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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:59 am

Republica Federal de Catalunya wrote:
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Who would have thought that walking in a straight line towards an enemy that is firing at you would be a bit of a bad idea?


Napoleonic musquets fired black powder and their lethally falled over one hundred meters, minnie butlleted, rifles we're more precise, quick to recharge and lethal at longer ranges. The same happened in Franco-prussian war.


... I know.

It makes me wonder why they never changed their tactics, though.

Cover is sort of like how you used shields to block sword strikes; how you kept yourself alive without it is baffling.

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Postby The Alchemists Guild » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:03 am

The only war fought right is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pig_War, all the others are equally stupid.
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:17 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Republica Federal de Catalunya wrote:
Napoleonic musquets fired black powder and their lethally falled over one hundred meters, minnie butlleted, rifles we're more precise, quick to recharge and lethal at longer ranges. The same happened in Franco-prussian war.


... I know.

It makes me wonder why they never changed their tactics, though.

Cover is sort of like how you used shields to block sword strikes; how you kept yourself alive without it is baffling.


During WWI if we compare the composition, equipment and Manpower of a division of any major combatant in 1914 and 1918. I'm sure we could see how had changed. Surely tactics had changed by essay an much Error, as all tactics had to be rewritten. At war's end appeared assault units like The Sturmtroopers specialized in trench warfare. They were changes in the component like more machine guns inside a division, maybe also organics AA elements and gas elements. A disminution of manpower because of loses. Personal equipment changed: Helmets, light mortars or hand grenades were reintroduced during that war.
I Could bet 20€ that a division in 1918 was more similar to one in 1939 than to one of 1914.

I imagine that only people fond of military history could notice how tactics and composition changed during a war's lenght, I imagine that even in a preindustrial conflict like the 30 years war an military historian could tell changes. I have doubt's that an army in early 30 years war fighted and was composed like one in the end of the war.

Has anyone mentioned thirty years war?

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Postby Hallistar » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:17 am

That war in Latin America during the 70s over some football game (Cause man they take soccer seriously there, a reason why one time in the 80s a columbian football star was murdered due to kicking the ball into his own goal accidently during a tournament)

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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:23 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Republica Federal de Catalunya wrote:
Napoleonic musquets fired black powder and their lethally falled over one hundred meters, minnie butlleted, rifles we're more precise, quick to recharge and lethal at longer ranges. The same happened in Franco-prussian war.


... I know.

It makes me wonder why they never changed their tactics, though.

Cover is sort of like how you used shields to block sword strikes; how you kept yourself alive without it is baffling.


I think why it took so long was the rising number of soliders used.

By the time you could train 1000 to use cover, you could train 100,000 to march in a line and fire by volley.

Which is why the Trench cam into fashion before individual tactics easier to train guys to dig, then it is to teach them to think.

Really few uses of individual tactics before WWI, the rough rider's charge up San Juan hill being a notable exception.
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:29 am

greed and death wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
... I know.

It makes me wonder why they never changed their tactics, though.

Cover is sort of like how you used shields to block sword strikes; how you kept yourself alive without it is baffling.


I think why it took so long was the rising number of soliders used.

By the time you could train 1000 to use cover, you could train 100,000 to march in a line and fire by volley.

Which is why the Trench cam into fashion before individual tactics easier to train guys to dig, then it is to teach them to think.

Really few uses of individual tactics before WWI, the rough rider's charge up San Juan hill being a notable exception.



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Postby Polkopia » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:25 pm

I'm not sure if this would be considered a "war," but i'd say the Spanish invasion of the Incas. Now hear me out. Number one, the Spanish took the Inca's ruler captive and asked for a ransom. The Incans paid it with HUGE amounts of gold, but tht SPanish took it and executed the Incan leader anyways. Another reason is because on the way back to Spain, the ships carrying the gold sank. So all of that was for nothing? Wtf spain???
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Postby Wikipedia and Universe » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:27 pm

That on-paper-only war that Britain had with Sweden a while back.
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Postby Venezio » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:47 am

Well, I've just found a 'war' that I think is really stupid - heck its even stupid to call it a war at all: The Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896 lasted for 38 minutes and for what? Just to see who gets to become king of a country no-one cares about?

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Postby Good Old Money » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:15 am

Venezio wrote:Well, I've just found a 'war' that I think is really stupid - heck its even stupid to call it a war at all: The Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896 lasted for 38 minutes and for what? Just to see who gets to become king of a country no-one cares about?


Well, the British didn't waste time. They got it over with. :)
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:27 pm

Maybe the operation musketeer in British and French perpective. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Musketeer_%281956%29

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Postby Qwcasd » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:37 pm

Pig War=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pig_War

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Postby Demen 2 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:48 pm

Kuwat wrote:1.Iraq
2.afghanistan
3.Vietnam

5/10 for effort.


And definitely World War 1.
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Postby Acrainia » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:20 pm

Defiantly that time I went to war with Estonia for about a week.

Sadly it ended with a status quo antebellum when my Estonian neighbor threaten to call the police if I kept bothering him.

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