespected country. We need to stop letting people step all over us.

[Geniasis]

I think anyone nominating a U.S. President other than than Harding, Buchanan, and perhaps Johnson is lacking a sense of perspective and scale.

[Lost Earth]

The worst leader in world history would probably be some guy you've never heard of because if you've heard of a leader or they're in a history book, they obviously has a good deal of leadership success.

[Lesbia]

I think anyone nominating a U.S. President other than than Harding, Buchanan, and perhaps Johnson is lacking a sense of perspective and scale.

There are two Johnsons.

[Gladia]

Here's the next set
6: Ho chi Minh- Vietnam
7: Felipe Calderon- Drug war era Mexico 2006-now
8: Mao Zedong- cold war china
9: Jefferson Davis- only "president" of CSA
10: Vladimir Lenin: early USSR
11: King Philip IV: Templar era France
12: Anton Lavey- church of Satan founder
13: Fred phelps: westboro "real class a-hole"

What did Lavey do that was so bad, exactly?

[Geniasis]

I think anyone nominating a U.S. President other than than Harding, Buchanan, and perhaps Johnson is lacking a sense of perspective and scale.

There are two Johnsons.

I'm talking about Andrew.

[Gladia]

The worst leader in world history would probably be some guy you've never heard of because if you've heard of a leader or they're in a history book, they obviously has a good deal of leadership success.

Like John Adams, George Bush, and Robert Mugabe. Best leaders ever.

[Gig em Aggies]

My list stands for the worst leaders in history as the thread title states.
No where on there did it state the people had to lead a nation at all.
So that's why I put the people I put.