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Postby Zehr-Brunswick » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:49 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
Great Agram wrote:The Libyan civil war from 2011. It should never happened, there were some interest behind the war.

A popular movement to oust a dictator?

Boy yeah, should never of happened. :roll:

You mean a NATO-Backed Coup, execution, and Sodomization of A World Leader?

Boy, yeah, that went well.
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Postby Bleckonia » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:50 pm

WWI, Vietnam, or the Children's Crusade (well, all the Crusades for that matter)
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:51 pm

Aesthetica wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Let's see, since this was an unstable dictatorship with many enemies in the nation that ran the country less than well and was about to collapse, even if the Argentinian leader had been able to become ever-so-slightly more popular?
Yes, because when the government was overthrown in a couple of years, the Falkands would simply rejoin Britain as any occupying troops would be putting down a revolution. Thus, you keep the islands in the end and you get an ally in the new Argentinian government because they helped you get your barren windswept piles of nothing back from the previous regime. And if support is gained, just act like your ally the US and fund the rebels so that you can regain he Islands.

Ta-daaa. Problem solved.


Wrong answer, as the new regime also wants to be popular, and occupying the Falklands is still a mass idiot appeal policy. In addition, when the old regime was overthrown (if it had been after "liberating the Malvinas"), the new regime wouldn't want to lose popularity in it's unstable beginnings by losing the islands. Besides which theres the little problem of the islanders being under despotic foreign rule and oppression for a couple of years, during which time they would have been systematically driven from their homes and replaced with "patriotic Argentinian settlers".

So, no.


The war against a external trhead from something argentinean people wanted and were united when he inflation is escandalous and economy is crippling was not by itself stupid. As is typical from dictadors look for an enemy to justificate dictatorship. Look to wage war against a superpower in that case is the stupid of the case.

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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:51 pm

WW1 most def
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Postby Solanum-Blaatone » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:51 pm

I'm not very patriotic. On the contrary, I think that many things that my country does are pretty idiotic. I'm somewhat pacifist. But I'm not freaky-extreme-pacifist; I am a meat-eater and proud of it. If there is beef on the table, then G.D. it, I am going to put it in my mouth and devour the juicy flesh of the beast. But I don't believe in war.

I believe all war is contradictory and hypocritical, not stupid. I believe it's evil and the complete wrong way to settle a dispute, but it simply cannot be prevented in many cases. I wouldn't call any war in human history stupid; I think that it is idiotic to kill some people to make others' lives better in any case.

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Postby Zersium » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:52 pm

Bleckonia wrote:WWI, Vietnam, or the Children's Crusade (well, all the Crusades for that matter)


Then not to sound biased, include the Jihads as well. :) They were equally as stupid and pointless.

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Postby Karitonia » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:56 pm

I'd have to say that all wars are equally the stupidest.

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Postby New Sapienta » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:00 pm

Zehr-Brunswick wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:A popular movement to oust a dictator?

Boy yeah, should never of happened. :roll:

You mean a NATO-Backed Coup, execution, and Sodomization of A World Leader?

Boy, yeah, that went well.

Source?

It was NATO backed, and I am glad it was. The world is a better place without Gadhaffi.

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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:02 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
Zehr-Brunswick wrote:You mean a NATO-Backed Coup, execution, and Sodomization of A World Leader?

Boy, yeah, that went well.

Source?

It was NATO backed, and I am glad it was. The world is a better place without Gadhaffi.


the world is a better place without saddam to but we got bitched at for that.
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Postby New Sapienta » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:03 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:Source?

It was NATO backed, and I am glad it was. The world is a better place without Gadhaffi.


the world is a better place without saddam to but we got bitched at for that.

Except we did not invade Libya, it cost very little in comparison to Iraq to make bombing runs.
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:04 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
the world is a better place without saddam to but we got bitched at for that.

Ecep we did not invade Libya, it cost very little in comparison to make bombing runs.


actually we did do bombing runs in Libya, the only difference is that we didn't commit a full force on the ground that's all.
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Postby Yuktova » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:05 pm

Sidhae wrote:Definitely WWI. If WWII was a battle of ideologies for world supremacy, the proxy wars of Cold War era were a continuum of that battle, and the recent petty wars in the Middle East just poorly-disguised attempts of plundering Third World nations of their resources and removing undesirable company from vicinity of Israel, then WWI was basically what became when the trigger-happy populations of jingoistic colonial empires decided they hadn't seen a real war for a century and it was time to start one again just to measure who's got the biggest dick. Likewise, no other war is so full of examples of astonishing stupidity, such as soldiers on both sides marching in parade formation against machine guns, French cadets refusing to lie down, because "French officers should never crawl on their bellies, least of all before enemy bullets" (and promptly getting scythed down), English boys being given a football and told that the one to kick it in the enemy trenches while charging would get a medal. Not to mention that this war broke the steel spine of the Western civilization, WWII only finishing the job.

This.

I'd also say that the Crimean War would count too.
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Postby New Sapienta » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:07 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:Ecep we did not invade Libya, it cost very little in comparison to make bombing runs.


actually we did do bombing runs in Libya, the only difference is that we didn't commit a full force on the ground that's all.

Sorry, that's what I meant to say.


Putting boots on the ground and launching bombing runs are two hugely diffrent monsters.

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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:09 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
actually we did do bombing runs in Libya, the only difference is that we didn't commit a full force on the ground that's all.

Sorry, that's what I meant to say.


Putting boots on the ground and launching bombing runs are two hugely diffrent monsters.


indeed but when you look at the cost of the iraq war it was miniscule, we lost fewer men in comparison to others wars
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:09 pm

Bleckonia wrote:WWI, Vietnam, or the Children's Crusade (well, all the Crusades for that matter)

The children's crusade wasn't a war.
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Postby New Sapienta » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:10 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:Sorry, that's what I meant to say.


Putting boots on the ground and launching bombing runs are two hugely diffrent monsters.


indeed but when you look at the cost of the iraq war it was miniscule, we lost fewer men in comparison to others wars

It was also way to expensive for a war that never should of happaned.

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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:12 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
indeed but when you look at the cost of the iraq war it was miniscule, we lost fewer men in comparison to others wars

It was also way to expensive for a war that never should of happaned.


true, but a lot of that money was wasted on things like paying off the locals, propaganda and other things. But yeah probably to expensive but in terms of lost manpower it was tiny.
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Postby New Sapienta » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:13 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:It was also way to expensive for a war that never should of happaned.


true, but a lot of that money was wasted on things like paying off the locals, propaganda and other things. But yeah probably to expensive but in terms of lost manpower it was tiny.

Manpower was not the problem, I agree that the lossage was tiny.

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Postby Aesthetica » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:18 pm

Looks like we need to follow "Awards Ceremony" methods...

Different classes of stupidity, Stupidest Cause, Stupidest duration, Stupidest Casualty Figures (Large), Stupidest Casualty Figures (Small), Stupidest Power Imbalance, and so on...
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Postby Honorable Citizens » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:20 pm

Metanih wrote:Children's Crusade was pretty stupid.


Yeah, that was pretty dumb.
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Postby Great Agram » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:21 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
Great Agram wrote:The Libyan civil war from 2011. It should never happened, there were some interest behind the war.

A popular movement to oust a dictator?

Boy yeah, should never of happened. :roll:

Well, the most victim are killed by the NATO bombing, the angloamerican terorrists were mercyless. Gadagi self said that he would reject if they stop to rebel, they didnt today Libya is a islamist country. In tame of gadafi t was a prospeous secular state.

Wyh had NATO bombed Londom when there was the London riots and recognise the learder riot leadrers as the legitimate government of UK? I think we have double criteria standards.
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Postby New Sapienta » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:24 pm

Great Agram wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:A popular movement to oust a dictator?

Boy yeah, should never of happened. :roll:

Well, the most victim are killed by the NATO bombing, the angloamerican terorrists were mercyless. Gadagi self said that he would reject if they stop to rebel, they didnt today Libya is a islamist country. In tame of gadafi t was a prospeous secular state.

Not to offend, but this post is really hard to read.
Source for the bombing please
Angloamerican terroists? What?
Gadaffi said he would reject what?
Libya is an islamist yes, that is lamentable, but the poeple are to blame now instead.

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Postby Vecherd » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:26 pm

The Cola wars.
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Postby Russian Union (Ancient) » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:31 pm

the console wars

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Postby Great Agram » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:39 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
Great Agram wrote:Well, the most victim are killed by the NATO bombing, the angloamerican terorrists were mercyless. Gadagi self said that he would reject if they stop to rebel, they didnt today Libya is a islamist country. In tame of gadafi t was a prospeous secular state.

Not to offend, but this post is really hard to read.
Source for the bombing please
Angloamerican terroists? What?
Gadaffi said he would reject what?
Libya is an islamist yes, that is lamentable, but the poeple are to blame now instead.

The islamists party banned free spech, it legalises sharia law. there are not better than gadafi, in fact they are worser.The only diference is that the islamists are a puppet of the West , Gadafi in compare was a souvernous leader recpected in Third world countries At least Libya had the chance if Saif islam got the government. I think you are not stupid and google it, speak with somebody who is from Libya and hear what they say about the islamist. Stop aksing for a link, it is ignorant.

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