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by Venezio » Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:44 pm

by Nouvelle-Albion » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:48 pm

by Anti-Obamaland » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:15 pm
Icamera wrote:Coming off the heels of the Iraq occupation, I'd say now seems like a good time to discuss the stupidity of war, or rather: wars that were stupid.
I'm taking the easy way out and going with Vietnam. I mean, Iraq was bad enough, but with Vietnam, we're talking about twice the length. Throw in the bureaucracy, government deceptions, (seriously, writing a resolution and then just filling in the blanks with "Gulf of Tonkin"?) and poor military strategy and you've got the perfect recipe for a twenty-year debacle.
And...begin!

by Anti-Obamaland » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:15 pm

by New England and The Maritimes » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:17 pm
Anti-Obamaland wrote:Nouvelle-Albion wrote:
We fought to not pay significantly lower taxes than Britain, over a war fought on our behalf, and we still ended up having to foot the bills for the Revolutionary war. Not arguing with the results, just saying that it was a stupid war.
It was required to throw off the British tyranny that existed. That made it well worth the price.
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by AETEN II » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:30 pm
Shrillland wrote:The Spanish-American War was the stupidest. The casus belli was iffy, the war was basically engineered by Hearst, and it was nothing more that the first American war for Empire.
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by Tergnitz » Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:13 pm

by New England and The Maritimes » Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:18 pm
Venezio wrote:I might also have to say that the Russo-Japanese War was stupid as it was a stalemate between the Russians and Japanese - and thus the Russians disliked what was happening. Throw in WWI and what you get is the Russian Revolution which leads to Communism (IMO, if we didnt have communism, the world would be in much better shape because of the aversion of the cold war and thus even more stupid wars - if you ask me, the cold war made America extremely powerful and thus started the conflicts between it and the middle east)
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by Xsyne » Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:34 am
Chernoslavia wrote:Free Soviets wrote:according to both the law library of congress and wikipedia, both automatics and semi-autos that can be easily converted are outright banned in norway.
Source?

by Ostroeuropa » Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:33 am

by The Archregimancy » Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:51 am

by Kirrig » Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:01 am
The Archregimancy wrote:Having already exhausted 19th- and early 20th-century postcolonial Latin American wars...
How about something mediaevally stupid?
Romanus IV Diogenes' war again Seljuk Sultan Alp Arslan.
The Sultan didn't want a war (he was more worried about the Fatimids), had recently signed a peace treaty with the Byzantines, negotiations were well underway between the two parties to hand the fortress of Manzikert back to the Byzantines in exchange for a fortress Romanus had conquered from the Turks 3 years previously, and there was no immediate serious threat from the Turks against the Byzantines; Romanus also then placed the son of his arch-enemy in charge of a significant component of his army.
Result: Battle of Manikert, the betrayal, deposition and death of Romanus, the Turkish conquest of central Anatolia, and the long-term fatal crippling of the Byzantine Empire - all for an avoidable war of choice that the conflict's winner had not only never wanted, but had been actively trying to avoid.
Romanus had an excuse of sorts; he realised that the Byzantine military system - especially the Thematic system - had been allowed to decay badly over the preceding 40 years, and came to the by no means stupid conclusion that a spell of active military campaigning would help drill the interior Themes into shape while helping to restore the frontier Themes. Even placing a Ducas in charge of part of his army wasn't wholly stupid; in the anachronistic but immortal words of LBJ, it was probably better to have Andronicus Ducas pissing inside the tent than pissing outside it. The basic tactical idea was probably sound; the strategic implementation, however - both in terms of timing and immediate choice of opponent - was disastrously stupid, with appalling short-, medium- and long-term consequences for the Byzantines, the Middle East, and Europe.
Because avoid Manzikert, and you avoid the Crusades.
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by The Drone Empire » Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:13 am
Carloso wrote:The English-Zanzibar War. It lasted 48 minutes and the whole Zanibarian Fleet (3 ships, 1 armed)was destroyed.

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